Masons - any here?

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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    shiningstar wrote:
    my father and brother are masons and they don't talk about it

    it's not a total religious thing that's for sure, and the nonsense about it being about coffins knives and nooses IS total nonsense

    having said all that i would love to know more/all...but if my brother/father ain't talking, then who is :shock:

    there's a secret handshake too...but that's all i know...

    Well that shows how little you know about it. The initiation ritual for the first degree involves exposing the left breast, rolling up a trouser leg, being blindfolded with a noose around your neck and having a dagger held to your chest. During this, you swear that you won't divulge any of their secrets, or you face having your tongue ripped out, your throat slit and being disembowled. This is well established stuff and discussed in this video by a Mason on the BBC's Heaven and Earth show:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9ZZsVNnSDE
    redrock wrote:
    Face... you have a really strange and distorted idea of what freemasonery is - don't believe everything that is written in Wikipedia!

    Firstly I haven't just read the Wiki page, I've read a lot of stuff, wathced videos with former Masons, spoken to my friends who are Masons, and my dad knows a lot about it from a guy who used to try to sign him up at every given opportunity!

    The religious aspect is totally central to Freemasonry. You have to believe in a higher being in order to become a Mason. So you have to be religious to partake. If you look up the definition of the word 'religion', like I said before, Freemasonry ticks all the boxes. They may not choose to see it that way, but by naming 'god' as the Great Architect Of The Universe, they are giving a unique spin on the idea of a higher power - which is what all religions do. By eschewing the traditional names for religious 'gods' and naming the higher power as The Great Architect Of The Universe, they are essentially implying that this higher being transcends other traditional ideas of religion, thus making it an alternative religion in itself. Like I said, they may not see it is a religion themselves, but their behaviour, practices and beliefs fulfill every criteria of what a religion is.
    redrock wrote:
    There is a lot of 'urban legends' surrounding the masons - the truth is very different.

    Or maybe a lot of it is true and people just use the 'it's not a secret society' line to try and deflect attention away from what they are doing.
  • tvismyfriend
    tvismyfriend Posts: 2,118
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    tvismyfriend wrote:

    so youre to blame for steve guttenberg. :lol::lol:

    Never heard of him, read his bio on wiki and do not get it lol
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBav72i7I3s[/quote]

    Still don't get the Steve Guttenberg reference?[/quote]
    One of the lyrics to the stone cutters song is " Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star" and you said jokingly that you're a stone cutter. So someone else jokingly blamed you for making Guttenberg popular.

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