Who do you think Ed and the guys are rooting for in the WS?

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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,368
    jimed14 wrote:
    BF25394 wrote:
    and the Phillies and Angels organization are liberal? Please? Baseball teams are like corporations, looking to make money. That is all of them. The Phillies and Angels are hardly running a co-op.

    The Phillies and Angels have their limits. The Yankees are Standard Oil. They are Microsoft. Their 2009 payroll is more than twice that of 22 major-league teams. 2009 payrolls:

    Yankees: $201.4 million
    Angels: $113.7 million
    Phillies: $113.0 million

    Anyway, no one spent more freely than the "conservative" George W. Bush. He was left a surplus by the Democrat who preceded him, and handed over a $1.2 trillion deficit and a cratering economy to the Democrat who succeeded him. Two wars, Medicare Part D, TARP, tax cuts for the rich. That's Bush's free-spending legacy.

    It's just amazing to see those numbers ... and yeah, the Red Sox were at $121M ... (Mets I think were 2nd with $149M)

    The Yankees are just playing on a whole different level than anyone else.

    Team 2009 payroll
    New York Yankees $201,449,189
    New York Mets $149,373,987
    Chicago Cubs $134,809,000
    Boston Red Sox $121,745,999
    Detroit Tigers $115,085,145
    Los Angeles Angels $113,709,00
    Philadelphia Phillies $113,004,046
    Houston Astros $102,996,414
    Los Angeles Dodgers $100,414,592
    Seattle Mariners $98,904,166
    Atlanta Braves $96,726,166
    Chicago White Sox $96,068,500
    San Francisco Giants $82,616,450
    Cleveland Indians $81,579,166
    Toronto Blue Jays $80,538,300
    Milwaukee Brewers $80,182,502
    St. Louis Cardinals $77,605,109
    Colorado Rockies $75,201,000
    Cincinnati Reds $73,558,500
    Arizona Diamondbacks $73,516,666
    Kansas City Royals $70,519,333
    Texas Rangers $68,178,798
    Baltimore Orioles $67,101,666
    Minnesota Twins $65,299,266
    Tampa Bay Rays $63,313,034
    Oakland Athletics $62,310,000
    Washington Nationals $60,328,000
    Pittsburgh Pirates $48,693,000
    San Diego Padres $43,734,200
    Florida Marlins $36,834,000

    Source: USA Today
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  • Dirtie_FrankDirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    Top 10 MLB Revenues (MILL):
    264 New York Yankees
    201 Boston Red Sox
    180 New York Mets
    173 Seattle Mariners
    170 Chicago Cubs
    167 Philadelphia Phillies
    166 Los Angeles Dodgers
    162 Atlanta Braves
    159 San Francisco Giants
    155 Houston Astros

    Bottom 5 MLB Revenues:
    107 Toronto Blue Jays
    104 Kansas City Royals
    103 Florida Marlins
    102 Minnesota Twins
    80 Washington Nationals

    % or Revenue spent on Payroll
    79% Washington Nationals
    79% Chicago White Sox
    74% New York Yankees
    70% Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
    67% Toronto Blue Jays
    66% Detroit Tigers
    62% Minnesota Twins
    60% Houston Astros
    60% Boston Red Sox
    59% Los Angeles Dodgers
    59% St Louis Cardinals
    57% San Francisco Giants
    56% New York Mets
    56% Atlanta Braves
    55% Chicago Cubs
    53% Oakland Athletics
    53% Philadelphia Phillies
    52% Milwaukee Brewers
    51% Seattle Mariners
    49% Baltimore Orioles
    48% Cincinnati Reds
    48% Texas Rangers
    47% San Diego Padres
    45% Kansas City Royals
    44% Arizona Diamondbacks
    43% Pittsburgh Pirates
    40% Cleveland Indians
    32% Tampa Bay Devil Rays
    31% Colorado Rockies
    15% Florida Marlins


    So the Yankees put their money back into the team so what.
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,368
    I don't think I have questioned the Yankees' right to spend big dollars on payroll. You're missing the point. Someone asked who PJ would root for. I said they would not root for the Yankees because the Yankees are the most conservative and Republican of franchises. Someone questioned that premise. I explained why, including citing unfettered big business as an example of a conservative value.

    Having said that, why might it be a bad thing in this instance for one team to so far outspend everyone else? Because the entire game hinges on there being some semblance of competitive integrity-- that the teams are on a level playing field. Thankfully, baseball is a quirky enough game where sky-high payrolls don't guarantee you championships. The Yankees have always been the richest team. In the old days, the Philadelphia/Kansas City Athletics were essentially farm teams for the Yankees, who would buy their best players when the A's could no longer afford them. So it's not anything new. It's not a coincidence that the Yankees won 26 World Series in a 78-year span and were the richest team the entire time. That's the system. They're using it to their advantage. Bully for them. But they are definitely a white-collar, conservative, "Republican" operation.
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  • Mawky1103Mawky1103 Posts: 310
    I've been a die hard Yankee Fan my entire life, and I'm as liberal as you can get. Also fucking love Pearl Jam...just putting my two sense in. Also, Yanks aren't even there yet...but will be come Saturday night.
  • ok ok lemme just end this whole yanks/conservative crap...mainly the facial hair stuff...that's all Steinbrenner...he's conservative, he owns the team and therefore that influences their business practices...prior to Steinbrenner, the team did allow long hair and beards...i mean look at Thermon Munson (sorry for spelling) during the pre-steinbrenner days

    thurman_munson_autograph.jpg

    it even looked more mangled than that at times...if you have the YES Network, watch Yankeeography: Thermon Munson they discuss just that

    all the conservatism on the team is about 90% Steinbrenner. he even shows Fox News Network commercials...but really that' as bad as it is...then it's probably about 7% Cashman and 3% other if you look at the players, they are probably mostly liberal. and besides, politics is no reason to choose a sports team and Eddie knows that.

    EDIT: oh and one other thing, probably every sports team owner is conservative like how Bush owned The Rangers. genrally the more wealthy you are the higher the chances of you being conservative, not that that means you really are, but among aristocrats like CEO's and Big Business owners (remember sports is a big business) you are probably conservative
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,368
    Professional baseball players are overwhelmingly Republican.

    The entire Yankee "aura" is conservative (not the stripper Aura that Curt Schilling talked about-- she's liberal). Traditional, staid, conforming, rich. I'm not making a value judgment here. That's how they present themselves. The Mets have always been the blue-collar team with the blue-collar fans (maybe this will change now that they have an expensive new ballpark).
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,368
    Mark Teixeira summed up the synergy between the Yankees and Republican/conservative values with this quote after last night's game: "To the rich go the spoils." Note that he didn't say, "To the victor go the spoils."
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
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  • PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,799
    Solat13 wrote:

    sweet pic Joe, I heard Ed was there on Sunday, along with Pat the bat being back in town. All that manly man in one room would just be too much for me. :lol:
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    BF25394 wrote:
    Professional baseball players are overwhelmingly Republican.

    The entire Yankee "aura" is conservative (not the stripper Aura that Curt Schilling talked about-- she's liberal). Traditional, staid, conforming, rich. I'm not making a value judgment here. That's how they present themselves. The Mets have always been the blue-collar team with the blue-collar fans (maybe this will change now that they have an expensive new ballpark).
    the day the mets change that is the day I burn my mets gear

    Ed roots for whoever has a player the loves pearl jam or a team that will give him on the field acess. You really think if ed was a true cubs fan he would take bp at the mets stadium. That be like me taking bp at yankee stadium or in philly.
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  • PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,799
    metsfan wrote:
    BF25394 wrote:
    Professional baseball players are overwhelmingly Republican.

    The entire Yankee "aura" is conservative (not the stripper Aura that Curt Schilling talked about-- she's liberal). Traditional, staid, conforming, rich. I'm not making a value judgment here. That's how they present themselves. The Mets have always been the blue-collar team with the blue-collar fans (maybe this will change now that they have an expensive new ballpark).
    the day the mets change that is the day I burn my mets gear

    Ed roots for whoever has a player the loves pearl jam or a team that will give him on the field acess. You really think if ed was a true cubs fan he would take bp at the mets stadium. That be like me taking bp at yankee stadium or in philly.

    I know for a fact he's taken some swings at the old Vet n Philly. I think he's a baseball fan, hell, if I had the opportunity, I would LOVE to grab a bat and take some pitches in any stadium in this country - and I am woman. I'd love to be able to visit ANY park. It's the love of the game, doesn't make you any less a fan of your true team.
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