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Difference between Rats & Rats(Ben)?

LiteTheMatchLiteTheMatch Posts: 1,208
edited October 2009 in The Porch
Can someone please explain the difference?


Thanks
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It said "Life is nothing but a dream."
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To find I'd known this all along.
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  • october22october22 Posts: 2,533
    I have no idea what you are talking about. Are you talking about how Ed says the name "Ben" in the song?

    That's a reference to the film called "Ben" about a boy and his pet rat. A funny side note is that this film is a sequel to "Willard" which was nominated for the Eddie award in Best Edited Feature Film at the 1972 American Cinema Editors Awards (Wikipedia rules).
  • GoatboyGoatboy Posts: 509
    i dunno, i saw it on the setlist. did the rats they played the other night have more of a "ben" ending to it than usual. referring to the michael jackson song.
  • october22october22 Posts: 2,533
    oh from a setlist? that's pretty cool. didn't know about that. that would be funny as hell if they covered the michael jackson theme song
  • i shit and i stinki shit and i stink Posts: 1,122
    october22 wrote:
    oh from a setlist? that's pretty cool. didn't know about that. that would be funny as hell if they covered the michael jackson theme song

    The end of the song is "Ben the two of us need look no more", taken from the Michael Jackson song. Apparently, Jeff used to cry when he heard the song when he was young. He told Ed and Ed tagged that onto the end of Rats as a reference to it. I guess now Jacko has passed they are using the ending as more of a tag.
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  • LiteTheMatchLiteTheMatch Posts: 1,208
    http://www.pearljam.com/song/ben



    But doesn't Eddie usually sing the Ben line in Rats?

    I guess I'll have to wait to hear the bootlegs.
    A child's rhyme stuck in my head...
    It said "Life is nothing but a dream."
    I've spent so many years in question
    To find I'd known this all along.
  • embraceembrace Posts: 849
    i shit and i stink wrote:
    october22 wrote:
    oh from a setlist? that's pretty cool. didn't know about that. that would be funny as hell if they covered the michael jackson theme song

    The end of the song is "Ben the two of us need look no more", taken from the Michael Jackson song. Apparently, Jeff used to cry when he heard the song when he was young. He told Ed and Ed tagged that onto the end of Rats as a reference to it. I guess now Jacko has passed they are using the ending as more of a tag.

    ok- if that is true, I love jeff even more...that was the one tune I played over and over even though I had to sneak into my sister's room to get the album.
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  • YieldToNothingYieldToNothing Posts: 3,667
    maybe ed played th first few notes of ben on the guitar before rats?
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  • PJammer4lifePJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,657
    YieldToNothing wrote:
    maybe ed played th first few notes of ben on the guitar before rats?

    That's exactly what happened.....
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    embrace wrote:
    i shit and i stink wrote:
    october22 wrote:
    oh from a setlist? that's pretty cool. didn't know about that. that would be funny as hell if they covered the michael jackson theme song

    The end of the song is "Ben the two of us need look no more", taken from the Michael Jackson song. Apparently, Jeff used to cry when he heard the song when he was young. He told Ed and Ed tagged that onto the end of Rats as a reference to it. I guess now Jacko has passed they are using the ending as more of a tag.

    ok- if that is true, I love jeff even more...that was the one tune I played over and over even though I had to sneak into my sister's room to get the album.

    never heard that before. I know ed said his first favorite band was the jackson 5, so i assumed that the Jacko reference was more b/c of ed...
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  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    YieldToNothing wrote:
    maybe ed played th first few notes of ben on the guitar before rats?

    Yeah he did at the O2 arena show in London - the same place where Jackson would have been in the middle of his residency when PJ played. Ed messed it up, but it was a touching tribute all the same, and the end 'Ben the two of us....' part was pretty powerful.
  • LeatherMosquitoManLeatherMosquitoMan Posts: 4,034
    PJammer4life wrote:
    YieldToNothing wrote:
    maybe ed played th first few notes of ben on the guitar before rats?

    That's exactly what happened.....

    And the rest was exactly like the album
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  • i shit and i stinki shit and i stink Posts: 1,122
    “At an early age, I realized music was a very powerful thing,” Jeff told Bass Player in 1994. “I’d hear Michael Jackson singing [1972's] “Ben” and it would make me cry and I’d have to go hide.”
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