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DTE is too slow on the album

kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
edited October 2009 in The Porch
I'm listening through Yield right now, and every other song sounds like it's at the correct pace, but I'm so used to hearing DTE being sped-up live, that it sounds like it's in slow motion on the album. It's almost painful to listen to, although the hallelujah's sound spookier, which is pretty cool.

Am I crazy?

Because if I am... then I gotta say... as I make it on to track 8...

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  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    Every single song PJ play in concert is 1.25 times fastes at least!
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  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    arq wrote:
    Every single song PJ play in concert is 1.25 times fastes at least!


    :mrgreen: Good point. I think it's just really noticeable on DTE. Save You is another good example of this.
  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    Not crazy. I was thinking the same thing about a month ago.
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  • Paul AndrewsPaul Andrews Posts: 2,489
    I think both speeds suit their purpose. The slightly slower tempo on the album realy lets you hear the great guitar/bass work better and allows the lyrics to sink in better. Speeding it up live is icing on the cake to really make you rock out.
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  • markin ballmarkin ball Posts: 1,075
    I love everything about the studio version, including the tempo. There is a "tension" in the studio version that is lost a bit when played live. I think that it is partly due to the tempo. Wouldn't change a thing.
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  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    MS7509 wrote:
    I love everything about the studio version, including the tempo. There is a "tension" in the studio version that is lost a bit when played live. I think that it is partly due to the tempo. Wouldn't change a thing.

    +1 very well put!
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,965
    There's also a build in intensity and aggravation in the studio version that gets lost live.
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  • SOLAT319SOLAT319 Posts: 4,596
    arq wrote:
    Every single song PJ play in concert is 1.25 times fastes at least!

    :idea:
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  • Evil BeaverEvil Beaver Posts: 84
    What the original poster said was spot on.

    The first time I heard the studio version of Do The Evolution I was very, very disappointed. A friend and I road-tripped to San Francisco in the fall of 1997 to see Pearl Jam open for the Rolling Stones two nights in a row.

    They played Evolution both nights and we recorded an old-school bootleg with a hand-held tape recorder. The faster, cooler live version was all we knew for several months until Yield came out. When we heard the studio version, we weren't just disappointed, we were horrified.

    Time has erased the disappointment but I was always hoping they'd go re-record it, like they did with Even Flow. I tell you, the slower version must not have lasted long after the Yield studio sessions. There's not a single live recording of it at that pace with the exception of the version in "Single Video Theory."
  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    studio is good, but a good live version (aka Chicago II 09) blows it of the f'n water........
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,000
    There's also a build in intensity and aggravation in the studio version that gets lost live.

    This is true to alot of Pearl Jams songs. i think the speed of the songs live kills alot of them.

    But DTE is one song that works better live. I think GTF is not to it's full potential on the album either, the chorus doesnt breakthrough as it could have.
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  • redeyeredeye Posts: 620
    yep, but i like both versions for said reasons, live its a great faster paced rocker
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,948
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    I'm listening through Yield right now, and every other song sounds like it's at the correct pace, but I'm so used to hearing DTE being sped-up live, that it sounds like it's in slow motion on the album. It's almost painful to listen to, although the hallelujah's sound spookier, which is pretty cool.

    I totally, 110% disagree with this! The album version (the vocals in particular) have such an awesome dark, doomy vibe. The live version way too fast. I like being at show when they play it, but I never listen to live versions on bootlegs because the studio version owns them all.

    The version from Monkeywrench Radio is pretty cool because it's sort of mid-tempo....right in the middle of how fast most live version are and how slow the studio version is.
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  • Paul AndrewsPaul Andrews Posts: 2,489
    I think nothingman is way too slow - it needs to be played at the speed of lukin or habit....

    now doesn't that blow your mind...

    I really wouldn't change it at all. :D
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  • CardinalCardinal Posts: 479
    UpSideDown wrote:
    studio is good, but a good live version (aka Chicago II 09) blows it of the f'n water........
    And Toronto 09 kills Chicago 2....I was at both.....Ed is more on fire in Toronto and Mr Mike just kills it.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    It's not.

    90% of all tunes I've heard in concert are played faster than their studio counterparts.


    Studio is where it's at imo. Too much is lost from the music itself, in the transition. There are things that make the live experience better, but tempo and sound quality aren't it.
  • JordyWordyJordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    I love it, it's like a totally different song. It's got a great groove to it.

    And it probably has the most badass vocals Eddie will ever record in his life. The screaming for the second half of the song is incredible.
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