ACL Live Webcast?

annenomiesannenomies Posts: 165
edited October 2009 in The Porch
checked out their site - why isn't Pearl Jam being webcasted? That stinks!
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  • IndyDaveIndyDave Posts: 252
    We can only hope they change their mind today. PLEASE guys!!

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  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,079
    annenomies wrote:
    checked out their site - why isn't Pearl Jam being webcasted? That stinks!
    because they don't want to be censored again like at Lolla
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  • DragonsAfter3or4DragonsAfter3or4 Bluegrass Posts: 339
    LukinFan wrote:
    annenomies wrote:
    checked out their site - why isn't Pearl Jam being webcasted? That stinks!
    because they don't want to be censored again like at Lolla

    That's the only excuse anyone comes up with around here. Maybe they just don't want it out there.
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 94,322
    LukinFan wrote:
    annenomies wrote:
    checked out their site - why isn't Pearl Jam being webcasted? That stinks!
    because they don't want to be censored again like at Lolla

    That's the only excuse anyone comes up with around here. Maybe they just don't want it out there.

    Here is the answer & only answer you will get:

    http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2007 ... al-net.ars

    Pearl Jam censored by AT&T, calls for a neutral 'Net
    After a pair of political Pearl Jam lyrics are censored on an AT&T webcast, the group publicly calls for network neutrality. AT&T says that's not the issue.

    By Nate Anderson | Last updated August 9, 2007 12:42 PM CTText Size Print this articleLeave a commentA bit of heavy-handed censorship of a Pearl Jam concert by AT&T this weekend led the band to fire off an open letter to fans—a letter in which Pearl Jam railed against media and ISP consolidation and called for readers to support network neutrality.

    The incident happened during a Lollapalooza webcast over at AT&T's "Blue Room" media showcase. Pearl Jam's performance of their big 90's hit "Daughter" morphed into the melody from Pink Floyd's "The Wall," and Eddie Vedder served up a pair of anti-Bush lyrics to the tune. "George Bush, leave this world alone," he sang. "George Bush, find yourself another home."

    Fans at the event got to hear the words in all their glory, but in the webcast, the lines were censored—AT&T made the decision to silence them, apparently believing that they would prove offensive to listeners. When Pearl Jam found out about the censorship, the band posted a strongly-worded message on its web site.

    "This, of course, troubles us as artists but also as citizens concerned with the issue of censorship and the increasingly consolidated control of the media," wrote the band. "What happened to us this weekend was a wake-up call, and it's about something much bigger than the censorship of a rock band."

    In Pearl Jam's view, it's a wake-up call for network neutrality advocates. The same sort of censorship could take place on any Internet content, and what could be done about it an a world where the only real option is... the cable company?

    The fallout
    Public interest groups agree and are already chiming in on the incident. Public Knowledge points out all the ways that AT&T has gotten into the content filtering business. "AT&T is really getting into its role as content nanny in a big way. First, it starts monitoring all sorts of conversations for the National Security Agency," writes Art Brodsky. "Then it promises to work with the movie studios and NBC to come up with some super software to tag copyrighted material that flows through its network, regardless of how that content is used. Now it puts 'content monitors' on its Webcasts."

    Save the Internet, a vocal proponent of network neutrality in DC, sent a statement to Ars that reads, in part, "The moral of this story is put Net Neutrality permanently into law and never trust AT&T at their word. The company acts in bad faith toward the public interest and will do whatever it can to pad it's bottom line—including sacrificing its users' freedom to choose where they go, what they watch, and whom they listen to online."

    AT&T sees things a bit, well, differently. Company spokesperson Brad Mays tells Ars Technica that the company does monitor broadcasts for profanity, as Blue Room is available to all ages, but that the censorship was a "mistake by a webcast vendor and contrary to our policy. We have policies in place with respect to editing excessive profanity, but AT&T does not edit or censor performances."

    The company especially objects to making this incident part of a larger rallying cry for network neutrality, and we can see their point. This wasn't the company monitoring, degrading, or censoring someone else's content flowing across its IP networks; it was an act of content censorship of AT&T's own programming. It's much like the censorship that routinely takes place on television, and "network neutrality" enters the picture only because this particular show was streamed over the 'Net.

    But as the Internet becomes a vital communications pipe into the home, network neutrality and traditional concerns over media concentration are becoming intertwined. FCC Commissioner Michael Copps recently drew a parallel between media consolidation and network neutrality because both traditional media and Internet access lines are increasingly owned by a few massive corporations. Given that level of control, Copps believes that safeguards are needed to make sure that people can continue to access a wide variety of viewpoints and information.

    Pearl Jam appears to feel the same way. "AT&T's actions strike at the heart of the public's concerns over the power that corporations have when it comes to determining what the public sees and hears through communications media," they write.
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,079
    LukinFan wrote:
    annenomies wrote:
    checked out their site - why isn't Pearl Jam being webcasted? That stinks!
    because they don't want to be censored again like at Lolla

    That's the only excuse anyone comes up with around here. Maybe they just don't want it out there.
    doubt it's just an excuse. Since Lolla and ACL are ran by the same company, I'm assuming they will be using the AT&t blue room again to broadcast it on the net- why would they want to take a chance again of being censored?
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  • mrshock13mrshock13 Posts: 472
    I still believe there is a possibility of the band's performance being shown. I've been following a good amount of the show online this weekend, and the listed acts to be shown have only matched what has actually been shown a handful of times. Here's hoping...
  • andrewbandrewb Posts: 488
    You know Ed is gonna say something about how not everybody from Texas is an asshole
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