and the Phillies and Angels organization are liberal? Please? Baseball teams are like corporations, looking to make money. That is all of them. The Phillies and Angels are hardly running a co-op.
The Phillies and Angels have their limits. The Yankees are Standard Oil. They are Microsoft. Their 2009 payroll is more than twice that of 22 major-league teams. 2009 payrolls:
Yankees: $201.4 million
Angels: $113.7 million
Phillies: $113.0 million
Anyway, no one spent more freely than the "conservative" George W. Bush. He was left a surplus by the Democrat who preceded him, and handed over a $1.2 trillion deficit and a cratering economy to the Democrat who succeeded him. Two wars, Medicare Part D, TARP, tax cuts for the rich. That's Bush's free-spending legacy.
It's just amazing to see those numbers ... and yeah, the Red Sox were at $121M ... (Mets I think were 2nd with $149M)
The Yankees are just playing on a whole different level than anyone else.
Team 2009 payroll
New York Yankees $201,449,189
New York Mets $149,373,987
Chicago Cubs $134,809,000
Boston Red Sox $121,745,999
Detroit Tigers $115,085,145
Los Angeles Angels $113,709,00
Philadelphia Phillies $113,004,046
Houston Astros $102,996,414
Los Angeles Dodgers $100,414,592
Seattle Mariners $98,904,166
Atlanta Braves $96,726,166
Chicago White Sox $96,068,500
San Francisco Giants $82,616,450
Cleveland Indians $81,579,166
Toronto Blue Jays $80,538,300
Milwaukee Brewers $80,182,502
St. Louis Cardinals $77,605,109
Colorado Rockies $75,201,000
Cincinnati Reds $73,558,500
Arizona Diamondbacks $73,516,666
Kansas City Royals $70,519,333
Texas Rangers $68,178,798
Baltimore Orioles $67,101,666
Minnesota Twins $65,299,266
Tampa Bay Rays $63,313,034
Oakland Athletics $62,310,000
Washington Nationals $60,328,000
Pittsburgh Pirates $48,693,000
San Diego Padres $43,734,200
Florida Marlins $36,834,000
Top 10 MLB Revenues (MILL):
264 New York Yankees
201 Boston Red Sox
180 New York Mets
173 Seattle Mariners
170 Chicago Cubs
167 Philadelphia Phillies
166 Los Angeles Dodgers
162 Atlanta Braves
159 San Francisco Giants
155 Houston Astros
Bottom 5 MLB Revenues:
107 Toronto Blue Jays
104 Kansas City Royals
103 Florida Marlins
102 Minnesota Twins
80 Washington Nationals
% or Revenue spent on Payroll
79% Washington Nationals
79% Chicago White Sox
74% New York Yankees
70% Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
67% Toronto Blue Jays
66% Detroit Tigers
62% Minnesota Twins
60% Houston Astros
60% Boston Red Sox
59% Los Angeles Dodgers
59% St Louis Cardinals
57% San Francisco Giants
56% New York Mets
56% Atlanta Braves
55% Chicago Cubs
53% Oakland Athletics
53% Philadelphia Phillies
52% Milwaukee Brewers
51% Seattle Mariners
49% Baltimore Orioles
48% Cincinnati Reds
48% Texas Rangers
47% San Diego Padres
45% Kansas City Royals
44% Arizona Diamondbacks
43% Pittsburgh Pirates
40% Cleveland Indians
32% Tampa Bay Devil Rays
31% Colorado Rockies
15% Florida Marlins
So the Yankees put their money back into the team so what.
96 Randall's Island II
98 CAA
00 Virginia Beach;Camden I; Jones Beach III
05 Borgata Night I; Wachovia Center
06 Letterman Show; Webcast (guy in blue shirt), Camden I; DC
08 Camden I; Camden II; DC
09 Phillie III
10 MSG II
13 Wrigley Field
16 Phillie II
I don't think I have questioned the Yankees' right to spend big dollars on payroll. You're missing the point. Someone asked who PJ would root for. I said they would not root for the Yankees because the Yankees are the most conservative and Republican of franchises. Someone questioned that premise. I explained why, including citing unfettered big business as an example of a conservative value.
Having said that, why might it be a bad thing in this instance for one team to so far outspend everyone else? Because the entire game hinges on there being some semblance of competitive integrity-- that the teams are on a level playing field. Thankfully, baseball is a quirky enough game where sky-high payrolls don't guarantee you championships. The Yankees have always been the richest team. In the old days, the Philadelphia/Kansas City Athletics were essentially farm teams for the Yankees, who would buy their best players when the A's could no longer afford them. So it's not anything new. It's not a coincidence that the Yankees won 26 World Series in a 78-year span and were the richest team the entire time. That's the system. They're using it to their advantage. Bully for them. But they are definitely a white-collar, conservative, "Republican" operation.
I've been a die hard Yankee Fan my entire life, and I'm as liberal as you can get. Also fucking love Pearl Jam...just putting my two sense in. Also, Yanks aren't even there yet...but will be come Saturday night.
ok ok lemme just end this whole yanks/conservative crap...mainly the facial hair stuff...that's all Steinbrenner...he's conservative, he owns the team and therefore that influences their business practices...prior to Steinbrenner, the team did allow long hair and beards...i mean look at Thermon Munson (sorry for spelling) during the pre-steinbrenner days
it even looked more mangled than that at times...if you have the YES Network, watch Yankeeography: Thermon Munson they discuss just that
all the conservatism on the team is about 90% Steinbrenner. he even shows Fox News Network commercials...but really that' as bad as it is...then it's probably about 7% Cashman and 3% other if you look at the players, they are probably mostly liberal. and besides, politics is no reason to choose a sports team and Eddie knows that.
EDIT: oh and one other thing, probably every sports team owner is conservative like how Bush owned The Rangers. genrally the more wealthy you are the higher the chances of you being conservative, not that that means you really are, but among aristocrats like CEO's and Big Business owners (remember sports is a big business) you are probably conservative
Professional baseball players are overwhelmingly Republican.
The entire Yankee "aura" is conservative (not the stripper Aura that Curt Schilling talked about-- she's liberal). Traditional, staid, conforming, rich. I'm not making a value judgment here. That's how they present themselves. The Mets have always been the blue-collar team with the blue-collar fans (maybe this will change now that they have an expensive new ballpark).
Mark Teixeira summed up the synergy between the Yankees and Republican/conservative values with this quote after last night's game: "To the rich go the spoils." Note that he didn't say, "To the victor go the spoils."
sweet pic Joe, I heard Ed was there on Sunday, along with Pat the bat being back in town. All that manly man in one room would just be too much for me.
Professional baseball players are overwhelmingly Republican.
The entire Yankee "aura" is conservative (not the stripper Aura that Curt Schilling talked about-- she's liberal). Traditional, staid, conforming, rich. I'm not making a value judgment here. That's how they present themselves. The Mets have always been the blue-collar team with the blue-collar fans (maybe this will change now that they have an expensive new ballpark).
the day the mets change that is the day I burn my mets gear
Ed roots for whoever has a player the loves pearl jam or a team that will give him on the field acess. You really think if ed was a true cubs fan he would take bp at the mets stadium. That be like me taking bp at yankee stadium or in philly.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Professional baseball players are overwhelmingly Republican.
The entire Yankee "aura" is conservative (not the stripper Aura that Curt Schilling talked about-- she's liberal). Traditional, staid, conforming, rich. I'm not making a value judgment here. That's how they present themselves. The Mets have always been the blue-collar team with the blue-collar fans (maybe this will change now that they have an expensive new ballpark).
the day the mets change that is the day I burn my mets gear
Ed roots for whoever has a player the loves pearl jam or a team that will give him on the field acess. You really think if ed was a true cubs fan he would take bp at the mets stadium. That be like me taking bp at yankee stadium or in philly.
I know for a fact he's taken some swings at the old Vet n Philly. I think he's a baseball fan, hell, if I had the opportunity, I would LOVE to grab a bat and take some pitches in any stadium in this country - and I am woman. I'd love to be able to visit ANY park. It's the love of the game, doesn't make you any less a fan of your true team.
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Team 2009 payroll
New York Yankees $201,449,189
New York Mets $149,373,987
Chicago Cubs $134,809,000
Boston Red Sox $121,745,999
Detroit Tigers $115,085,145
Los Angeles Angels $113,709,00
Philadelphia Phillies $113,004,046
Houston Astros $102,996,414
Los Angeles Dodgers $100,414,592
Seattle Mariners $98,904,166
Atlanta Braves $96,726,166
Chicago White Sox $96,068,500
San Francisco Giants $82,616,450
Cleveland Indians $81,579,166
Toronto Blue Jays $80,538,300
Milwaukee Brewers $80,182,502
St. Louis Cardinals $77,605,109
Colorado Rockies $75,201,000
Cincinnati Reds $73,558,500
Arizona Diamondbacks $73,516,666
Kansas City Royals $70,519,333
Texas Rangers $68,178,798
Baltimore Orioles $67,101,666
Minnesota Twins $65,299,266
Tampa Bay Rays $63,313,034
Oakland Athletics $62,310,000
Washington Nationals $60,328,000
Pittsburgh Pirates $48,693,000
San Diego Padres $43,734,200
Florida Marlins $36,834,000
Source: USA Today
264 New York Yankees
201 Boston Red Sox
180 New York Mets
173 Seattle Mariners
170 Chicago Cubs
167 Philadelphia Phillies
166 Los Angeles Dodgers
162 Atlanta Braves
159 San Francisco Giants
155 Houston Astros
Bottom 5 MLB Revenues:
107 Toronto Blue Jays
104 Kansas City Royals
103 Florida Marlins
102 Minnesota Twins
80 Washington Nationals
% or Revenue spent on Payroll
79% Washington Nationals
79% Chicago White Sox
74% New York Yankees
70% Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
67% Toronto Blue Jays
66% Detroit Tigers
62% Minnesota Twins
60% Houston Astros
60% Boston Red Sox
59% Los Angeles Dodgers
59% St Louis Cardinals
57% San Francisco Giants
56% New York Mets
56% Atlanta Braves
55% Chicago Cubs
53% Oakland Athletics
53% Philadelphia Phillies
52% Milwaukee Brewers
51% Seattle Mariners
49% Baltimore Orioles
48% Cincinnati Reds
48% Texas Rangers
47% San Diego Padres
45% Kansas City Royals
44% Arizona Diamondbacks
43% Pittsburgh Pirates
40% Cleveland Indians
32% Tampa Bay Devil Rays
31% Colorado Rockies
15% Florida Marlins
So the Yankees put their money back into the team so what.
98 CAA
00 Virginia Beach;Camden I; Jones Beach III
05 Borgata Night I; Wachovia Center
06 Letterman Show; Webcast (guy in blue shirt), Camden I; DC
08 Camden I; Camden II; DC
09 Phillie III
10 MSG II
13 Wrigley Field
16 Phillie II
Having said that, why might it be a bad thing in this instance for one team to so far outspend everyone else? Because the entire game hinges on there being some semblance of competitive integrity-- that the teams are on a level playing field. Thankfully, baseball is a quirky enough game where sky-high payrolls don't guarantee you championships. The Yankees have always been the richest team. In the old days, the Philadelphia/Kansas City Athletics were essentially farm teams for the Yankees, who would buy their best players when the A's could no longer afford them. So it's not anything new. It's not a coincidence that the Yankees won 26 World Series in a 78-year span and were the richest team the entire time. That's the system. They're using it to their advantage. Bully for them. But they are definitely a white-collar, conservative, "Republican" operation.
it even looked more mangled than that at times...if you have the YES Network, watch Yankeeography: Thermon Munson they discuss just that
all the conservatism on the team is about 90% Steinbrenner. he even shows Fox News Network commercials...but really that' as bad as it is...then it's probably about 7% Cashman and 3% other if you look at the players, they are probably mostly liberal. and besides, politics is no reason to choose a sports team and Eddie knows that.
EDIT: oh and one other thing, probably every sports team owner is conservative like how Bush owned The Rangers. genrally the more wealthy you are the higher the chances of you being conservative, not that that means you really are, but among aristocrats like CEO's and Big Business owners (remember sports is a big business) you are probably conservative
The entire Yankee "aura" is conservative (not the stripper Aura that Curt Schilling talked about-- she's liberal). Traditional, staid, conforming, rich. I'm not making a value judgment here. That's how they present themselves. The Mets have always been the blue-collar team with the blue-collar fans (maybe this will change now that they have an expensive new ballpark).
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sweet pic Joe, I heard Ed was there on Sunday, along with Pat the bat being back in town. All that manly man in one room would just be too much for me.
Ed roots for whoever has a player the loves pearl jam or a team that will give him on the field acess. You really think if ed was a true cubs fan he would take bp at the mets stadium. That be like me taking bp at yankee stadium or in philly.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
I know for a fact he's taken some swings at the old Vet n Philly. I think he's a baseball fan, hell, if I had the opportunity, I would LOVE to grab a bat and take some pitches in any stadium in this country - and I am woman. I'd love to be able to visit ANY park. It's the love of the game, doesn't make you any less a fan of your true team.