PJ studio album reissues-Vinyls as well?

Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
edited October 2009 in The Porch
has anyone heard any rumours about all the studio vinyls being reissued (like Ten) when the cd's are reissued? I ask because I just started collecting PJ vinyls (late to the party, I know), so I don't want to spend a tonne of money on eBay if I don't have to.

Am I wrong in assuming this will happen? Obviously, I would assume this would not include LO2L, Benny, and of course, ITW.
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  • I really don't think they're going to reissue anything else. There's no need.
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  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,083
    I really don't think they're going to reissue anything else. There's no need.

    the entire back catalog is being reissued,...
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  • 100 Pacer wrote:
    I really don't think they're going to reissue anything else. There's no need.

    the entire back catalog is being reissued,...

    yeah I heard that too. I just don't think it's going to happen. They always wanted to remix Ten and it was packaged with goodies like the Unplugged performance so it worked. But what would they do with the other albums? I guess they can remaster them but what else could they do besides that? I doubt there's many worthwhile outtakes laying around to include.
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  • Pearl JamesPearl James Pittsburgh/Chicago Posts: 436
    I dont think theyre reissuing them, I think theyre just re-releasing them. No biggie.
  • I don't know. I think it would be fairly odd to do up Ten in such an extraordinary way and then just re-issue the other discs with little or no fanfare or bells and whistles. I don't think it will be as elaborate as Ten Legacy, but I'm hoping for more than just re-releasing them. That would be a supreme let down.
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  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562
    100 Pacer wrote:
    I really don't think they're going to reissue anything else. There's no need.

    the entire back catalog is being reissued,...

    yeah I heard that too. I just don't think it's going to happen. They always wanted to remix Ten and it was packaged with goodies like the Unplugged performance so it worked. But what would they do with the other albums? I guess they can remaster them but what else could they do besides that? I doubt there's many worthwhile outtakes laying around to include.

    Then new and improved "PJ GREEN MACHINE" will undoubtably re-release their ENTIRE back catalog....

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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    i 100% believe they will reissue most of the albums. the Ten sde package spine looks like its an encyclopedia... looks like the next one will be a few albums at a time... but thats my personal belief.
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  • I reckon at least V.S. will be. Aside from the first two albums, Pearl Jam has the best album packaging of any band I can think of - it'd be nice to see the end of the first two in jewel cases. As far as reissues go, I don't really know the point of BoB remastering stuff he did a decade ago, just seems strange. I hope that the vinyl is readily available again though, that'd be amazing.
  • ElzarElzar Posts: 966
    I hope the all the albums get re-released on vinyl too, but wouldnt that upset alot of people who paid a ton of cash for the records for their collections, and now the value may sink?

    and why rerelease VS unless it is a reissue/remastered - theres so many Vs LP's out there, it's unbelievable - correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this album has some sort of record for highest number of units sold first week or something?
  • satanmansatanman Posts: 295
    they will remaster/expand the cd's just like they did on ten (not the remixed disc) although I do hope they remaster all the discs to see what they can alter/add to the albums. I really liked the remixed ten disc. As for the vinyl 180g versions will be great. The original pressed vinyl wont decrease in value, infact it will become even more valuable IMO.
  • Oh, if they re-release everything on vinyl, the original's will definitely decrease in value. There will still be people who will pay a lot for the originals, but the majority of people will settle for the reissue, making the demand for the originals much lower.
  • 100 Pacer wrote:
    I really don't think they're going to reissue anything else. There's no need.

    the entire back catalog is being reissued,...

    yeah I heard that too. I just don't think it's going to happen. They always wanted to remix Ten and it was packaged with goodies like the Unplugged performance so it worked. But what would they do with the other albums? I guess they can remaster them but what else could they do besides that? I doubt there's many worthwhile outtakes laying around to include.


    Someone was talking to Mike before the shows in Seattle and he mentioned, that they have been playing/rehearsing all their songs with new parts and extended intros/outros specifically for the re-issues. I don't know if you have seen them live this tour but some songs have had new parts, like off he goes is longer and mike has like a weird solo kind of thing at the end, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9StS-4iYScw watch the last 2 minutes, it is drastically different, also No Way had an extended jam with Mike solo at the end.

    Also, as for the outtakes comment, have you seen the inside cover of lost dogs with the picture of the masters?
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  • Also, as for the outtakes comment, have you seen the inside cover of lost dogs with the picture of the masters?

    yeah I did see that picture. yet the only song that unearthed for the Ten reissue that we've never heard was 2,000 mile blues. I agree with mach271 that any furthur PJ reissues is about making money and nothing else. The Ten reissue had it's merit because the remix is really that much better than the original mix......but any further reissues won't.
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  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562

    Also, as for the outtakes comment, have you seen the inside cover of lost dogs with the picture of the masters?

    yeah I did see that picture. yet the only song that unearthed for the Ten reissue that we've never heard was 2,000 mile blues. I agree with mach271 that any furthur PJ reissues is about making money and nothing else. The Ten reissue had it's merit because the remix is really that much better than the original mix......but any further reissues won't.

    +1
  • CJMST3K wrote:
    i 100% believe they will reissue most of the albums. the Ten sde package spine looks like its an encyclopedia... looks like the next one will be a few albums at a time... but thats my personal belief.

    yup...i can see it, too. next will prolly be vs. and vitalogy to finish out the dave a. years. then a no code/yield set. then a binaural/riot act set.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,007
    Elzar wrote:
    I hope the all the albums get re-released on vinyl too, but wouldnt that upset alot of people who paid a ton of cash for the records for their collections, and now the value may sink?

    and why rerelease VS unless it is a reissue/remastered - theres so many Vs LP's out there, it's unbelievable - correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this album has some sort of record for highest number of units sold first week or something?

    Umm, were people buying the records to listen to music, or as an investment? When I buy a record, I like to, you know, listen to it. I don't care how much it's worth on eBay. People who are worried about how much their Pearl Jam records are worth can suck it.
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    CJMST3K wrote:
    i 100% believe they will reissue most of the albums. the Ten sde package spine looks like its an encyclopedia... looks like the next one will be a few albums at a time... but thats my personal belief.

    yup...i can see it, too. next will prolly be vs. and vitalogy to finish out the dave a. years. then a no code/yield set. then a binaural/riot act set.


    We're on the same page. 1 boxset for their huge Ten album (Krusen), 1 box set for VS. & Vitalogy (Abbruzzese), 1 box set for No Code & Yield (Irons), 1 box set for Binaural & Riot Act (Cameron). I'm wondering if they'll do all these box sets, and if so, if they'll include Avocado too. I think that album could use some BO'B touches too.
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  • Elzar wrote:
    I hope the all the albums get re-released on vinyl too, but wouldnt that upset alot of people who paid a ton of cash for the records for their collections, and now the value may sink?

    and why rerelease VS unless it is a reissue/remastered - theres so many Vs LP's out there, it's unbelievable - correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this album has some sort of record for highest number of units sold first week or something?

    Umm, were people buying the records to listen to music, or as an investment? When I buy a record, I like to, you know, listen to it. I don't care how much it's worth on eBay. People who are worried about how much their Pearl Jam records are worth can suck it.

    I think he just means that they'd be mad they paid X amount of dollars, and it comes out again wayyy cheaper, that's all.

    But I would hope that PJ didn't care how much people paid for their product second-hand.
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Elzar wrote:
    I hope the all the albums get re-released on vinyl too, but wouldnt that upset alot of people who paid a ton of cash for the records for their collections, and now the value may sink?

    and why rerelease VS unless it is a reissue/remastered - theres so many Vs LP's out there, it's unbelievable - correct me if i'm wrong, but i think this album has some sort of record for highest number of units sold first week or something?

    Umm, were people buying the records to listen to music, or as an investment? When I buy a record, I like to, you know, listen to it. I don't care how much it's worth on eBay. People who are worried about how much their Pearl Jam records are worth can suck it.

    I think he just means that they'd be mad they paid X amount of dollars, and it comes out again wayyy cheaper, that's all.

    But I would hope that PJ didn't care how much people paid for their product second-hand.


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  • NeilJamNeilJam Posts: 1,191
    Someone was talking to Mike before the shows in Seattle and he mentioned, that they have been playing/rehearsing all their songs with new parts and extended intros/outros specifically for the re-issues. I don't know if you have seen them live this tour but some songs have had new parts, like off he goes is longer and mike has like a weird solo kind of thing at the end, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9StS-4iYScw watch the last 2 minutes, it is drastically different, also No Way had an extended jam with Mike solo at the end.


    I find it hard to believe that they would re-record songs for the reissues. Not that I wouldn't enjoy new studio versions of older songs, I just don't think that's likely. Of course if they do re-record songs (or parts), maybe Ed will re-record the last lines of Corduroy to be the same as the ones he has sang live for the past decade.
  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    NeilJam wrote:
    Someone was talking to Mike before the shows in Seattle and he mentioned, that they have been playing/rehearsing all their songs with new parts and extended intros/outros specifically for the re-issues. I don't know if you have seen them live this tour but some songs have had new parts, like off he goes is longer and mike has like a weird solo kind of thing at the end, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9StS-4iYScw watch the last 2 minutes, it is drastically different, also No Way had an extended jam with Mike solo at the end.


    I find it hard to believe that they would re-record songs for the reissues. Not that I wouldn't enjoy new studio versions of older songs, I just don't think that's likely. Of course if they do re-record songs (or parts), maybe Ed will re-record the last lines of Corduroy to be the same as the ones he has sang live for the past decade.


    They had better include the original performances in a re-release.

    If you have george washington's axe, and the handle breaks and you replace it with a new one, is it still george washington's axe? If the blade breaks, and you replace that too, is it still george washington's axe?

    It's one thing to use the original recordings and put a mix at different levels for a re-release.

    It was a slippery thing on the Unplugged DVD to remove vocals and alter them to suit what they wish they would have said, like on Oceans, and imply it's the original performance.

    It would be a different album if they put new music or different musicians on a re-release.

    I don't think they would do that, particularly on a re-release, but then again PJ has been surprising me in recent years.
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  • CJMST3K wrote:
    It was a slippery thing on the Unplugged DVD to remove vocals and alter them to suit what they wish they would have said, like on Oceans, and imply it's the original performance.

    I'm going to have to watch that again. I had NO IDEA they did that. What did they remove/replace?
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  • Hope this has not already been mentioned, but does anyone else wonder if the reason they messed with the integrity of Unplugged, and put fades in Drop in the Park, and provided us with what sounds like a fan recording (no offense) of the Academy show...

    Was done as a workaround because of Sony?

    I only mention this because I hope more vault material (possibly w/reissues) will see the light of day soon, but fear they'll get similar treatment.
  • CJMST3K wrote:
    It was a slippery thing on the Unplugged DVD to remove vocals and alter them to suit what they wish they would have said, like on Oceans, and imply it's the original performance.

    I'm going to have to watch that again. I had NO IDEA they did that. What did they remove/replace?
    They edited the, "Ohhh Beth" lines at the end of Oceans.
  • EP1973EP1973 Posts: 112
    IMO, if the subsequent box sets comine the albums in pairs (Vs., Vitalogy; No Code, Yield; Binaural, Riot Act) they could put together 3 boxed comparable to the Ten Re-issue. They could include:

    1-Each of the original albums supplemented with demos recorded during the time of the corresponding album
    2-Vinyl copies of each album
    3-A Double Vinyl of a concert from the same era featuring songs from both albums in the set
    4-A DVD of a show from the corresponding time frame for each set
    5-A hard bound book with photos, set lists, articles, etc. corresponding to the time frame for each set
    6-A poster representing each album in each set
    7-Reproductions of memorabilia from the time frame documented by each individual set
    8-A special rare item of interest (much like the cassette in the Ten Box)

    If done in this manner, each set would have nearly the same amount of items the Ten Box had. AND, it works out that the 3 sets would feature a different drummer in each set. This is what I've been thinking the plan is ever since I got the Ten Box...just makes sense to me.
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