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Why doesnt anyone like Speed of Sound?

vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
edited October 2009 in The Porch
I havent been on the board in quite a while. I am really surprised at the general reception to some of the songs on Backspacer..Seems like most everyone dislikes Speed of Sound. I thought this one would be at the top of most peoples lists. Just curious...what is that you dislike about it?
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  • Oz JammerOz Jammer Posts: 9,858
    I think most people, as well as myself, dislike the way it turned out on the album after hearing it in it's rawest form being played live by Ed at his solo shows, and then on the Ed demo. In my opinion it loses some of it's beauty when played by the whole band.
  • halszka123halszka123 Posts: 1,109
    Why?
    Because it's shitty. The album version is cheapy. Too many instruments without requirement. Overdone.
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  • pj.uw.laurapj.uw.laura Posts: 553
    When Ed sings, "And yet I'm still holding tight," I can't help but picture Olivian Newton John singing Hopelessly Devoted in Grease. Am I the only one?
  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    I LOVE the album version. I like the fact that sounds almost like a jam session.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    halszka123 wrote:
    Why?
    Because it's shitty. The album version is cheapy. Too many instruments without requirement. Overdone.
    I like it much better than the demo. It's really grown on me. You can actually dance to the album version. Its got some backbone.
  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    I like it much better than the demo. It's really grown on me.

    +1 :mrgreen:
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,948
    halszka123 wrote:
    Why?
    Because it's shitty. The album version is cheapy. Too many instruments without requirement. Overdone.

    I agree. I was surprised to see that the album version wasn't just the demo with some strings thrown on. At the time I never have heard The End or Just Breathe from Ed's solo tours so I wasn't sure exactly which songs on BS would have strings. But after hearing the Speed of Sound demo, I was sure that would be one.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    pj.uw.laura wrote:
    When Ed sings, "And yet I'm still holding tight," I can't help but picture Olivian Newton John singing Hopelessly Devoted in Grease. Am I the only one?
    Since the only song I know from her is that 80s exercising music video.. hardly. ;)
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    halszka123 wrote:
    Why?
    Because it's shitty. The album version is cheapy. Too many instruments without requirement. Overdone.

    I agree. I was surprised to see that the album version wasn't just the demo with some strings thrown on. At the time I never have heard The End or Just Breathe from Ed's solo tours so I wasn't sure exactly which songs on BS would have strings. But after hearing the Speed of Sound demo, I was sure that would be one.
    The demo is boring.. like Thumbing My Way and Come Back.. the album version is a great bar song!.. my opinion.
  • SpinTheBlackCircle74SpinTheBlackCircle74 Posts: 1,394
    I love Speed Of Sound and I think the album version is better than the demo.
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Where would one get these demos you speak of?
  • SteveoSteveo Posts: 352
    pj.uw.laura wrote:
    When Ed sings, "And yet I'm still holding tight," I can't help but picture Olivian Newton John singing Hopelessly Devoted in Grease. Am I the only one?


    Ha, I can see it.

    for me, Supersonic is a little lackluster, and when Speed of Sound starts after, It seems like its going to be a good slow PJ tune and pick the album back up, but it never gets there.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,948
    vaggar99 wrote:
    Where would one get these demos you speak of?

    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XF7GGNTV
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  • grizahamgrizaham Nashville, TN Posts: 340
    Its simple..
    People really love to hate and complain.
    It makes them feel important and better about themselves.

    SOS is a great song!
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  • solace23solace23 Posts: 704
    love the demo love the version on the album.
  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    vaggar99 wrote:
    Where would one get these demos you speak of?

    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XF7GGNTV

    excellent, thanks
  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    vaggar99 wrote:
    Where would one get these demos you speak of?

    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XF7GGNTV

    Oh, forgot to ask..are there more demos/bsides from Backspacer out there? I'm greedy, you see.
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    Because we are all too used to the much better demo version.
  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    vaggar99 wrote:
    I havent been on the board in quite a while. I am really surprised at the general reception to some of the songs on Backspacer..Seems like most everyone dislikes Speed of Sound. I thought this one would be at the top of most peoples lists. Just curious...what is that you dislike about it?

    Of the three slow songs it is the one I like the best. I am not feeling the slow songs on this record. I always skip them. I like the drumming on "Speed of Sound". The lyrics to "The End" hit pretty close to home (according to my interpretation) which makes it hard to listen to based on what's going on in my life right now.

    I like the rocking songs. I think "Force of Nature" might be their best song since "Do the Evolution". Great song.
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  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    This song is great, in demo form and on the album. F the haters...
  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    vaggar99 wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    vaggar99 wrote:
    Where would one get these demos you speak of?

    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XF7GGNTV

    Oh, forgot to ask..are there more demos/bsides from Backspacer out there? I'm greedy, you see.

    Everyone has the demo because it was given away free with the "find the cover images" promotion.
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  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Brisk. wrote:
    Because we are all too used to the much better demo version.

    just listened to the demo (thanks Ledbetterman). Quite nice. I can see how that version might have gotten your hopes real high. We'll see which one I end up liking better. A great song, no matter how its arranged in my opinion. This is the PJ song I've been waiting for since after No Code came out
  • bettieleebettielee Posts: 74
    I am not among the connected... I never heard the song before Backspacer and I love it. I love the lyrics. I cried the first time I heard it.
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    i like it.
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  • DiRtyFranK38DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    i love it
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  • EquallyWorthlessEquallyWorthless Posts: 3,993
    arq wrote:
    I LOVE the album version. I like the fact that sounds almost like a jam session.


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  • LloydChristmasLloydChristmas Posts: 224
    I love this song...one of my favorite in a while. I'm surprised to see this thread.
  • PresentlyAlivePresentlyAlive Posts: 246
    Because the title should have been Speed of Snails! The song just puts me to sleep. Can you imagine what this song will do to the pace of a concert when it is played live. I mean, talk about slamming on the brakes! Plus, I hate country, and it reminds me of a country song. Way to much twang for me. Easily my least favorite Pearl Jam song in a while.
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  • AmphibyusAmphibyus Posts: 79
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    the album version is a great bar song!.. [/quote]

    yeah, then I'd have one more excuse to drown my sorrows
  • GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    Sounds like a Neil Diamond song to me... Goes on my very short list of pj songs I skip...
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