Why are songs sped up live? (Unthought) Known
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i don't think i could handle corduroy at album speed LOL.
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but that's just, you know, my opinion, man.
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SOLAT is generally way too fast. I also noticed on the Shepherd's Bush boot that the beginning of Sometimes is very fast. Takes away from the song a bit, IMO.
I agree with slightofjeff re. GTF, though ... Let that one build and groove ... Not sure what Amongst the Waves sounded like last night, but that's another where they ought to take their time. Depends on the song.
And for you guys talking about Even Flow and Given To fly...........listen to the 2008 boots? They have some really great slowed down versions (not all, but they are out there)!
I disagree with you on SOLAT. It doesn't need to be as slow as the Ten remix version. But something in the same zip code as the Singles version would be great.
Corduroy and Hail, Hail need to be slowed down a bit, too. If for no other reason than I don't think Ed can really keep up vocally when those songs are played too fast.
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See, I think this is all Ed's idea. Go listen to Ed solo boots that hypothetically might exist. He plays Around the Bend at like 100 miles an hour, fer chrissakes.
I blame it on this punk kick Ed's been on ... for the last 15 years
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Also, I think some songs are so easy for Mike to play after a while he just FLIES through 'em. :shock:
I read in some old article ages ago, I know I didn't dream it, where Stone was mentioning Ed's love of speeding up songs. Hopefully I'll find it again some day. Its basically just a fact of life now, with Pearl Jam. (And its fine with me actually)
Edit: About halfway through this article is a bit about Ed wanting to speed up Spin the Black Circle.
http://web.archive.org/web/200403190711 ... vrs03.html
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Agree with this. If one were to hear these boots, not that I am saying they exist, one would hear what slight is referring to.
And Hail, Hail slowed down? That's even more wrong than slowing down SOLAT ... You may have a point re. Corduroy, however.
I loved how they were playing Hail, Hail in 1998 and 2000. It's faster than the album version, but slower than the speed metal version that Ed can barely keep up with anymore.
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Here's the quote you're talking about, from Ed:
"I was just trying to make the music I wanted to be making. I remember wanting everything to be faster. "Spin the Black Circle" [on 1994's Vitalogy]-Stone gave me a tape with this riff [hums it at slow speed]. I had a speed control on my machine. I speeded it up, came back and said, 'Can we do it this way?' "
That whole link is pretty good stuff. I had forgotten about it.
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Im a touring full time musician...believe me, when youre on stage and the gig is energised and youre feeling great, most songs you play are faster...its the nature of the beast...I bet none of the band felt that it was fast...clearly from watching it we can see it is...its coming of a row of up tempo songs and also its just Ed starting the song so the band matches his set tempo...really it just sometimes happens...ask any performing muso...
PURE ADRENALINE!!!!
I don't know if this is true. Because they didn't always play these songs at warp speed. It seems to be a very conscious effort.
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Sorry, i was literally just talking about Unthought Known and why this version was fast from what i saw on youtube...
Oh, sorry. Yeah, that could be correct.
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It's the adrenaline of playing live. I know when i've played gigs, everyone has to sit down and conciously decide before they play some songs to remember to slow down. It is really easy to get carried away and when you're the one playing the song, you don't realize it doesn't sound as good.
I listened to the Toronto boot while driving around today, and now I'm watching "Live at the Garden."
At the Garden, most songs seem to be in time, or close to, the studio versions. Perhaps some of the absolute jams are a bit quicker, but not very much.
Now. I'm not sure the well-known sped up live versions can be accounted for by just adrenaline. Surely that is a factor, and no offense to anyone who theorized that is the cause, but were they not subject to adrenaline at MSG? The crowd was pretty damn good that night, with plenty of energy.
Matt Cameron was drumming. So that theory's out the window, too
Compared to the couple shows I've been to over the last year, as well as the boots and videos, "Live at the Garden" is so different so far as time. The videos on YouTube from the last the shows the last couple of weeks demonstrate that.
Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of songs that I like more played a bit faster. Mostly I'm just curious.
If it is to fit more songs in, I'm with the person who suggested getting rid of the opening band.
Yar, we wuz rocking that night fer sure. I think it's more the way songs evolve over time when a band has been around and on tour as long and often as Pearl Jam. It also helps that they actually play the song when they play live, and not try to play the recorded version of the song.
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i personally would much rather listen to machine gun versions of GTF, even flow, go, corduroy etc than the studio versions. they kinda lumber along for me.
but that's just me, so whatev.
play them fast. play them hard.
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2003 albany
2003 mansfield I, II, III
2004 boston I, II
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2008 mansfield II
2009 philadelphia I, IV
2010 buffalo, hartford, boston