cds vs viynl

jamingjamersjamingjamers Posts: 383
edited November 2009 in Other Music
viynl wins hands down :D
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  • wrong forum?
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  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    Vinyl all the way.
    wrong forum?

    I think it's appropriate here..
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  • viva la vinyl
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  • Most people don't understand the differences between CD's and vinyl.

    CD's/digital are better technically. That should be obvious to everyone.

    However, vinyl is often mastered with much greater care and therefore sounds better.

    Nobody can accurately say that one is better than the other. It differs from label to label, album to album, song to song.

    Pearl Jam, for example, makes crappy vinyl. Everything they release on vinyl is a clone of the CD version - a veritable waste of time. It's bascially a scam to squeeze money out of collectors.
  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    Most people don't understand the differences between CD's and vinyl.

    CD's/digital are better technically. That should be obvious to everyone.

    However, vinyl is often mastered with much greater care and therefore sounds better.

    Nobody can accurately say that one is better than the other. It differs from label to label, album to album, song to song.

    Pearl Jam, for example, makes crappy vinyl. Everything they release on vinyl is a clone of the CD version - a veritable waste of time. It's bascially a scam to squeeze money out of collectors.


    you're right about one thing: Technically, a compact disc makes much more sense...but for an audiophile like myself, the true affair lies within the world of vinyl. The warmth, depth, and broad sound of a vinyl is nearly insurmountable in my eyes.

    Ever seen how they make vinyl records? It's a true art form...it takes precise calculations, very special processing, and it's very fascinating. Youtube has a video from the show "How It's Made" that I meant to post here on the forum recently, but it slipped my mind.
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  • yokeyoke Posts: 1,440
    I love vinyl but I can never get it to work properly in my car
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  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    yoke wrote:
    I love vinyl but I can never get it to work properly in my car

    :D
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  • yoke wrote:
    I love vinyl but I can never get it to work properly in my car
    :lol:
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  • Aaron 23Aaron 23 Allen, TX Posts: 543
    Most people don't understand the differences between CD's and vinyl.

    CD's/digital are better technically. That should be obvious to everyone.

    However, vinyl is often mastered with much greater care and therefore sounds better.

    Nobody can accurately say that one is better than the other. It differs from label to label, album to album, song to song.

    Pearl Jam, for example, makes crappy vinyl. Everything they release on vinyl is a clone of the CD version - a veritable waste of time. It's bascially a scam to squeeze money out of collectors.
    hmm...I disagree with the "crappy vinyl" statement...still comes from the analog source, I'm pretty sure. The LATEST vinyls haven't been the greatest IMO when compared to something like Binaural, but still better than the digital copies. I'm not exactly sure if you really understand analog vs digital, but I could be wrong. I figured that the anti aliasing distortion and such in digital would have come up, but so far it seems to be absent in this thread. That said, to each their own. 8-)

    Here's a good wiki on analog sound vs digital:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_rec ... _recording
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Why won't my vinyl fit into my walkman? :?
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  • CobCob Posts: 858
    Most people don't understand the differences between CD's and vinyl.

    CD's/digital are better technically. That should be obvious to everyone.

    However, vinyl is often mastered with much greater care and therefore sounds better.

    Nobody can accurately say that one is better than the other. It differs from label to label, album to album, song to song.

    Pearl Jam, for example, makes crappy vinyl. Everything they release on vinyl is a clone of the CD version - a veritable waste of time. It's bascially a scam to squeeze money out of collectors.

    It's really not that hard to understand, if an album or music is an analog recording, it will sound better on vinyl, if it is a digital recording and then pressed on vinyl, then yes it is a waste of time and money because you are basically listening to the cd on vinyl.

    Any of the older rock music from the 60's to 80's that was recorded analog sounds WAY better on record than some cd, I mean read the label on older Cd's, it TELLS you, these recordings were ANALOG recordings that have been transferred to digital and have flaws. I NEVER buy an album (vinyl) that was recorded digitally or has been digitally remastered, because yes, it is a COMPLETE waste of time and money.
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  • Cob wrote:
    Most people don't understand the differences between CD's and vinyl.

    CD's/digital are better technically. That should be obvious to everyone.

    However, vinyl is often mastered with much greater care and therefore sounds better.

    Nobody can accurately say that one is better than the other. It differs from label to label, album to album, song to song.

    Pearl Jam, for example, makes crappy vinyl. Everything they release on vinyl is a clone of the CD version - a veritable waste of time. It's bascially a scam to squeeze money out of collectors.

    It's really not that hard to understand, if an album or music is an analog recording, it will sound better on vinyl, if it is a digital recording and then pressed on vinyl, then yes it is a waste of time and money because you are basically listening to the cd on vinyl.

    Any of the older rock music from the 60's to 80's that was recorded analog sounds WAY better on record than some cd, I mean read the label on older Cd's, it TELLS you, these recordings were ANALOG recordings that have been transferred to digital and have flaws. I NEVER buy an album (vinyl) that was recorded digitally or has been digitally remastered, because yes, it is a COMPLETE waste of time and money.

    Okay, so I have Soundgarden's Down on the Upside on both Vinyl and CD. How do I tell if it was an analog or digital recording?

    Also, on an unrelated note, how do you tell if your needle is damaged?
  • Why won't my vinyl fit into my walkman? :?
    u have to buy the new one..walkbackman
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Why won't my vinyl fit into my walkman? :?
    u have to buy the new one..walkbackman

    Or the vinylman!
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  • I grew up on vinyl and never understood why others like the "warmth and depth" of the skips, pops and crackles. Years ago I bought Styx Cornerstone and it wasn't until I acquired the CD that I realized they said "Don't look now, but here come the eightees!" at the beginning of Borrowed Time. My record always skipped right over it. The only thing I miss is looking at the album artwork and record sleeves. Viva la CDs.
  • CobCob Posts: 858
    [/quote]

    Okay, so I have Soundgarden's Down on the Upside on both Vinyl and CD. How do I tell if it was an analog or digital recording?

    Also, on an unrelated note, how do you tell if your needle is damaged?[/quote]

    Well according to this old article, Soundgarden never recorded anything digital, also about the needle, I would have someone look at it, or if all your records sound bad, that's usually a sign that it is bad.
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  • Cob wrote:
    Well according to this old article, Soundgarden never recorded anything digital, also about the needle, I would have someone look at it, or if all your records sound bad, that's usually a sign that it is bad.

    My records don't sound bad, but I noticed that once it gets towards the inner track on the record it starts to seem to introduce static (for lack of a better term). It's only noticeable with certain highs, mostly when someone is singing. I can hear it a lot on the Backspacer album and I hear it to a certain extent on Ultramega OK and Down on the Upside. It's a new cartridge but the reason I wonder if it might be damaged is when I was trying to play a 45 it was popped off by the torque or something and bounced off the platter mat a bit. Unfortunately I didn't have my record player long enough to be able to notice if what I am hearing now was their prior to that bounce. Other than those inner tracks, the rest sounds pretty fucking awesome though which makes me wonder if that is just a common occurrence with vinyl or if maybe I have my overhang off a bit.

    Who looks at this stuff anymore if I do want to take it in?
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