I Never Knew...

mvwmvw Posts: 1,687
edited November 2009 in The Porch
...soap made you taller. :D
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  • great song, seems to be very under rated. what does this line mean anyway?
  • great song, seems to be very under rated. what does this line mean anyway?

    soap, as in, speaking from atop a soap-box. aka, preaching.
  • Better DanBetter Dan Posts: 5,684
    great song, seems to be very under rated. what does this line mean anyway?

    soap, as in, speaking from atop a soap-box. aka, preaching.


    I always thought it was referring to outrageous infomercial claims. The line before that says that TV is selling us things we don't need.
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  • mvwmvw Posts: 1,687
    great song, seems to be very under rated. what does this line mean anyway?

    soap, as in, speaking from atop a soap-box. aka, preaching.

    I never knew that. Interesting!

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  • DempsDemps Posts: 102
    DS114969 wrote:
    I always thought it was referring to outrageous infomercial claims. The line before that says that TV is selling us things we don't need.

    Yep. The whole verse gives the meaning to the line itself, I think.

    The TV, she talks to me
    Breaking news and building walls
    Selling us, what I dont need
    I never knew soap made you taller

    To me it's basically just a comment on commercialism and marketing of "the good life". More literally, if you see a commercial for soap, those using the right product are going to be depicted as more successful/smarter/funnier/better looking/etc. than those who use the wrong product. Taller would fit into that first list going by social standards of attractiveness. Commercials are made in such a way to make those traits associated with the product being advertised desirable even if they have nothing whatsoever to do with the product itself.
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  • Demps wrote:
    DS114969 wrote:
    I always thought it was referring to outrageous infomercial claims. The line before that says that TV is selling us things we don't need.

    Yep. The whole verse gives the meaning to the line itself, I think.

    The TV, she talks to me
    Breaking news and building walls
    Selling us, what I dont need
    I never knew soap made you taller

    To me it's basically just a comment on commercialism and marketing of "the good life". More literally, if you see a commercial for soap, those using the right product are going to be depicted as more successful/smarter/funnier/better looking/etc. than those who use the wrong product. Taller would fit into that first list going by social standards of attractiveness. Commercials are made in such a way to make those traits associated with the product being advertised desirable even if they have nothing whatsoever to do with the product itself.

    Wow, I feel like I've just been smacked in the head. You guys are probably right with your interpretations. Very cool, and now that I read into it, it does seem fairly straightforward.

    For some reason, since much of the album is political, I just always associated the line with someone preaching down to me from a soapbox (in this case a television commercial). I thought it was cool that Ed would actually use a soapbox metaphor.
  • Better DanBetter Dan Posts: 5,684
    Wow, I feel like I've just been smacked in the head. You guys are probably right with your interpretations. Very cool, and now that I read into it, it does seem fairly straightforward.

    For some reason, since much of the album is political, I just always associated the line with someone preaching down to me from a soapbox (in this case a television commercial). I thought it was cool that Ed would actually use a soapbox metaphor.


    No one knows what Ed really meant by that lyric but Ed. We may all be wrong or you could be right :)
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  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    Demps wrote:
    The TV, she talks to me
    Breaking news and building walls
    Selling us, what I dont need
    I never knew soap made you taller
    I always thought the parallel between Ed's lines and Can't Get No Satisfaction was interesting:

    When I'm watchin' my TV
    and a man comes on to tell me
    how white my shirts can be.
    Well he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke
    the same cigarrettes as me.
    I smile, but who am I kidding...
  • doomponydoompony Posts: 4,497
    ed's a clever man... maybe he meant it BOTH ways!

    :mrgreen:
  • mvw wrote:
    ...soap made you taller. :D

    Every time I hear that line, I think of a post on this forum right after the album was released criticizing that line as an example of lyrical weakness on the album.

    That's it.

    100% of the time I hear the song, I anticipate that line and that post on this forum from 7 years ago.

    I also always think of Ziggy Star liking the grunt in "Got Some" every time I hear it. :)

    I spend too much time lurking on here, perhaps.
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  • Demps wrote:
    Yep. The whole verse gives the meaning to the line itself, I think.

    The TV, she talks to me
    Breaking news and building walls
    Selling us, what I dont need
    I never knew soap made you taller

    To me it's basically just a comment on commercialism and marketing of "the good life". More literally, if you see a commercial for soap, those using the right product are going to be depicted as more successful/smarter/funnier/better looking/etc. than those who use the wrong product. Taller would fit into that first list going by social standards of attractiveness. Commercials are made in such a way to make those traits associated with the product being advertised desirable even if they have nothing whatsoever to do with the product itself.

    BINGO! give this man a prize! :mrgreen:
  • NossieNossie Posts: 1,039

    I also always think of Ziggy Star liking the grunt in "Got Some" every time I hear it. :)


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