As D2D said, one's taste in the arts is very subjective. We are all moved and inspired differently. There is a lot of negativity but there is a lot of 'uber-fandom'. You have the 'this album is an absolute masterpiece and let's lynch the guy that writes a poor review' side and you have the 'this album is crap and poppy and poorly constructed - what are you guys on about' side. Seems the extremes bother posting and thus antagonise each other.
Most of us like the album, find some greatness in it, find a few flaws, but overall like it very much. Guess that is not exciting enough to post about!
and some people simply need to realize, musical taste is extrmemely subjective, and we all hear "greatness" in different things, yes....even amongst those who have a shared love for a particular band. it's not difficult to realize this, and try and accept it.
i 'don't get'....why so many continually start new threads on topics that already have about 357 threads in existence already, but that's just me. it's also curious how we have these very SAMe threads, each new album release, tour, etc.....the internet is a predictable place.
enjoy what you enjoy....let's just breathe.......
Everyone is entitled to opinions. It just so happens MY opinion of the new record is the CORRECT one: It's absolutely brilliant.
well goody for you for being so *right*...do you want your gold star now? :roll:
again, enjoy what you enjoy...and let others do the same. no need to "push" your OPINION as fact, b/c it isn't...no matter how many times you type it. beyond which, there are many, many "masterpieces" hanging in museums, lauded by film critics, music charts, etc.....and no matter what "label" one slaps on something, it does NOT mean it will hold true for everyone. we all *get* and enjoy, different things. so basically, you are complaining about negativity or disagreement, and yet...you don't offer any respect opinions outside your own? didn't realize this was simply an "i am right and any who disagree with me is wrong" thread, no wonder you needed to start another, your own, to make this announcement.
As D2D said, one's taste in the arts is very subjective. We are all moved and inspired differently. There is a lot of negativity but there is a lot of 'uber-fandom'. You have the 'this album is an absolute masterpiece and let's lynch the guy that writes a poor review' side and you have the 'this album is crap and poppy and poorly constructed - what are you guys on about' side. Seems the extremes bother posting and thus antagonise each other.
Most of us like the album, find some greatness in it, find a few flaws, but overall like it very much. Guess that is not exciting enough to post about!
what red said.
also, apparently for many if you do not agree it is an 'absolute masterpiece' you are therefore a hater, slagging on the album, etc, etc...instead of merely having your own, reasoned opinion that doesn't outright support the idea of 'masterpiece.'
i just don't get some of the negative shit i've been reading here. i know i could have responded to any number of threads here but, fuck it, i'm starting a new one. i am, like most here, a freak and have been since the beginning. That being said, if i was not a freak, hell, if i wasn't even a fan before, i can honestly and without bias say that after this album i would be an absolute fanatic! Back Spacer is a fucking masterpiece! Everyone is entitled to an opinion, of course, so here's mine: some people need to cleanse their ears and brains of all the shit that passes as music these days and maybe they'll realize that Back Spacer is nothing short of spectacular. Clean 'em out, fuckers! In a world of constant change it's nice to know that at least one thing hasn't changed. Pearl Jam is still the greatest fucking band on earth!
I was disappointed with Binaural and Riot Act when they first came out (I didn't post negative shit here though) and have grown to love both of those albums so I was going to force myself to listen to Backspacer and really let it sink in before I formed an opinion.
This is the first album since Yield that I loved immediately...there are still a few songs that I will skip but overall it is amazing....couldn't be happier
Unthought Known will be considered one of their best ever....beautiful song
A lot of these people will change their minds in a year or so
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
This is a record by men who are mature, happy, and in love, for the most part. They have families and have a much different outlook on life now and this record reflects that. They are firmly ensconced in mid-life and aren't going to sound like they did ten or even five years ago. They know the recording process like the back of their hands and had a great sounding board in Brendan O'Brien.
The White Album sure did not sound like Meet The Beatles, but is was fantastic.
They are still kicking ass live no matter what you think of Backspacer.
All is well.
well goody for you for being so *right*...do you want your gold star now? :roll:
again, enjoy what you enjoy...and let others do the same. no need to "push" your OPINION as fact, b/c it isn't...no matter how many times you type it. beyond which, there are many, many "masterpieces" hanging in museums, lauded by film critics, music charts, etc.....and no matter what "label" one slaps on something, it does NOT mean it will hold true for everyone. we all *get* and enjoy, different things. so basically, you are complaining about negativity or disagreement, and yet...you don't offer any respect opinions outside your own? didn't realize this was simply an "i am right and any who disagree with me is wrong" thread, no wonder you needed to start another, your own, to make this announcement.
As D2D said, one's taste in the arts is very subjective. We are all moved and inspired differently. There is a lot of negativity but there is a lot of 'uber-fandom'. You have the 'this album is an absolute masterpiece and let's lynch the guy that writes a poor review' side and you have the 'this album is crap and poppy and poorly constructed - what are you guys on about' side. Seems the extremes bother posting and thus antagonise each other.
Most of us like the album, find some greatness in it, find a few flaws, but overall like it very much. Guess that is not exciting enough to post about!
what red said.
also, apparently for many if you do not agree it is an 'absolute masterpiece' you are therefore a hater, slagging on the album, etc, etc...instead of merely having your own, reasoned opinion that doesn't outright support the idea of 'masterpiece.'
having a spot of fun. Lighten up, Francis.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
I liked the album just fine after a few listens. But after hearing just about every song live in Seattle, I have a new appreciation. It is on repeat on the iPod and I'm loving it. That's generally how I am with PJ and some other artists. I need to hear the songs on a new album live to fall in love with them. I'm always less impressed with an artist's studio work than I am with their live work. I am firmly in the BACKSPACER IS GREAT camp after the last 2 nights.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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I do like it though!
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Most of us like the album, find some greatness in it, find a few flaws, but overall like it very much. Guess that is not exciting enough to post about!
well goody for you for being so *right*...do you want your gold star now? :roll:
again, enjoy what you enjoy...and let others do the same. no need to "push" your OPINION as fact, b/c it isn't...no matter how many times you type it. beyond which, there are many, many "masterpieces" hanging in museums, lauded by film critics, music charts, etc.....and no matter what "label" one slaps on something, it does NOT mean it will hold true for everyone. we all *get* and enjoy, different things. so basically, you are complaining about negativity or disagreement, and yet...you don't offer any respect opinions outside your own? didn't realize this was simply an "i am right and any who disagree with me is wrong" thread, no wonder you needed to start another, your own, to make this announcement.
carry on...
what red said.
also, apparently for many if you do not agree it is an 'absolute masterpiece' you are therefore a hater, slagging on the album, etc, etc...instead of merely having your own, reasoned opinion that doesn't outright support the idea of 'masterpiece.'
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
not out long enough to be classified either way, especially as a classic.
i mean it's great, don't get me wrong. but Vitalogy, Ten, Yield will always be better IMO.
I was disappointed with Binaural and Riot Act when they first came out (I didn't post negative shit here though) and have grown to love both of those albums so I was going to force myself to listen to Backspacer and really let it sink in before I formed an opinion.
This is the first album since Yield that I loved immediately...there are still a few songs that I will skip but overall it is amazing....couldn't be happier
Unthought Known will be considered one of their best ever....beautiful song
A lot of these people will change their minds in a year or so
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
it's not your art, why the fuck are you taking this to heart, who gives a shit, if you like it, that's all that really matters
it's not the end of the world
The White Album sure did not sound like Meet The Beatles, but is was fantastic.
They are still kicking ass live no matter what you think of Backspacer.
All is well.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
of my innocence... got back my inner sense...
I don't like comparing albums, but I wanna say that Backspacer is more solid from start to finish and better put together than most other PJ albums..
I pretty much like every song on this one and hearing on vinyl for the first time yesterday made it even better!
It IS to early to call anything a classic, but my gut is telling me that this album will get plenty of spins throughout the years!
I bow down to Backspacer and to Pearl Jam
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