Halloween: The longest and best PJ show?
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Well, going in, many of us knew the 7/11/03 Mansfield show was the longest. Twofeetthick.com reports the show as running 50 minutes for the acoustic set and 165 minutes for the main show. That's 215 minutes.
The Halloween show began at 8:58 and ended at 12:35. That's 217 minutes.
Will we definitively know for sure which is the longest? What if the Twofeetthick.com times are close estimates? I know some will say, let's wait for the boots and add up the times, but those boots are slightly edited (encore breaks sometimes fade in). I'm sure many are curious to know what the longest one is.
One thing's for sure: The band's never played that long straight through, and it's a testament to their stamina and playing ability and agility. I don't know how they can manage to perform such aggressive songs — well, many, but not all — and the number of songs they reeled off. I'm exhausted as all hell after being there for all four. It was a challenge the final three shows to get my body in gear. Once they got going each night, I revved myself up like a beast. Best. Band. Ever.
By the time PJ played the Spectrum in '03 (my third show), I was able to easily say that was the best. Then came the MSG shows that year, Reading, Pa., in '04, the three '06 shows I've gone to and the Camden shows last year. It became hard early on in that string of shows to pick which was the best overall experience (tailgate, Wishlist Foundation meet-up, meeting fans from around the globe, setlist, performance, crowd). I knew we were expecting something big, and we got it. I could tell early on that the Halloween show was going to be the best of the 18 I've seen, and they made it so by miles and miles. I have no reservations in calling that the best PJ show, at least from what I've seen. It might be the best overall in terms of what they pulled off — capping the greatest four-show run in their history.
The Halloween show began at 8:58 and ended at 12:35. That's 217 minutes.
Will we definitively know for sure which is the longest? What if the Twofeetthick.com times are close estimates? I know some will say, let's wait for the boots and add up the times, but those boots are slightly edited (encore breaks sometimes fade in). I'm sure many are curious to know what the longest one is.
One thing's for sure: The band's never played that long straight through, and it's a testament to their stamina and playing ability and agility. I don't know how they can manage to perform such aggressive songs — well, many, but not all — and the number of songs they reeled off. I'm exhausted as all hell after being there for all four. It was a challenge the final three shows to get my body in gear. Once they got going each night, I revved myself up like a beast. Best. Band. Ever.
By the time PJ played the Spectrum in '03 (my third show), I was able to easily say that was the best. Then came the MSG shows that year, Reading, Pa., in '04, the three '06 shows I've gone to and the Camden shows last year. It became hard early on in that string of shows to pick which was the best overall experience (tailgate, Wishlist Foundation meet-up, meeting fans from around the globe, setlist, performance, crowd). I knew we were expecting something big, and we got it. I could tell early on that the Halloween show was going to be the best of the 18 I've seen, and they made it so by miles and miles. I have no reservations in calling that the best PJ show, at least from what I've seen. It might be the best overall in terms of what they pulled off — capping the greatest four-show run in their history.
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I'm certain State College is short than Mansfield 3 of '03. Mansfield broke the State College record, which had broken 7/11/95.
Thanks for posting. I'm surprised no one else has posted. I thought it'd be a great topic of discussion — especially for those who were there. I mean, it's a great honor to be at the longest PJ show in history, right?
wasn't Seattle 11/6/2000 was longer than Soldier Field?
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Don't get me wrong, Halloween was increadable ie crown of thorns and bugs. But I feel that Friday's show was just Epic & magical!
I give PJ a lot of credit not only for the length of time they played on Sat. but the fact that they were able to do that after 3 previous insaine shows. Props to them!!
You know, you may very well be right about that one. Twofeetthick.com reports Soldier Field to have gone 155 minutes but has nothing for that Seattle show.
Anyone else care to chime in? I'd love to see a definitive list of the five or 10 longest shows.
State college i believe was 3 hrs 22 min... so 202 minutes
I would call Saturday the longest show ever without a doubt...
FRIDAY and SATURDAY together was just unreal... 75 songs almost i think between the 2... stuff theyve never played before but at the same time you got to feel the energy of the room for ALIVE and BABA and RITFW
i think the setlists were such a PERFECT Mix of RARE and HITS... that was my 29th PJ show... i love that kind of mix...
Band was just amazing they were tryin so hard to be so Good and they were SUCCESSFUL!
Well seattle 2000 was 3 Cds... right?? so that means it was atleast 160 minutes or they would have been able to fit it on 2, right?
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2003 Tour- Albany 4/29 Boston 7/2,7/3,7/11 Philadelphia 7/5,7/6 MSG 7/8,7/9
2004 Tour- Boston 9/28,9/29
2006 Tour- Albany 5/12 Hartford 5/13 Boston 5/24,5/25
2008 Tour- MSG 6/24,6/25 Hartford 6/27 Boston 6/28,6/30 Eddie- Boston 8/1
2009 Tour- Eddie- Albany 6/9 Philly Spectrum- 10/30, 10/31
2010 Tour- Hartford 5/15 MSG 5/20,5/21
2011 Tour- Eddie- Hartford 6/18
2013 Tour- Worcester,MA 10/15,10/16 Hartford 10/25
2016 Tour- MSG 5/1,5/2 FENWAY 8/5,8/7
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it's really interesting to me, b/c i think it all comes down to personal perspective, and also where you are at any given show. i thought both shows were awesome, but i found the crowd far better saturday in comparison to friday. i also was row 8 on saturday and row 27 on friday.
and the 10.31 show was AMAZING...for all the reasons listed, and then some. to imagine this band, their 9th album, all in their mid-40s....and they just seemingly continue to grow musically, their live performances continually amazing....and the stamina. well....*ahem*.....;) just astounding!
Let's just breathe...
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haha...so then the "best" show would be?????
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btw, I consider mansfield out of the running.
it is two seperate sets. By this logic you could say that the three mansfield nights are one show.
also, under this criteria, the gorge 05 show now has to be considered in the running as that was an opening set and a primary set. plus dirty frank elevates it into an epic show.
discuss.
Well, you could consider the four Spectrum shows one, too, considering there was a repeat at Mansfield. PJ was there to close the Spectrum — not exactly perform The Experiment No. 2 — and yes, there were many more repeats. But this was a straight-up four-out-of-five-night stand, not interrupted by two Camden and two MSG shows.
Yes, the 2005 Gorge is superlong and amazing, at 35 songs, and that's a great show you introduced into the mix (other than the too-many Petty calls — the minor thing that irritates me). I don't recall anyone, though, saying that was the longest — the one that beat Mansfield. But then again, you raise the other point I brought up about the longest straight-shot show: The one played straight through. Perhaps we might wind up with one show lasting the most minutes straight through without interruption, and the other lasting the longest overall.
It will be interesting to find out. Thanks for chiming in.
Again, this is just the boots, but when I sort using Windows Media Player, State College falls under the 190 minutes category and the 2005 Gorge show, 170 minutes. Like I had mentioned before in the original post, these boots are slightly edited for CD space reasons — and then consider the fact that different outfits mass-produced the mp3s and CDs.
It's going to take a lot to figure this out. "We're going to keep it interesting," as Eddie said during the Spectrum run about the band's inability to logistically play every song.
It's all good fun....
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Absolutely!
1. Buffalo 03
2. MSG 1 - 2003
3. Randall's Island 9/26/96
4. Philly 10/30/09
5. Philly 10/31/09
6. MSG 9/11/98
Sometimes things outside of just the music and setlist make a great show. At Buffalo, we were able to park right across the street from the venue. We sat outside in 40 degree weather for 6 hours to get our tickets (that's when it was based on seniority by blocks) and we talked to some awesome people. We got 2nd row, right in between Ed and Stone. The crowd was awesome. The setlist was awesome. The Band was awesome. Eddie gave my husband his pick right after Betterman!!!! I bought an awesome orange PJ hoody. They did People have the Power which was just beautiful (and we had even heard it at Albany earlier in the week and it was still amazing). We didn't have to wait to leave because of our awesome parking spot. Everything about Buffalo was perfect, and so even though it wasn't the longest show and some setlists on paper might look better, it really was the best PJ show I've ever gone to and I still get chills listening to the boot. That being said, the last two philly shows were both incredible. But I'll give the lead to the 30th because of the setlist. Every song I wanted to hear for the most part was played, and the show had this vibe with these airy/flighty tunes (In My Tree, Given to Fly, MFC, In Hiding, etc.). The 31st was more about what are they going to play and the anticipation. The 30th was more about the experience itself, which to me is more enjoyable.
But to each their own
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2005- 9/15, 9/16
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2009- 10/30, 10/31
2010- 5/10, 5/21
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Agreed, Mansfield was never in the running. Ed didn't even mention it on night 4, he mentioned State College. Doesn't matter to me, I was at Philly 4, Mansfield 3, State College, Buffalo, The Gorge. I would say I have definitely been to their longest show!
I agree with a previous poster though, State College was better. It wasn't scripted. Philly 4 felt forced. We all knew it was going to be long. Ed even complained about playing so long. State College just happened.
There were 101 (i think) different songs played over 4 nights in Philly.
There were 92 (i think) different songs played over 3 nights in Mansfield. There were 2 less albums, but they also played 11 or so covers.
And I'm not really sure where I'm going with this. It is fun to compare these two legendary events, though.
Agreed. SF3 2006 was one of the best I have witnessed and it came in just under 2 hours.
I agree but there is alot more than just length goin for this show...
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2006 Tour- Albany 5/12 Hartford 5/13 Boston 5/24,5/25
2008 Tour- MSG 6/24,6/25 Hartford 6/27 Boston 6/28,6/30 Eddie- Boston 8/1
2009 Tour- Eddie- Albany 6/9 Philly Spectrum- 10/30, 10/31
2010 Tour- Hartford 5/15 MSG 5/20,5/21
2011 Tour- Eddie- Hartford 6/18
2013 Tour- Worcester,MA 10/15,10/16 Hartford 10/25
2016 Tour- MSG 5/1,5/2 FENWAY 8/5,8/7
2018 Tour- Fenway 9/2, 9/4 (My 40th show)!
i feel so privelaged to say i was at both.. think the major diff was they ended up repeating a bunch the last 2 philly shows where as in Mansfield... I believe Yellow Ledbetter was only repeat... gotta love them repeating the 1 note from Birmingham! hahahaha
2000 Tour- Saratoga 8/27 Boston 8/29, 8/30
2003 Tour- Albany 4/29 Boston 7/2,7/3,7/11 Philadelphia 7/5,7/6 MSG 7/8,7/9
2004 Tour- Boston 9/28,9/29
2006 Tour- Albany 5/12 Hartford 5/13 Boston 5/24,5/25
2008 Tour- MSG 6/24,6/25 Hartford 6/27 Boston 6/28,6/30 Eddie- Boston 8/1
2009 Tour- Eddie- Albany 6/9 Philly Spectrum- 10/30, 10/31
2010 Tour- Hartford 5/15 MSG 5/20,5/21
2011 Tour- Eddie- Hartford 6/18
2013 Tour- Worcester,MA 10/15,10/16 Hartford 10/25
2016 Tour- MSG 5/1,5/2 FENWAY 8/5,8/7
2018 Tour- Fenway 9/2, 9/4 (My 40th show)!