56 songs on Halloween? My math says they'll be off by 1:30AM

CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
edited October 2009 in Given To Fly (live)
According to soop's thread, there are 146 songs in PJ's most likely catalog, excluding very rare covers, and some other unlikely songs. viewtopic.php?f=5&t=116112

Average show length in Philly is 30 songs. By the time they complete Friday night, they will have performed about 90 songs total (with a couple of repeats, but let's keep it simple and pretend they are all fresh songs).

That leaves 56 to be performed on Saturday night.



According to ML19768's thread about show length, it took PJ 2.5 hours to perform 30 songs (or 31 songs, depending on which show). viewtopic.php?f=5&t=116355

That makes each song an average of 5 minutes long including breaks and all.



With the 5 minute average times 56 songs likely to be remaining after Friday, that leaves about 4 Hours and 40 Minutes of music, in order to literally perform all songs.

If the showtime begins at 9PM, then with this math, they will get off the stage at about 1:30AM if they perform all of their songs.

:geek:

(and being Daylight Savings Time, if they reach 2am, they really only played until 1am)
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  • Dead Man WalkingDead Man Walking Toronto-ish Posts: 2,762
    No one has thrown out the "Acoustic Pre-Set" possibility...if they play 30 Friday and end up with 45 or so left, It's very possible they come out and do a 12 song acoustic pre-set before Bad Religion then come out for the main show and do 33 songs...

    forget about going till 1:30, that will never happen. 12 at the absolute latest. I would be less surprised if they started earlier then went later...
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    and being Daylight Savings Time, if they reach 2am, they really only played until 1am





    however, if they did reach 2am, they still played the hour, we just get the hour back for more drinking or sleep...so still win-win. and hell, holy boredom at work batman! :lol:


    does make you wonder tho - those poor security guards. IF these rumors prove true and they are to work until 2 am.....does that mean really: reach 2 am...turn back clock to 1....and they still have another hour to work? that would suck. tho i believe the clocks actually turn 2:01 am? idk. either way, i do really think we are all in for a very long and fantastic night!
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  • drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742
    No one has thrown out the "Acoustic Pre-Set" possibility...if they play 30 Friday and end up with 45 or so left, It's very possible they come out and do a 12 song acoustic pre-set before Bad Religion then come out for the main show and do 33 songs...

    forget about going till 1:30, that will never happen. 12 at the absolute latest. I would be less surprised if they started earlier then went later...
    i THINK since they have a 2AM curfew they'd go later rather than earlier. Now that might mean they come on at 7:30 do a small set, have BR come on at say 9, then PJ from 10:15-12:30 or something... I have no clue.

    At least this time its EV building the hype for the show and not 100% us :)
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    drsluggo wrote:
    i THINK since they have a 2AM curfew they'd go later rather than earlier. Now that might mean they come on at 7:30 do a small set, have BR come on at say 9, then PJ from 10:15-12:30 or something... I have no clue.

    At least this time its EV building the hype for the show and not 100% us :)


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  • Dead Man WalkingDead Man Walking Toronto-ish Posts: 2,762
    I don't know. usually when a place is booked till 2am it's usually for a few hours of after party and unfortunately, not playing.

    PROVE ME WRONG PEARL JAM, PROVE...ME...WRONG.
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    drsluggo wrote:
    No one has thrown out the "Acoustic Pre-Set" possibility...if they play 30 Friday and end up with 45 or so left, It's very possible they come out and do a 12 song acoustic pre-set before Bad Religion then come out for the main show and do 33 songs...

    forget about going till 1:30, that will never happen. 12 at the absolute latest. I would be less surprised if they started earlier then went later...
    i THINK since they have a 2AM curfew they'd go later rather than earlier. Now that might mean they come on at 7:30 do a small set, have BR come on at say 9, then PJ from 10:15-12:30 or something... I have no clue.

    At least this time its EV building the hype for the show and not 100% us :)


    Exactly. EV is building the hype and since the World Series is next door, PJ will be unlikely to screw up traffic even more by playing an unannounced pre-set of a large quantity of songs.
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    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    I don't know. usually when a place is booked till 2am it's usually for a few hours of after party and unfortunately, not playing.

    PROVE ME WRONG PEARL JAM, PROVE...ME...WRONG.


    That actually depends.

    I used to help manage large arena concerts for a number of years (about 300 big shows). Crowd security usually clears out the venue and is probably gone within 45 minutes of the show ending. There's a few guards around backstage, then the promoter's backstage security (non-venue) who handle the corridor, plus the stagehand, loaders, promoter's staff and tour staff who often work until 1:30am - 2:00am on an average arena show (that ends at 11am).

    If people are quoting stagehands or backstage security, then you are right.

    If people are quoting security who handle crowd control, then this is an indication of how long the crowd will be in the building.

    ...and with EV saying 2am... I believe they will play very close to that.
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    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
    *Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
  • drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742
    CJMST3K wrote:
    That actually depends.
    Everytime I read your posts I get halfway through and then I fine myself hypnotized by the picture of the Hoff staring into my soul...
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    btw - don't forget the *unknown* factor....possible/probable? special guests!
    tis a momentous occasion, anything is possible!
    8-)
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    drsluggo wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    That actually depends.
    Everytime I read your posts I get halfway through and then I fine myself hypnotized by the picture of the Hoff staring into my soul...


    Evil Hoff is the one staring into your soul. If my regular Hoff is staring at you, he's hungry for what you're eating...

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    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
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  • drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742
    btw - don't forget the *unknown* factor....possible/probable? special guests!
    tis a momentous occasion, anything is possible!
    8-)
    Yeah - that might actually derail the 'play everything we know' chance... unless they are actually going to go that late. Who knows - I just dont know how they can last that long, but they do have a nice break afterwards.
  • wow you guys are seriously getting way too into this playing every song thing.
    Stop freaking out and analyzing the number of songs/time and just enjoy the show on saturday
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    wow you guys are seriously getting way too into this playing every song thing.
    Stop freaking out and analyzing the number of songs/time and just enjoy the show on saturday


    I'm enjoying speculating! If they end at midnight, I'll still be thrilled.
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    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
    *Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    Stone has Swine Flu. The Fri and Sat shows have been cancelled.















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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Stone has Swine Flu. The Fri and Sat shows have been cancelled.

    (ducks to avoid being hit in head by random projectiles)


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    ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
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    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
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  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    Do you actually believe everything Ed says on the stage?...If you do?...Well, I got a bridge in Alton,Il for sale...At a reasonable price..

    I hope pearl jam does play every track in their catalog..But, I just don't see it happening...Plus, playing to 2am..I don't see this happening...I could be wrong..But, if I was a betting man...I would bet against it..
  • ZosoZoso Posts: 6,425
    if they from 8:50 till midnight that's still around 40 songs.. so either way we're in for a treat. We know there will be more than 30 songs so bring it on!
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  • KingJeremyDKingJeremyD Posts: 2,313
    Zoso wrote:
    if they from 8:50 till midnight that's still around 40 songs.. so either way we're in for a treat. We know there will be more than 30 songs so bring it on!


    Hi Zoso,

    I could see them playing from 8:50 until midnight...Which is around 3hrs plus maybe ten mins or so..But, I am willing to bet they don't go over 3hrs and a half...Ed says things on that the fans want to hear...Most of the time it doesn't happen...
  • whoooooa.... too much time on your hands. get a hobby, haha, sorry.
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    whoooooa.... too much time on your hands. get a hobby, haha, sorry.

    this IS my hobby!

    btw there were some posts from people saying friends of staff were on schedule until 3am... then the twitter from the show where ed said 2am... so i think PJ is planning to try to do this. Whether it happens, we'll see, but it seems clear to me the intent is there.
    ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you. :)
    *NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
    *MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
    *Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
    *Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
    *Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
    *VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
    *EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
    *Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
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