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Album to Avoid = Yield??

joewalshdcjoewalshdc Posts: 948
edited October 2009 in The Porch
The latest RIP IT UP magazine in NZ is a Pearl Jam special...Eddie is guest editor (but i should stress I would have to use this term loosely, its basically just a small excerpt on ed).....There is a great article on the whole band...a small piece on ed talking about the history of Alive, STBC, off he goes, last kiss and The Fixer...a page of great ed quotes....a review of Backspacer giving it 4/5 and piece that I guess you could call "the essential pearl jam by writer Gina Williams"....

So heres Miss Williams guide to PJ...and I quote....

START HERE= TEN (91) "its complex arrangements recall great years of yore such as Hendrix and Zep, yet it is self-aware enough not to fall into stadium rock territory"

FOLLOW WITH= VITALOGY (94) "vitalogy saw a minimalist, stripped back, original, yet stubborn album"

THEN GET= VS. (93) "a band clearly learning to deal with their newly acquired fame"

THE WILD CARD= RIOT ACT (02) "RA saw PJ retreat to their Vitalogy days, with just the right amount of burly art rock that hits the listener hard"

AVOID= YIELD (98) "despite one non status quo moment on the spoken word "push and pull me", its a rather straightforward effort"

ADVANCED LISTENING= Bootlegs "hundreds to wade through"


End of quotes...back to me...wow is all i can say....AVOID YIELD....one word...WRONG.....!!!
Must say for most PJ fans i think theres really nothing new in this PJ edition of Rip It Up...Pretty disappointing.
Peace and Love from NZ, Joe
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  • GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    my heart just stopped. the horror. if anyone follows this and avoids yield???? i can't think right now...
    Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
  • joewalshdcjoewalshdc Posts: 948
    Gmoney wrote:
    my heart just stopped. the horror. if anyone follows this and avoids yield???? i can't think right now...

    I know...i wondered was it maybe a generic piece on PJ, then i thought, good call with Riot Act cause personally i love it, then the dreaded words AVOID YIELD....wtf?? Status Quo....oh man...
  • Hammartime33Hammartime33 Posts: 207
    joewalshdc wrote:
    The latest RIP IT UP magazine in NZ is a Pearl Jam special...Eddie is guest editor (but i should stress I would have to use this term loosely, its basically just a small excerpt on ed).....There is a great article on the whole band...a small piece on ed talking about the history of Alive, STBC, off he goes, last kiss and The Fixer...a page of great ed quotes....a review of Backspacer giving it 4/5 and piece that I guess you could call "the essential pearl jam by writer Gina Williams"....

    So heres Miss Williams guide to PJ...and I quote....

    START HERE= TEN (91) "its complex arrangements recall great years of yore such as Hendrix and Zep, yet it is self-aware enough not to fall into stadium rock territory"

    FOLLOW WITH= VITALOGY (94) "vitalogy saw a minimalist, stripped back, original, yet stubborn album"

    THEN GET= VS. (93) "a band clearly learning to deal with their newly acquired fame"

    THE WILD CARD= RIOT ACT (02) "RA saw PJ retreat to their Vitalogy days, with just the right amount of burly art rock that hits the listener hard"

    AVOID= YIELD (98) "despite one non status quo moment on the spoken word "push and pull me", its a rather straightforward effort"

    ADVANCED LISTENING= Bootlegs "hundreds to wade through"


    End of quotes...back to me...wow is all i can say....AVOID YIELD....one word...WRONG.....!!!
    Must say for most PJ fans i think theres really nothing new in this PJ edition of Rip It Up...Pretty disappointing.
    Peace and Love from NZ, Joe

    She must lead a miserable and pathetic life.
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    :o :shock: :?: :(
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    to think that she may prevent someone from hearing Yield... that's a crime, seriously. I agree with Riot Act, too. Best fall album ever, listening to it at work right now. But avoid Yield? I want to punch her! ;)
    Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
  • joewalshdcjoewalshdc Posts: 948
    Gmoney wrote:
    to think that she may prevent someone from hearing Yield... that's a crime, seriously. I agree with Riot Act, too. Best fall album ever, listening to it at work right now. But avoid Yield? I want to punch her! ;)

    Take a ticket, join the queue........ :)
  • GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    joewalshdc wrote:
    Gmoney wrote:
    to think that she may prevent someone from hearing Yield... that's a crime, seriously. I agree with Riot Act, too. Best fall album ever, listening to it at work right now. But avoid Yield? I want to punch her! ;)

    Take a ticket, join the queue........ :)
    Lets all get torches and pitchforks and track her down :evil:
    Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
  • Niko80Niko80 Posts: 1,610
    Yield aint that great IMO. Save Brain of J, Faithful, GTF & In Hiding I dont find it very interesting. I know I am in the minority on this one but it is actually possible to put yield behind the other albums :)
    I will swallow poison
  • joewalshdcjoewalshdc Posts: 948
    Niko80 wrote:
    Yield aint that great IMO. Save Brain of J, Faithful, GTF & In Hiding I dont find it very interesting. I know I am in the minority on this one but it is actually possible to put yield behind the other albums :)

    Interesting...
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,655
    joewalshdc wrote:
    AVOID= YIELD (98) "despite one non status quo moment on the spoken word "push and pull me", its a rather straightforward effort"

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  • GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    Niko80 wrote:
    Yield aint that great IMO. Save Brain of J, Faithful, GTF & In Hiding I dont find it very interesting. I know I am in the minority on this one but it is actually possible to put yield behind the other albums :)
    well why don't you go hang out with Miss Williams? jk ;)
    Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
  • HawkshoreHawkshore Posts: 2,163
    Wow such a well thought out crticism "its a rather straightforward effort" :roll:
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  • Niko80Niko80 Posts: 1,610
    edited October 2009
    joewalshdc wrote:
    Niko80 wrote:
    Yield aint that great IMO. Save Brain of J, Faithful, GTF & In Hiding I dont find it very interesting. I know I am in the minority on this one but it is actually possible to put yield behind the other albums :)

    Interesting...

    sure is ;)
    Post edited by Niko80 on
    I will swallow poison
  • hollyster70hollyster70 Posts: 228
    I pity anyone that bases their selection of art based on a critics opinion...

    AVOID=CRITICS
    Be Kind, for everyone is fighting a hard battle
  • ReachingForThinAirReachingForThinAir Posts: 184
    Niko80 wrote:
    Yield aint that great IMO. Save Brain of J, Faithful, GTF & In Hiding I dont find it very interesting. I know I am in the minority on this one but it is actually possible to put yield behind the other albums :)

    yeah really. That fucking No Way and All Those fucking Yesterdays.

    those bastards. And then they go and play them on the West Coast.

    Yield to Yield!
    WOOT!
  • joewalshdcjoewalshdc Posts: 948
    Hawkshore wrote:
    Wow such a well thought out crticism "its a rather straightforward effort" :roll:

    Im wondering if shes thrown it on, heard Wishlist and written this....BTW i love wishlist but its probably PJ's most straightforward song in terms of chords and arrangment...however what is straightforward about Brain Of J, DTE, GTF...im stumped.... :?
  • hollow bottlehollow bottle Posts: 183
    Critics suck. I'll be the judge for myself.
    TDR
  • loopjdloopjd Posts: 121
    hollow bottle wrote:
    Critics suck. I'll be the judge for myself.

    Amen.
    September 30th, 2009
    Best. Night. Ever.
  • PJ Fan est. 1990PJ Fan est. 1990 Posts: 1,788
    the list should go

    Start With: Ten, shows you how this band hit the scene and made the impact it did

    Follow Up: the rest of their albums in chronological order, this will show you how the band has evolved

    Wild Card: Lost Dogs, some rareties and b-sides, definitely worth a listen or two

    Skip: RVM greatest hits, all songs you've heard before, nothing new, however some of the songs are alternate recordings so...actually don't skip it...you might want to check it out.
  • Quinn427Quinn427 Posts: 60
    f that Yield is one of the best.
  • Red_DotRed_Dot Posts: 1,454
    Yield got me into PJ - being too young when the other albums were released, and early teens when Yield came out, it was the starting point for me, and a great one at that!
    Take me for a ride before we leave...
  • breath123breath123 Posts: 397
    wow....seriously?

    here's what you do....

    start with reviewmirror.

    then listen to the albums in order. they pretty much tell the story of the band.

    end with lost dogs.
  • riCotokYoriCotokYo Posts: 159
    Yeild is by far my favorite!!! i guess im a moron?!
  • PJ Fan est. 1990PJ Fan est. 1990 Posts: 1,788
    riCotokYo wrote:
    Yeild is by far my favorite!!! i guess im a moron?!

    if there was a direct link between the adoration of Yield and Moronness, most of the PJ population would be morons...so you're not alone
  • TinyFistsTinyFists Posts: 142
    Slating Yield with a throwaway remark? Rubbish! Describing Riot Act, as a 'wildcard', and relating it back to Vitalogy? Strange. And talking about Vs in terms of "a band clearly learning to deal with their newly acquired fame"? What does that actually tell you about the music on the record? Nothing! Of course, her opinion is her opinion...but it's no more valid than yours or mine. And as far as I can see, she hasn't contributed anything particularly interesting or helpful in writing this.
    Try to tell me that you love me, throw your little punches at me...
  • corduroykellycorduroykelly Posts: 668
    Anyone who says avoid Yield doesn't know shit about Pearl Jam.
  • sharonrachel1sharonrachel1 Posts: 37
    You must be high and I dont mean in a good way.. Yield is awesome....
    joewalshdc wrote:
    The latest RIP IT UP magazine in NZ is a Pearl Jam special...Eddie is guest editor (but i should stress I would have to use this term loosely, its basically just a small excerpt on ed).....There is a great article on the whole band...a small piece on ed talking about the history of Alive, STBC, off he goes, last kiss and The Fixer...a page of great ed quotes....a review of Backspacer giving it 4/5 and piece that I guess you could call "the essential pearl jam by writer Gina Williams"....

    So heres Miss Williams guide to PJ...and I quote....

    START HERE= TEN (91) "its complex arrangements recall great years of yore such as Hendrix and Zep, yet it is self-aware enough not to fall into stadium rock territory"

    FOLLOW WITH= VITALOGY (94) "vitalogy saw a minimalist, stripped back, original, yet stubborn album"

    THEN GET= VS. (93) "a band clearly learning to deal with their newly acquired fame"

    THE WILD CARD= RIOT ACT (02) "RA saw PJ retreat to their Vitalogy days, with just the right amount of burly art rock that hits the listener hard"

    AVOID= YIELD (98) "despite one non status quo moment on the spoken word "push and pull me", its a rather straightforward effort"

    ADVANCED LISTENING= Bootlegs "hundreds to wade through"


    End of quotes...back to me...wow is all i can say....AVOID YIELD....one word...WRONG.....!!!
    Must say for most PJ fans i think theres really nothing new in this PJ edition of Rip It Up...Pretty disappointing.
    Peace and Love from NZ, Joe
  • vedder_soupvedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    i don't know what they smoke there in NZ but i will be sure to avoid it when i am there in november :lol:
    Avoid Yield :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    PJ Fan est. 1990 wrote:
    the list should go

    Start With: Ten, shows you how this band hit the scene and made the impact it did

    Follow Up: the rest of their albums in chronological order, this will show you how the band has evolved

    Wild Card: Lost Dogs, some rareties and b-sides, definitely worth a listen or two

    Skip: RVM greatest hits, all songs you've heard before, nothing new, however some of the songs are alternate recordings so...actually don't skip it...you might want to check it out.

    Basically....
    5/28/06, 6/27/08, 10/28/09, 5/18/10, 5/21/10
    8/7/08, 6/9/09
  • joewalshdcjoewalshdc Posts: 948
    sharonrachel1 wrote:
    You must be high and I dont mean in a good way.. Yield is awesome....
    joewalshdc wrote:
    The latest RIP IT UP magazine in NZ is a Pearl Jam special...Eddie is guest editor (but i should stress I would have to use this term loosely, its basically just a small excerpt on ed).....There is a great article on the whole band...a small piece on ed talking about the history of Alive, STBC, off he goes, last kiss and The Fixer...a page of great ed quotes....a review of Backspacer giving it 4/5 and piece that I guess you could call "the essential pearl jam by writer Gina Williams"....

    So heres Miss Williams guide to PJ...and I quote....

    START HERE= TEN (91) "its complex arrangements recall great years of yore such as Hendrix and Zep, yet it is self-aware enough not to fall into stadium rock territory"

    FOLLOW WITH= VITALOGY (94) "vitalogy saw a minimalist, stripped back, original, yet stubborn album"

    THEN GET= VS. (93) "a band clearly learning to deal with their newly acquired fame"

    THE WILD CARD= RIOT ACT (02) "RA saw PJ retreat to their Vitalogy days, with just the right amount of burly art rock that hits the listener hard"

    AVOID= YIELD (98) "despite one non status quo moment on the spoken word "push and pull me", its a rather straightforward effort"

    ADVANCED LISTENING= Bootlegs "hundreds to wade through"


    End of quotes...back to me...wow is all i can say....AVOID YIELD....one word...WRONG.....!!!
    Must say for most PJ fans i think theres really nothing new in this PJ edition of Rip It Up...Pretty disappointing.
    Peace and Love from NZ, Joe

    dude i didnt write it!!!!!!!
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