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Force of Nature lyrics

Spot In The SkySpot In The Sky Posts: 1,175
edited October 2009 in Words and Music...Communication
"Wonderland pulling Alice in the hole"

This is pretty much the only mention of the female in this song.
Could "wonderland" be whats pulling the woman away from the man?
Meaning- is wonderland the "grass is always greener" kinda thing?
"The world is dangerous, feel safe here tonight..." EV 9/17/06

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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    The full line is actually "No Wonderland pulling Alice in the hole" ... and I think, strangely enough, it's referring to the man in this song.

    The song is about a man who loves a woman with a drug problem or some other such issue. In Alice in Wonderland, Alice takes a drug that allows her to go to Wonderland. I think what the "no Wonderland" line in FON is saying is that the man can't bring himself to follow her ... he doesn't want to get dragged down, too. All he can do is wait by the shore and wait for her to come home. He will be the rock when she decides to come back, but he can't go after her.

    Or something like that.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    Yea, she's being pulled, he's trying to pull her back, and she just lets go of the rope. How do you save someone who doesn't want to be saved? Anyone who has every loved someone who struggles with self-destructive tendencies or addiction can relate. Until she's ready to help herself, he will wait for her faithfully.
    I smile, but who am I kidding...
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Posts: 7,265
    When I originally read/listened to the song it reminded me of a superhero librarian I created, Bibliobella, and her lover, Paolo. He is her rock, and even though they both time travel, she is the passionate one and may make impulsive decisions even if it means her death, as long a she kills her archenemy in the process. http://inspiredpoetrysubmission.blogspot.com/2007/06/bibliobella-before-beginning.html

    So, I really like this story. I didn't realize when I read the lyrics that it was about addiction. I thought it was two passionate people.
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  • Spot In The SkySpot In The Sky Posts: 1,175
    I dont know if youre right that the line is "No wonderland pulling..."
    Because in the lyrics book the word "No" is on a different line, right after a comma, so I think its referring to the statement before it- the common man he dont stand a chance

    Im not saying youre right or wrong- but is it possible the the word No is part of a different line therefore having the opposite meaning of what youre saying?
    "The world is dangerous, feel safe here tonight..." EV 9/17/06

    38+6 shows at the age of 27 and counting...but still no Undone

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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,410
    You're ^^^ right. The "no" is attached to the previous line.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Spot In The Sky wrote:
    I dont know if youre right that the line is "No wonderland pulling..."
    Because in the lyrics book the word "No" is on a different line, right after a comma, so I think its referring to the statement before it- the common man he dont stand a chance

    Im not saying youre right or wrong- but is it possible the the word No is part of a different line therefore having the opposite meaning of what youre saying?

    I suppose it could be ... but Ed frequently bleeds one line into another that way.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • Backspacer_BackerBackspacer_Backer Posts: 1,023
    Ed said this is pretty straightforward - its about when one person in a relationship is straying - either in the sense of infidelity or some sort of substance addiction, and the other is standing strong, trying to wait it out and be there for, in this case, "her".

    but she won't take the rope.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Backspacer_Backer wrote:
    Ed said this is pretty straightforward - its about when one person in a relationship is straying - either in the sense of infidelity or some sort of substance addiction, and the other is standing strong, trying to wait it out and be there for, in this case, "her".

    but she won't take the rope.

    Right. Isn't that what I said?

    Or are you just speaking generally?
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • idrapridrapr Posts: 66
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Spot In The Sky wrote:
    I dont know if youre right that the line is "No wonderland pulling..."
    Because in the lyrics book the word "No" is on a different line, right after a comma, so I think its referring to the statement before it- the common man he dont stand a chance

    Im not saying youre right or wrong- but is it possible the the word No is part of a different line therefore having the opposite meaning of what youre saying?

    I suppose it could be ... but Ed frequently bleeds one line into another that way.

    A perfect example is on Wish List.

    "I wish I was the sentimental ornament you hung on the Christmas Tree, I wish I was the star that went on top".

    Christmas tree being to "no". You can pick it up much easier on Wish List but I think its the same thing where the "no" applies to both statements.
  • Spot In The SkySpot In The Sky Posts: 1,175
    idrapr wrote:
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Spot In The Sky wrote:
    I dont know if youre right that the line is "No wonderland pulling..."
    Because in the lyrics book the word "No" is on a different line, right after a comma, so I think its referring to the statement before it- the common man he dont stand a chance

    Im not saying youre right or wrong- but is it possible the the word No is part of a different line therefore having the opposite meaning of what youre saying?

    I suppose it could be ... but Ed frequently bleeds one line into another that way.

    A perfect example is on Wish List.

    "I wish I was the sentimental ornament you hung on the Christmas Tree, I wish I was the star that went on top".

    Christmas tree being to "no". You can pick it up much easier on Wish List but I think its the same thing where the "no" applies to both statements.

    ...thats pretty good...cant argue with that.
    "The world is dangerous, feel safe here tonight..." EV 9/17/06

    38+6 shows at the age of 27 and counting...but still no Undone

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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Do come down
    with the living, let
    what is living love
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Posts: 7,265
    I still don't feel the addiction in the song.

    If a woman was *called up* to war how would the song look different? I still think it's a love song of two passionate people doing their thing, who probably have exchanged the activity/waiting scenario between themselves numerous times. It's the man's time to wait, and they both expect that she will return.
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    I still don't feel the addiction in the song.

    Then Ed must not have done a very good job. Because that's what he says it's about.

    “It's about the strength of one person in the relationship, when they can withstand some of the faults in another – maybe drug addiction, or straying off the path. The person in the song is the lighthouse for the other person caught in the storm.”

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/art ... le1290301/

    It still can be read as a love song, I suppose. The man in the song is hoping (against hope, maybe) that love will be enough to save her.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • prezesprezes Posts: 34
    It reminds me of times when I was so deep in love with a woman I could forgive anything...
    Makes me ache now...
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