Ed gone carnivore?

rebornFixer

Vedd Hedd wrote:

Forgot to add.

Support free range and organic until it becomes the standard. It's not only healthier for the animals, it's better for you. Most mega markets now offer organic produce and some grass fed, free range meats, which was unthinkable a dozen years ago. Prices on that stuff is all coming down, and if you continue to support it, it will get cheaper.

I agree with this. Meat does not have to be planet-unfriendly ... Its getting easier to find organic/free-range/naturally-raised meats, and while more expensive, this is less of a problem if you eat meat in moderation ... One does not need to eat huge quantities of meat every day. You'll get the health benefits eating smaller amounts, avoid many of the downsides (e.g., excessive saturated fat), and save money besides.
One other thing I will say ... If you buy fish, buy it from sustainable sources if possible. Overfishing is destroying the oceans. Don't eat shark or other endangered species. Rant over. 8-)

Gremmie03

dont travel to see PJ. It could kill you and mama earth

InHiding19

Yes I love meat. Especially Cheeseburgers with a side order of sirloin.

facepollution

there are witches wrote:

I am a vegetarian, and have been for about 5 years, and it has definitely changed me as a person. At this point I could never look at an animal and think "food". My perspective on animals is completely different than it was 5 years ago.

I gave up vegetarianism after 13 years last year - my perspective on animals is now completely different than it was previously too. My main issue at the time was a matter of ethics, but after learning a few facts I totally changed my mind. For example, I used to eat eggs and dairy, which are ultimately a by-product of the meat industry. Then you have the fact that there are certain parts of the world where it isn't possible to grow crops due to extreme temperatures, and thus meat eating is essential for survival. Now arguably most people who live in Westernised countries are able to make a choice, but it also tells me that eating meat isn't ethically 'wrong'. Then there are all the small animals that are churned up in fields by agricultural machinery.

ofthegirl75

"Then you have the fact that there are certain parts of the world where it isn't possible to grow crops due to extreme temperatures, and thus meat eating is essential for survival."




So what do they feed the animals? Other animals??

CJMST3K

Luk1n wrote:

From Fort Worth chef Tim Love's Twitter page:

cheftimlove "I'm a vegetarian and your steak just changed that. It was that good" eddie vedder. About the dinner I cooked for him! about 3 hours ago


Hmm...

Anyone want to email or twit him or whatever newfangled technology would answer the question?

...I'm a veggie of about 18 years - 100% without caving in, so I'm just a little curious.

facepollution

ofthegirl75 wrote:

"Then you have the fact that there are certain parts of the world where it isn't possible to grow crops due to extreme temperatures, and thus meat eating is essential for survival."




So what do they feed the animals? Other animals??

Guess again!! They live on seafood and sea mammals like Walrus. Plus there's nothing stopping say a goat, eating the few shrubs that may grow, which would be inedible to humans.

rebornFixer

Vegetarianism is interesting, in that it is essentially a by-product of the overabundance of food in Western societies. Do you think that impoverished people in other parts of the world turn down opportunities to eat meat for moral reasons? Only comparatively wealthy and priveledged folks have the luxury of eschewing a whole class of protein-rich foods ... To be fair, there are more traditional beliefs underlying some forms of vegetarianism (e.g., like in certain Hindu sects), but in North America, we are in the fairly unique position of being able to make this sort of choice. I am somewhat torn on the whole thing ... I don't think that meat is immoral, although I do believe in conservation and reasonable treatment of food animals. I love the taste of meat, but I try to be selective about the sources my meat comes from and I have reduced my intake pretty drastically.

CJMST3K

rebornFixer wrote:

Do you think that impoverished people in other parts of the world turn down opportunities to eat meat for moral reasons?

Like in third-world countries? I assume you know a significant percentage of India's population is vegetarian.

I'm going to assume wikipedia is mostly accurate on this:
"Today, Indian vegetarians, primarily lacto vegetarians, are estimated to make up more than 70% of the world's vegetarians. They make up 20–42% of the population in India, while less than 30% are regular meat-eaters"

facepollution

CJMST3K wrote:

rebornFixer wrote:

Do you think that impoverished people in other parts of the world turn down opportunities to eat meat for moral reasons?

Like in third-world countries? I assume you know a significant percentage of India's population is vegetarian.

I'm going to assume wikipedia is mostly accurate on this:
"Today, Indian vegetarians, primarily lacto vegetarians, are estimated to make up more than 70% of the world's vegetarians. They make up 20–42% of the population in India, while less than 30% are regular meat-eaters"

I believe the person you quoted meant that people who genuinely had no other choice but to eat meat because there was no other food around - India may be impoverished to some extent, but they also have the means to grow crops and rear animals.

clockistotime

CJMST3K wrote:

Luk1n wrote:

From Fort Worth chef Tim Love's Twitter page:
cheftimlove "I'm a vegetarian and your steak just changed that. It was that good" eddie vedder. About the dinner I cooked for him! about 3 hours ago

Anyone want to email or twit him or whatever newfangled technology would answer the question?
...I'm a veggie of about 18 years - 100% without caving in, so I'm just a little curious.

for the record the 'chef' who posted that original 'tweet' has since removed his post.
here's his twitter page: http://twitter.com/cheftimlove

this is what i wrote him late sunday night after it was posted on the forum:
"@cheftimlove you're sayin that Eddie, who's been a long-time vegetarian, ate meat? how does one convince a vegetarian to eat meat that easy?"

he hasn't replied yet. so i guess we'll never know...

Aaron 23

ofthegirl75 wrote:

"Then you have the fact that there are certain parts of the world where it isn't possible to grow crops due to extreme temperatures, and thus meat eating is essential for survival."




So what do they feed the animals? Other animals??

To add to the seafood bit, there are some climates that are too harsh to grow crops that humans can digest, but can grow grasses and other plants that can be digested by many grazing animals that are farmed by the indigenous peoples in the area.

josevolution

Black Diamond wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Damm now i'm hungry for a good porter house ....with red vino

Lunch at Luger's...

Hell yeah they make such good steaks damm ...uhmm uhmm

CHANGEinWAVES

My3rdEye wrote:

He must be getting ready for cheese steaks in Philly :twisted:

can't pass that up... YUM!

EP1973

Nothing wrong with eating meat...I feel fortunate to live in a place where you can leave out before the crack of dawn, venture into the woods, kill a buck, and have it on the grill by the evening. Unless you have eaten freshly "harvested" venison, don't knock it.

decides2dream

KDH12 wrote:

I am a vegetarian

but one of my hard rules is that if someone is nice enough to cook me dinner or invite me over and all they have is meat, I eat

no need to be rude, it rarely happens but once in awhile I have to partake out of respect.

good rule of thumb.
i know a veggie who was heading over to italy. i RAVEd about the proscuitto, how fantastic it is, and how he really should enjoy some mozzarella, proscuitto and red peppers. jokingly. he took a picture of himself eating it. was awesome.

now i DO understand there are many people who go veggie/vegan from a moral perspective, but if from a health perspective....yea, wavering here or there ain't gonna kill ya.


besides, we are OMNIvores by nature. so eat and enjoy what you will.
seeing as ed wears leather, i am going to imagine he's a veggie simply for health, or overall tastes, rather than solidly moral grounds. so if the man wants to eat a steak, or get pepperoni on his pizza now and again, more power to em. or anyone really. tis a non-issue imo.

edit - as to the guy's twitter page, maybe he was asked to alter it, or he simply thought it a good idea...given that many pj fans actually give a shit what ed eats.