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Ten is not that great

darthvedder81darthvedder81 Posts: 688
edited September 2009 in The Porch
I know we've gotten this with every new PJ album released post-Vitalogy but what is everyone's obsession with wanting PJ to recreate Ten? It seems like that mantra is stronger than ever. Other than some of Stone riffs and Mike's leads I don't find Ten to be the band's best. The production (even after the BOB remix) sounds incredibly dated and Ed really hadn't found his voice yet (he sounds like a parody of himself at times.) I like everything the band has done but why should they constantly live under the spectre of recreating something that's almost 20 years old? Even comparing early material I'd say Versus is the better of the two albums. How come no one wants PJ to recreate that?
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  • dislocateddislocated Posts: 599
    I would love a recreation of Vitology!
  • Adm. Glen ScotiaAdm. Glen Scotia Posts: 181
    I don't want PJ to "recreate" *any* album. I just want them to keep doing new stuff. Why revisit something that's already over and done? Yield is my favorite album, but I certainly wouldn't want them to recreate that.
  • Digital TwilightDigital Twilight Posts: 5,642
    Ten is probably my least favourite album but it has some great tracks (obviously)
  • pearljamchrispearljamchris Posts: 282
    i love ten, i love every album pearl jam have done but i dont want them to recreate anything they have done, they have surprised me with the direction they have gone with the last two albums but never dissapointed, i hope they just keep growing and release many many albums in the future!
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  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    I never listen to Ten anymore ... I still appreciate the songs live, but the album itself hasn't aged that well. My opinion ... PJ only went up from there.
  • SpagsSpags Leigh-on-Sea, UK Posts: 3,052
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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Personally, I've NEVER heard anyone (especially here) say they want another TEN.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,555
    ten was a great record

    but I stopped listening to it after the 1,000th spin

    they could retire all of those songs (except release) and I would not be unhappy
  • intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,240
    ten is great because it has so many songs that straight up rock and fill the room with energy.

    I though would like to see the band do something a little off center again like no code.

    that said i think the band just needs to do what they like.
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  • InMyTree4InMyTree4 Posts: 1,239
    this thread came out of left field
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  • deskilladeskilla Posts: 279
    re- create "ten"??? are you out of your mind????
    move on it's BACKSPACER TIME BABY!!!!!!
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    Ten IS great. You may not like it, but that may just mean that you suck.
  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    Ten is still awesome!!!!!!!!!

    all you fucks who bash it to show what a cool, hardcore fan you are......

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  • cannotstaylongcannotstaylong Posts: 668
    I agree that people should stop looking for a remake of Ten, or any album for that matter. However I personally think Ten is quite good. Yes, the production was weak and rushed, but it was a pretty powerful record for a lot of people, myself included. I understand that you may not like it as much now or hold it in the same light. And that's cool enough.
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  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562
    To say that 10 is not that great is Blasphemy!

    My fav album is Vitalogy....and believe it or not, when it first was released, it was not that well liked (for those fans that were around back then you remember)
  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562
    10 can never be "remade" or re-created"

    I bet you Da Vinci coudnt re paint the Mona Lisa !!!!!!
  • Rollingstone123Rollingstone123 Posts: 222
    ten is their worst record, period.
    the new album rocks, period.
    if you want the old shit, go find another band and piss off, you pussies.
  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562
    JLevy423 wrote:
    ten is their worst record, period.
    the new album rocks, period.
    if you want the old shit, go find another band and piss off, you pussies.

    Very intelligent individual we have here. You prob were in diapers, when 10 was the BIGGEST album on the planet!
  • Arocker28Arocker28 Posts: 60
    I'm only 18, and I have to say that I love Ten. I usually feel out of place on these forums because I am so young, but even with my exposure to ten almost 15 years after it was made I say it still fucking rocks. Its not my favorite but I don't see why people have decided to bash it.
  • crazygeocrazygeo Posts: 2,380
    TEN IS NOT GREAT it is a mere classic in Rock and Roll History
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    • 2003-07-05• 2004-10-01
    • 2005-10-03• 2006-05-27
    • 2008-06-19• 2009-10-27 2009-10-28 •2009-10-30
    • 2009-10-31

    *Tres Mts 2011-03-23
    *Eddie Vedder 2011-06-25
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    - 2013=10-22
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    -2016 -04-29
  • darthvedder81darthvedder81 Posts: 688
    InMyTree4 wrote:
    this thread came out of left field

    Not really. Just about every review I've read (either professional or iTunes user) has mentioned how it doesn't measure up to Ten. Even a lot of positive reviews say it. What's the deal? I don't remember that happening as much on Yield-Binaural-Riot Act-Avocado and the new album is considerably more accessible and hook driven than those records. I'm not bashing "Ten" I just don't understand why it's the touchstone for all these people. It wasn't even their most popular seller upon release. Why doesn't anyone bring up the success of Versus or Vitalogy? Vitalogy has PJ's biggest commercial hit on it!
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  • cannotstaylongcannotstaylong Posts: 668
    darthvedder81 wrote:
    InMyTree4 wrote:
    this thread came out of left field

    Not really. Just about every review I've read (either professional or iTunes user) has mentioned how it doesn't measure up to Ten. Even a lot of positive reviews say it. What's the deal? I don't remember that happening as much on Yield-Binaural-Riot Act-Avocado and the new album is considerably more accessible and hook driven than those records. I'm not bashing "Ten" I just don't understand why it's the touchstone for all these people. It wasn't even their most popular seller upon release. Why doesn't anyone bring up the success of Versus or Vitalogy? Vitalogy has PJ's biggest commercial hit on it!

    It wasn't their most popular upon release because no one knew them. Vs. was so successful because Ten was a smash hit. Albums like Vs. and Vitalogy fed off of the huge success of their predecessors. When they ended up being great also... well that only helped.

    You can't use the immediate sales success (or apparent lack thereof) of Ten to justify it not being a great or "touchstone" album.
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  • the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    mach271 wrote:
    JLevy423 wrote:
    ten is their worst record, period.
    the new album rocks, period.
    if you want the old shit, go find another band and piss off, you pussies.

    Very intelligent individual we have here. You prob were in diapers, when 10 was the BIGGEST album on the planet!

    :lol::lol:
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  • HeavyHandsHeavyHands Posts: 2,130
    darthvedder81 wrote:
    I know we've gotten this with every new PJ album released post-Vitalogy but what is everyone's obsession with wanting PJ to recreate Ten?

    Thing is... Gossard and Ament set the bar high for themselves on that one and then there was a change of leadership. Ten is, for all intents and purposes, the Stone Gossard album (yeah, yeah... Porch not withstanding). Every song on Ten could be a single. They are all that catchy. Even the more introspective songs like Black, Oceans, and Release. And they are all good songs.

    Even given this though, I don't think I've ever read anyone say that they want the band to recreate Ten explicitly. Since I can't seem to recall anyone saying this, I either have a poor memory, or many, many people are assuming that this is some kind of unspoken desire by other fans. In my opinion it seems that this ambient aura of "I wish the new album was another Ten" as a standard is kind of made up.

    And I say this as a huge fan of Ten.
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  • stuartrdrstuartrdr Posts: 74
    Ten is a great album. It's just that compared to their other albums, It's not my favorite :)
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    dislocated wrote:
    I would love a recreation of Vitology!

    amen
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  • blondieblue227blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    The times, the atmosphere, the guys ages…….all play into how an album comes out. They can not recreate any of their albums due to those factors.

    Don’t people realize that?
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  • Backspacer 76Backspacer 76 Posts: 963
    JLevy423 wrote:
    ten is their worst record, period.
    the new album rocks, period.
    if you want the old shit, go find another band and piss off, you pussies.
    It`s post`s like this that make me absolutely hate NEW Pearl Jam fans.
    Your profile says your 33.
    You talk like your 15.
  • stuartrdrstuartrdr Posts: 74
    Back Spacer 76 wrote:
    JLevy423 wrote:
    ten is their worst record, period.
    the new album rocks, period.
    if you want the old shit, go find another band and piss off, you pussies.
    It`s post`s like this that make me absolutely hate NEW Pearl Jam fans.
    Your profile says your 33.
    You talk like your 15.

    We're not all like that ;)
  • HeavyHandsHeavyHands Posts: 2,130
    edited September 2009
    Back Spacer 76 wrote:
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    "A lot more people are capable of being big out there that just don't give themselves a chance." -Stone Gossard
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