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Anyone know the full Brother story?

ReleaseMe...ReleaseMe... Posts: 494
edited December 2008 in The Porch
has been becoming one of my favorite tracks, so wondering about the history. when was it recorded? did they ever have it orignially listed on an album? was it stone who suggested it be recorded without lyrics? etc

any info would be great thanks
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  • just davejust dave Posts: 260
    There are live versions out there with lyrics. And in my opinion it is way better with lyrics.

    It was recorded during the ten sessions.

    There is a mention of it in the lost dogs cd, and that is all i know
  • pearljgirl2010pearljgirl2010 Shillington, PA/Tuckerton, NJ Posts: 3,428
    just dave wrote:
    There are live versions out there with lyrics. And in my opinion it is way better with lyrics.

    It was recorded during the ten sessions.

    There is a mention of it in the lost dogs cd, and that is all i know


    that's exactly what I was going to say...it's a great song, better with lyrics, but I don't know the story.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    I think Jeff liked it with lyrics and Stone didn't. (or one wanted it on the record & one didn't) From what I remember reading, it got a bit tense. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I remember.
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  • ReleaseMe...ReleaseMe... Posts: 494
    on Ten?
    Mansfield II: # 23, since '03

    routine was the theme..

    there aint gonna be any middle any more
  • out of my headout of my head Posts: 59
    there's an interesting story about it in the Lost Dogs liner notes. I searched but could not find them, if someone else has a screen shot or can type them, it is worth reading. I found this while searching:

    "Brother" is a song by Pearl Jam. The song was a Ten outtake. Rarely performed, the song is available on several bootlegs but has not appeared in full form on any studio album. The song's music was written by guitarist Stone Gossard. The original version featured lyrics and vocals by Eddie Vedder. The song was featured on the rarities compilation Lost Dogs but without any lyrics, only the instrumental parts. While the band was working on Ten the song became a point of contention between Gossard and bassist Jeff Ament. In a story described in the liner notes of the Lost Dogs album, Gossard decided he was no longer interested in playing the riff which almost caused Ament to quit the band. When it came time for the band to select tracks to include on Lost Dogs, Gossard remained uninterested in the song and Vedder decided he was no longer pleased with his lyrics. Vedder suggested to guitarist Mike McCready that he overdub some guitar parts in place of the lyrics and this is the version that appears on the album.[1]

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  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 3,965
    From Lost Dogs:
    Mike: This song caused an argument between Jeff and Stone back in the day. I put guitars all over it cause Ed asked me to.

    Jeff: I fricking loved this Stone riff in 1991... in fact, when Stone said he was over it and didn't want to play it anymore, I nearly quit the band (what a fucking baby I was)...I do remember going out to the 7 foot hoop behind London Bridge where we were recording and dunking until my wrists were bleeding...ahhh, passive aggressive rage...makes for some good rock n roll, my brother.

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  • PrlJam27PrlJam27 Colonia, NJ Posts: 346
    just dave wrote:
    There are live versions out there with lyrics. And in my opinion it is way better with lyrics.

    It was recorded during the ten sessions.

    There is a mention of it in the lost dogs cd, and that is all i know


    i believe there is a bootleg studio recording of it with lyrics floating around out there to.
  • iamicaiamica Chicago Posts: 2,628
    I like the song without lyrics. I especially love Mike's solos all over it.
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  • JimBerkellJimBerkell Posts: 579
    iamica wrote:
    I like the song without lyrics. I especially love Mike's solos all over it.

    Same here... one of my favs off Lost Dogs
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  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,283
    I like it better without lyrics as on Lost Dogs. I heard a version with lyrics.
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  • papasanpapasan Posts: 19
    After listening to "Brother" with lyrics years before Lost Dogs, there's no way I'll ever substitute it for the instrumental version. I listened to the new version a few times, and that was enough for me.
  • PrlJam27PrlJam27 Colonia, NJ Posts: 346
    papasan wrote:
    After listening to "Brother" with lyrics years before Lost Dogs, there's no way I'll ever substitute it for the instrumental version. I listened to the new version a few times, and that was enough for me.


    i second. definately better with lyrics.
  • GardenpartyGardenparty Posts: 1,910
    PrlJam27 wrote:
    i second. definately better with lyrics.

    Thirded. I listened to the instrumental a few times but the lead sounded pretty bland to me. Souds like he just hit the record button and winged it.

    The lyric verison is much better to me.
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  • Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    Why would you prefer the instrumental version? That's retarded.
  • 20Ram2020Ram20 Posts: 3
    Why would you prefer the version with lyrics? That's retarded.
  • fortyshadesfortyshades Posts: 1,834
    For the lyrics weren't that strong IMO. They seemed a bit out of focus... Prefer the intensity of the guitar.
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