interesting quote from Ben-Gurion about jewish terrorism
Pepe Silvia
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reading Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict by Norman Finkelstein and found these quotes by David Ben-Gurion (Israel's first PM) and a British MP concerning jewish terrorism against the British very, very interesting:
Ben-Gurion after the British imposed martial law after all the terrorist attacks like the King David Hotel bombing:
hmmmmmmmm and yet this is exactly what they do to the Palestinians, isn't it??
from an MP:
oh, you don't say?? i wonder why they seemed to have lost this point through the years?
Ben-Gurion on the original partition:
Ben-Gurion in a letter to his son:
interesting, seems like stealing land was always their objective.....
Ben-Gurion after the British imposed martial law after all the terrorist attacks like the King David Hotel bombing:
"250,00 Jews of Tel Aviv and suburbs, core of country's social and industrial life, and 30,000 Jews in Jerusalem, mostly working-class quarters, isolated from all normal contact with outside world, facing complete breakdown of mechanism civilized life apart from food supplies and skeleton medical service. Industry crippled, trade paralyzed, unemployment threatening to become catastrophic. Industrial raw materials cannot enter, goods manufactured with available stock cannot be marketed outside. Workers cut off from places of work, children from schools. These restrictions have not affected terrorists nor stopped their outrages but instead have increased resentment of hard-hit population, created fertile soil for terrorist propaganda, frustrating community's attempt to combat terrorism by itself. Martial Law absolutely futile and senseless unless really meant to punish whole community, ruin its economy and destroy the foundation of the Jewish National Home."
hmmmmmmmm and yet this is exactly what they do to the Palestinians, isn't it??
from an MP:
"Jewish terrorism is winning popular support as perfectly decent Jews in Palesting cannot help somehow admiring the terrorists and even assisting them when they seek refuge in thier houses....the only means to fight Jewish terrorism is to remove the legitimate grievances of every Jew in Palestine and to state objectively the historical causes for the growth of this beastly phenomenon in a decent people. Were the British to do this they could rely on the support of moderate elements in suppressing terrorism and i believe the majority of the population would turn against the extremists. If, however, the British ignore the reasons behind Jewish support for terrorism and simply demand the replacement of the Jewish Agency by another organization and the disarming of the Jewish resitance it will merely provoke the Jews into a fanatacal support of the extremists."
oh, you don't say?? i wonder why they seemed to have lost this point through the years?
Ben-Gurion on the original partition:
"The Jewish state now being offered to us is not the Zionist objective. Within this area it is not possible to solve the Jewish question. But it can serve as a decisive stage along the path to greater Zionist implementation. It will consolidate in Palestine, within the shortest possible time, the real Jewish force which will lead us to our historic goal."
Ben-Gurion in a letter to his son:
"The Jewish state will have an outstanding army - I have no doubt that our army will be among the world's outstanding - and so I am certain that we won't be constrained from settling the rest of the country, whether out of accord and mutual understanding with the Arab neighbors or otherwise."
interesting, seems like stealing land was always their objective.....
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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"When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." - Raphael Eitan, IDF Chief of Staff
“The Palestinians will be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls.”—Israeli Prime Minister (at the time), Yitzhak Shamir
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Amazing what you can get away with when you have the U.S media spin machine on your side.
I think you guys can intellectually whack each other off for being the supreme moral authority on the Israel-Palestine conflict using PMs, no? There's really no need to call people out in this thread for failing to comment.
I wouldn't get discouraged at the fact there are no replies. anyone that reads the initial post would have to be blind not to see the parallels. so sickening.
LOL. I am not jlew. For proof, read my recent posts in the other Israel thread. Just saying that a lack of responses does not mean that everyone else has been brutally shut down: There's still another perspective worth hearing. I think the so-called "pro-Isreal" crowd has given up and gone away, not because of defeat in the realm of debate, but simply because they have given up arguing the same points over and over again. No one is listening to their views.
I don't always like how these guys argue their points (e.g., Brynzie, outlaw ... Scout is pretty respectful, mind you, at least to me), but I suppose that the message shouldn't be lost in the rhetoric. I do believe they are right on a basic level: A peaceful solution is up to the Israelis.