Force of Nature

Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Posts: 7,265
This is it. If I ever get married this would be the song. Two people who are nothing to others find so much between them. I think this is the best love song PJ created. I tell you, there's quite a bit of love on this album, eh?
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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,410
    Yes.
    There is.
    I noticed that too. :geek:
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  • 37pheet37pheet Posts: 433
    muthetruckin' awesome song, man when i 1st heard it i thought this is the best song on the album
  • i love this song too. it was one of the stand out tracks when i first listened to backspacer. such a cool opening to the song
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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,410
    I love the way a person can see the picture of the person on the shore and imagine the sound of the siren and the storm.
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  • From Ed, for anyone who is interested:

    “It's about the strength of one person in the relationship, when they can withstand some of the faults in another – maybe drug addiction, or straying off the path. The person in the song is the lighthouse for the other person caught in the storm.”

    My favorite line in the song has become "the strength you might think would disappear, resolving."

    The guy in the story knows this woman is a fuck-up, and would have every reason to finally say, "Fuck it. Enough. I can't take this anymore. I'm done." Instead, it only makes him love her more. It only seals his resolve to save her, to be her lighthouse.

    Great thought. Great song.

    EDIT: The other thing I kind of like about it, because I can be a cynical bastard, is that the story doesn't neccesarily have a happy ending. It's a cliffhanger. Our man ends the song the same way he begins it, on the shore waiting for this woman to come home. How will it end? "No one can know," Ed says. "But his heart don't seem to roam."
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • Ms. Haiku wrote:
    This is it. If I ever get married this would be the song. Two people who are nothing to others find so much between them. I think this is the best love song PJ created. I tell you, there's quite a bit of love on this album, eh?


    seriously? this seems like a disastrous relationship that is taking place in this song. not sure i would want it to be a song played at my wedding.
  • Ms. Haiku wrote:
    This is it. If I ever get married this would be the song. Two people who are nothing to others find so much between them. I think this is the best love song PJ created. I tell you, there's quite a bit of love on this album, eh?


    seriously? this seems like a disastrous relationship that is taking place in this song. not sure i would want it to be a song played at my wedding.

    I kind of agree with you, but I don't think we really know how this relationship plays out. At the end of the song, we're left with this guy still waiting on the shore. Maybe she comes back safe and sound and stays forever. Maybe she doesn't. We don't know.

    I do think, in a way, the man in the song is a pitiable character. You ever have a friend who is with some guy or girl who is just a mess, in one way or another, and you can't for the life of you figure out why your friend puts up with it? That's what this song reminds me of.

    Maybe Ed is trying to paint that kind of unconditional love as noble. I don't know.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • A great fucking song I hope to hear live. Creeping up as my personal fav.

    Makes me ache,... Makes me shake,...
    Is it so wrong to think that love can keep us safe?

    My favorite part of the song.
  • A great fucking song I hope to hear live. Creeping up as my personal fav.

    Makes me ache,... Makes me shake,...
    Is it so wrong to think that love can keep us safe?

    My favorite part of the song.

    Seriously. They need to play this song. It doesn't need to be the "All or None" of Backspacer. Especially with Johnny Guitar floundering around out there.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • Instantly my first favourite on my initial listening of Backspacer :D

    "No way to save someone who won't take the rope..."

    It's just a beautiful song. It's perfect in every way.

    Such a sad story :( This man has dedicated his everything to her... all for nothing in return.
    This is, this is ... my ... last exit.
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Posts: 7,265
    I don't think the song is about a one-sided relationship. It sounds like the bonds from both sides are strong. They have both taken the rope when presented is how I see it.
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    I don't think the song is about a one-sided relationship. It sounds like the bonds from both sides are strong. They have both taken the rope when presented is how I see it.

    I'm just telling you what Ed said. Blame him. :)
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • RoughMixRoughMix Posts: 385
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    This is it. If I ever get married this would be the song. Two people who are nothing to others find so much between them. I think this is the best love song PJ created. I tell you, there's quite a bit of love on this album, eh?


    seriously? this seems like a disastrous relationship that is taking place in this song. not sure i would want it to be a song played at my wedding.

    I kind of agree with you, but I don't think we really know how this relationship plays out. At the end of the song, we're left with this guy still waiting on the shore. Maybe she comes back safe and sound and stays forever. Maybe she doesn't. We don't know.

    I do think, in a way, the man in the song is a pitiable character. You ever have a friend who is with some guy or girl who is just a mess, in one way or another, and you can't for the life of you figure out why your friend puts up with it? That's what this song reminds me of.

    Maybe Ed is trying to paint that kind of unconditional love as noble. I don't know.
    I'm not sure if she comes back.The guy is standing on the shore "forevermore".
    "They don't give a shit Keith Moon is dead,
    is that exactly what I thought I read."
  • after 10 years of your weddind u should post to tell us what u believe then :)
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  • rearviewrossrearviewross Posts: 3,055
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    This is it. If I ever get married this would be the song. Two people who are nothing to others find so much between them. I think this is the best love song PJ created. I tell you, there's quite a bit of love on this album, eh?


    seriously? this seems like a disastrous relationship that is taking place in this song. not sure i would want it to be a song played at my wedding.

    Hey, people played "Every Breath You Take" at weddings and it is NOT a romantic love song.
    Forced to endure, what I cannot forgive.
  • This song was my originally my least favorite, but it has stayed with me, and I've woken up hearing it a few times. Powerful storyline...

    "All the strength that you might think would disappear, resolving..."

    Doesn't that say it all? We think we know how others will react or behave, but we never do. We assume, we expect, we act based on our assumptions, but we never know what someone else truly feels until they act.
  • Macca.Macca. Posts: 19
    I didn't really notice this one the first couple of listens but then one day in the car I really heard it. It has really grown on me the last few days. Now I know what it's about, it has grown even further. I was in a situation like that once.

    It didn't end the good way though. I moved on.
  • DempsDemps Posts: 102
    I do think, in a way, the man in the song is a pitiable character. You ever have a friend who is with some guy or girl who is just a mess, in one way or another, and you can't for the life of you figure out why your friend puts up with it? That's what this song reminds me of.

    Totally agree. This is their version of "When A Man Loves A Woman". This guy is lost.
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  • prezesprezes Posts: 34
    The best song on Backspacer no doubt. I just hope thay play it in Philly 10/31...
  • VEDHEAD27VEDHEAD27 Posts: 3,091
    God GOOD this song is the jaaaaaaam!!!! *shakes hips*

    I remember my first Backspacer listen...as soon as I got to this badboy it just instantly hooked me and pulled me in! SUCH a groove! Absolutely LOVE IT! And then you open with the lines "understand she's a force of nature" Oh come on!!! It's just too damn good! :D

    I agree that it paints such a vivid picture too!! I love that about it. Really takes you on a journey...you can clearly see it all.
    Makes me ache,... Makes me shake,...
    Is it so wrong to think that love can keep us safe?

    My favorite part of the song.

    Ah I LOVE that part!!!!!! :D!! And then how it just KICKS back in!!!!!! YES YES YES!!!

    The line "a beacon on dry land" = just plain brilliant! LOVE LOVE LOVE!! So much LOVE for everything that is this song!!!!!! SO thrilled to have experienced it LIVE in SD AND PHILLY! The crowd absolutely ate it UP in Philly!!!! Was awesome to see this song getting the kinda reaction it rightfully deserves! :D

    *bows down to THE JAM...it's one HELL of a FORCE*
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    "Lo√e, you know the word
    ...YOU invented it!" ~ E√

    ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤
    ...::STONE--YOU--OWN!::...
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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,410
    VEDHEAD27 wrote:
    God GOOD this song is the jaaaaaaam!!!! *shakes hips*

    I remember my first Backspacer listen...as soon as I got to this badboy it just instantly hooked me and pulled me in! SUCH a groove! Absolutely LOVE IT! And then you open with the lines "understand she's a force of nature" Oh come on!!! It's just too damn good! :D

    I agree that it paints such a vivid picture too!! I love that about it. Really takes you on a journey...you can clearly see it all.
    Makes me ache,... Makes me shake,...
    Is it so wrong to think that love can keep us safe?

    My favorite part of the song.



    Ah I LOVE that part!!!!!! :D!! And then how it just KICKS back in!!!!!! YES YES YES!!!

    The line "a beacon on dry land" = just plain brilliant! LOVE LOVE LOVE!! So much LOVE for everything that is this song!!!!!! SO thrilled to have experienced it LIVE in SD AND PHILLY! The crowd absolutely ate it UP in Philly!!!! Was awesome to see this song getting the kinda reaction it rightfully deserves! :D

    *bows down to THE JAM...it's one HELL of a FORCE*

    I like the way it paints a good picture too. :)
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  • VEDHEAD27VEDHEAD27 Posts: 3,091
    Totally! It actually kinda reminds me of Tremor Christ in that sense...painting a vivid picture, taking you on a journey, a storm at sea. I don't know, they just kinda remind me of each other. They're like siblings in my mind. :P

    This song RULES! Hands down one of my favs to date! I love the way the music and Eddie's voice completely compliment each other...the way his melodies matches the music like they're one. I don't know, I just love it! Also love how it ends with a solo! How cool is that!?!? :D :thumbup:
    ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤

    "Lo√e, you know the word
    ...YOU invented it!" ~ E√

    ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤
    ...::STONE--YOU--OWN!::...
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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,410
    :mrgreen:

    It couldn't be better!!
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  • Ms. Haiku wrote:
    This is it. If I ever get married this would be the song. Two people who are nothing to others find so much between them. I think this is the best love song PJ created. I tell you, there's quite a bit of love on this album, eh?

    here's another good song for a wedding--little depressing though for a mass of people--off the true romance soundtrack



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucWXAZ9Z9Ec
  • this is by far one of my all-time favorite Pearl Jam songs....I simply love everything about it, especially the vivid picture in my head...it's amazing and i can't get enough of it!
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  • just watched the youtube 10/30 performance and man they should play this every night.

    Between this and Speed of Sound backspace has become an hour long record when factoring in my repeats.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    "Understand she's a force of nature
    Contraband hiding deep inside her soul
    Exorcising her will to lose control
    she lets go"
    really like those words
    really like letting go
  • Anyone ever read the Odyssey? Story of Odysseus (or Ulysses)? Read the story of The Sirens.

    What a great great song. i dont see it as being disasterous. its about the strength in love.
  • TJ25487TJ25487 Posts: 1,479
    Bump! Just because this is such an awesome song and should be talked about. I like many different lines and parts but my favorite is the very end "but his heart don't seem to roammmmmmmm!" That part just soars.
  • redeyeredeye Posts: 620
    yea its a great song
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