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so Force of Nature & Speed of Sound are getting ignored live

StuffnJunkStuffnJunk Posts: 896
edited September 2009 in The Porch
was gonna make a thread last week - "Which Backspacer songs do you think will be most/least played live"

looks like that question has already been answered after 3 shows

Fixer & Got Some are like the Severed Hand of the new album - most played

Force of Nature and Speed of Sound are like Army Reserve - least played (not played at all yet), and then probably never played again after this tour (assuming they will get played at all)

hopefully they won't be like No Way....or we will have to wait until the year 2020 to really hear them in concert!!!
"I'll tell you what: If all I had was Pearl Jam, and I didn't have another band in the world, I would not be worried. Because in there is the essence of making great music. You don't have to use it all at once, but it's there." - Neil Young
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  • force-10force-10 Posts: 794
    We will probably get surprised in LA. I really want to hear force of nature live. It's the heaviest song in the new album, in my opinion. But every song is great, and I love the way they play them live.
    IN THE DARK, ALL CATS ARE BLACK.
  • 37pheet37pheet Posts: 433
    i kinda like that cause they make you yearn for it. when peps go to shows the anticaption(spelling) of what is gonna be played is half the fun. everyone knows yellaleadbetta will be played and other staples, but sometimes they throw out some nice gems, which mah=kes the show that much more awesome
  • ReachingForThinAirReachingForThinAir Posts: 184
    edited September 2009
    last 2 songs to creep into my psyche.

    altho Speed is wandering in.

    ...with it's Rundgrenesque middle parts.

    lovely.
    Post edited by ReachingForThinAir on
    WOOT!
  • PearlJamPatriotPearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    I was happy as hell that I heard 9 of the 11 songs in Seattle. I really did want to hear Force Of Nature though.
    Pearl Jam Shows: 1998 - 9/11 New York, NY (MSG night 2); 9/13 Hartford, CT || 2000 - 8/24 Wantagh, NY (Jones Beach 2); 8/27 Saratoga Springs; 8/29 Mansfield, MA (night 1); 8/30 Mansfield, MA (night 2) || 2003 - 4/29 Albany, NY; 5/3 State College, PA; 7/2 Mansfield (night 1); 7/6 Camden, NJ (night 2); 7/8 New York, NY (MSG night 1) || 2004 - 9/28 Boston, MA (night 1); 9/29 Boston, MA (night 2) || 2005 - 10/3 Philadelphia, PA || 2006 - 5/12 Albany, NY; 5/13 Hartford, CT; 5/24 Boston, MA (night 1); 5/25 Boston, MA (night 2); 5/27 Camden, NJ (night 1); 5/28 Camden, NJ (night 2)|| 2008 - 6/19 Camden, NJ (night 1); 6/24 New York, NY (MSG night 1); 6/25 New York, NY (MSG night 2); 6/27 Hartford, CT; 6/28 Mansfield, MA (night 1); 6/30 Mansfield, MA (night 2); 7/1 New York, NY (Beacon Theater)|| 2009 - 9/21 Seattle, WA (night 1); 9/22 Seattle, WA (night 2); 10/27 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 1); 10/28 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 2); 10/30 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 3); 10/31 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 4)|| 2010 - 5/15 Hartford, CT; 5/17 Boston, MA; 5/20 New York, NY (MSG night 1); 5/21 New York, NY (MSG night 2)|| 2011 - 9/3 East Troy, WI (PJ20); 9/4 East Troy, WI (PJ20) || 2012 - 9/2 Philadelphia, PA, 9/30 Missoula, MT || 2013 - 7/19 Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), 10/12 Buffalo, NY, 10/15 Worcester, MA (night 1), 10/16 Worcester, MA (night 2), 10/18 Brooklyn, NY (night 1), 10/19 Brooklyn, NY (night 2), 10/25 Hartford, CT || 2014 - 10/22 Denver, CO || 2015 -  9/26 New York, NY (Global Citizen Festival) || 2016 - 5/1 New York, NY (night 1), 5/2 New York, NY (night 2), 8/5 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 1), 8/7 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 2) || 2018 - 9/2 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 1) || 2020 - 3/30 New York, NY
    Eddie Vedder solo: 2008 - Boston night 1 & 2 || 2009 - Albany, NY night 1 & 2 || 2011 - Hartford, CT, Boston, MA

  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Johnny Guitar 3, Force of Nature 0.

    Ed, the setlist maker, has some terrible taste in music. :D:D:D
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • PearlJamPatriotPearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    I actually started to like Johnny Guitar after I heard it live. I especially love the way he sings these verses:

    I hide my disappointment cause for years I have been hoping
    That when she came she'd be coming just for me...

    I hide my disappointment cause for years I have been hoping
    That when she came she'd be coming just for me... ah yeah!
    Pearl Jam Shows: 1998 - 9/11 New York, NY (MSG night 2); 9/13 Hartford, CT || 2000 - 8/24 Wantagh, NY (Jones Beach 2); 8/27 Saratoga Springs; 8/29 Mansfield, MA (night 1); 8/30 Mansfield, MA (night 2) || 2003 - 4/29 Albany, NY; 5/3 State College, PA; 7/2 Mansfield (night 1); 7/6 Camden, NJ (night 2); 7/8 New York, NY (MSG night 1) || 2004 - 9/28 Boston, MA (night 1); 9/29 Boston, MA (night 2) || 2005 - 10/3 Philadelphia, PA || 2006 - 5/12 Albany, NY; 5/13 Hartford, CT; 5/24 Boston, MA (night 1); 5/25 Boston, MA (night 2); 5/27 Camden, NJ (night 1); 5/28 Camden, NJ (night 2)|| 2008 - 6/19 Camden, NJ (night 1); 6/24 New York, NY (MSG night 1); 6/25 New York, NY (MSG night 2); 6/27 Hartford, CT; 6/28 Mansfield, MA (night 1); 6/30 Mansfield, MA (night 2); 7/1 New York, NY (Beacon Theater)|| 2009 - 9/21 Seattle, WA (night 1); 9/22 Seattle, WA (night 2); 10/27 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 1); 10/28 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 2); 10/30 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 3); 10/31 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 4)|| 2010 - 5/15 Hartford, CT; 5/17 Boston, MA; 5/20 New York, NY (MSG night 1); 5/21 New York, NY (MSG night 2)|| 2011 - 9/3 East Troy, WI (PJ20); 9/4 East Troy, WI (PJ20) || 2012 - 9/2 Philadelphia, PA, 9/30 Missoula, MT || 2013 - 7/19 Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), 10/12 Buffalo, NY, 10/15 Worcester, MA (night 1), 10/16 Worcester, MA (night 2), 10/18 Brooklyn, NY (night 1), 10/19 Brooklyn, NY (night 2), 10/25 Hartford, CT || 2014 - 10/22 Denver, CO || 2015 -  9/26 New York, NY (Global Citizen Festival) || 2016 - 5/1 New York, NY (night 1), 5/2 New York, NY (night 2), 8/5 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 1), 8/7 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 2) || 2018 - 9/2 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 1) || 2020 - 3/30 New York, NY
    Eddie Vedder solo: 2008 - Boston night 1 & 2 || 2009 - Albany, NY night 1 & 2 || 2011 - Hartford, CT, Boston, MA

  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    PearlJamPatriot wrote:
    I actually started to like Johnny Guitar after I heard it live. I especially love the way he sings these verses:

    I hide my disappointment cause for years I have been hoping
    That when she came she'd be coming just for me...

    I hide my disappointment cause for years I have been hoping
    That when she came she'd be coming just for me... ah yeah!

    The recorded version has been growing on me, too. Still rather it be played less, and FON played more.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • bettieleebettielee Posts: 74
    I love Speed of Sound... I can't wait for the new bootlegs, post album release. I can't wait to hear these songs LIVE!!!!
  • PearlJamPatriotPearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    slightofjeff wrote:
    PearlJamPatriot wrote:
    I actually started to like Johnny Guitar after I heard it live. I especially love the way he sings these verses:

    I hide my disappointment cause for years I have been hoping
    That when she came she'd be coming just for me...

    I hide my disappointment cause for years I have been hoping
    That when she came she'd be coming just for me... ah yeah!

    The recorded version has been growing on me, too. Still rather it be played less, and FON played more.
    Oh definitely. FON was the song I wanted to hear the most in Seattle. Hopefully I get to hear it in Philly though.
    Pearl Jam Shows: 1998 - 9/11 New York, NY (MSG night 2); 9/13 Hartford, CT || 2000 - 8/24 Wantagh, NY (Jones Beach 2); 8/27 Saratoga Springs; 8/29 Mansfield, MA (night 1); 8/30 Mansfield, MA (night 2) || 2003 - 4/29 Albany, NY; 5/3 State College, PA; 7/2 Mansfield (night 1); 7/6 Camden, NJ (night 2); 7/8 New York, NY (MSG night 1) || 2004 - 9/28 Boston, MA (night 1); 9/29 Boston, MA (night 2) || 2005 - 10/3 Philadelphia, PA || 2006 - 5/12 Albany, NY; 5/13 Hartford, CT; 5/24 Boston, MA (night 1); 5/25 Boston, MA (night 2); 5/27 Camden, NJ (night 1); 5/28 Camden, NJ (night 2)|| 2008 - 6/19 Camden, NJ (night 1); 6/24 New York, NY (MSG night 1); 6/25 New York, NY (MSG night 2); 6/27 Hartford, CT; 6/28 Mansfield, MA (night 1); 6/30 Mansfield, MA (night 2); 7/1 New York, NY (Beacon Theater)|| 2009 - 9/21 Seattle, WA (night 1); 9/22 Seattle, WA (night 2); 10/27 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 1); 10/28 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 2); 10/30 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 3); 10/31 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 4)|| 2010 - 5/15 Hartford, CT; 5/17 Boston, MA; 5/20 New York, NY (MSG night 1); 5/21 New York, NY (MSG night 2)|| 2011 - 9/3 East Troy, WI (PJ20); 9/4 East Troy, WI (PJ20) || 2012 - 9/2 Philadelphia, PA, 9/30 Missoula, MT || 2013 - 7/19 Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), 10/12 Buffalo, NY, 10/15 Worcester, MA (night 1), 10/16 Worcester, MA (night 2), 10/18 Brooklyn, NY (night 1), 10/19 Brooklyn, NY (night 2), 10/25 Hartford, CT || 2014 - 10/22 Denver, CO || 2015 -  9/26 New York, NY (Global Citizen Festival) || 2016 - 5/1 New York, NY (night 1), 5/2 New York, NY (night 2), 8/5 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 1), 8/7 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 2) || 2018 - 9/2 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 1) || 2020 - 3/30 New York, NY
    Eddie Vedder solo: 2008 - Boston night 1 & 2 || 2009 - Albany, NY night 1 & 2 || 2011 - Hartford, CT, Boston, MA

  • PJammin'PJammin' Posts: 1,902
    force of nature is a MASTERPIECE. mccready writes some amazing songs. nice job, mike! also, don't you people know that they break out the special songs in san diego. ;) oh, and eddie's lyrics aren't too shabby either. somebody sign that boy to a contract. :D
    I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
  • JUKINJUKIN Posts: 102
    glad somebody spoke up. noticed it too, maybe they are saving those songs for when they get burnt out playing fixer and got some.....
    jukin
  • ShawshankShawshank Posts: 1,018
    I know many people here have said SOS is better on the album vs. the demo, but man I just can't get into it. It's like they had a good thing with the demo, and just said "hey let's throw a drum track on top of that, and how about some piano". It just seems a little out of place, and kind of a mess. It may be that I just listened to the demo so much that I became accustomed to that version.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Shawshank wrote:
    I know many people here have said SOS is better on the album vs. the demo, but man I just can't get into it. It's like they had a good thing with the demo, and just said "hey let's throw a drum track on top of that, and how about some piano". It just seems a little out of place, and kind of a mess. It may be that I just listened to the demo so much that I became accustomed to that version.

    Honestly, most people seem to think the demo version is better. By design, I've never heard the demo version ... to the album version sounds great to me.

    This is just another case where avoiding as many songs as possible before the official album release paid off.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    slightofjeff wrote:
    This is just another case where avoiding as many songs as possible before the official album release paid off.


    yep...i listened to it a couple times and then forgot it....i knew the album version would be different so i didn't want to be influenced...and i like the band version better
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    norm wrote:
    slightofjeff wrote:
    This is just another case where avoiding as many songs as possible before the official album release paid off.


    yep...i listened to it a couple times and then forgot it....i knew the album version would be different so i didn't want to be influenced...and i like the band version better

    This might be the same phenomenon that soured so many people on Gone.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • SM10080SM10080 Posts: 239
    PJammin' wrote:
    force of nature is a MASTERPIECE. mccready writes some amazing songs. nice job, mike! also, don't you people know that they break out the special songs in san diego. ;) oh, and eddie's lyrics aren't too shabby either. somebody sign that boy to a contract. :D

    masterpiece? no fucking way. This is a throwaway at best. If you think this is the best song on the album--or worse--one of the best they've made, you are insane.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    SM10080 wrote:
    PJammin' wrote:
    force of nature is a MASTERPIECE. mccready writes some amazing songs. nice job, mike! also, don't you people know that they break out the special songs in san diego. ;) oh, and eddie's lyrics aren't too shabby either. somebody sign that boy to a contract. :D

    masterpiece? no fucking way. This is a throwaway at best. If you think this is the best song on the album--or worse--one of the best they've made, you are insane.

    Throwaway? You're nuts.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • SM10080SM10080 Posts: 239
    slightofjeff wrote:
    SM10080 wrote:
    PJammin' wrote:
    force of nature is a MASTERPIECE. mccready writes some amazing songs. nice job, mike! also, don't you people know that they break out the special songs in san diego. ;) oh, and eddie's lyrics aren't too shabby either. somebody sign that boy to a contract. :D

    masterpiece? no fucking way. This is a throwaway at best. If you think this is the best song on the album--or worse--one of the best they've made, you are insane.

    Throwaway? You're nuts.

    Yeah, PJ is going to be known for 'Force of Nature'. 30 years from now, that song will not be remembered.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    SM10080 wrote:
    Yeah, PJ is going to be known for 'Force of Nature'. 30 years from now, that song will not be remembered.

    Well, Jesus. I think there's a pretty big gulf between "throwaway" and "seminal song of a generation."

    There are a shitload of great Beatles songs that are "throwaways" then. Because most people only remember crap like "I Wanna Hold Your Hand."
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
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