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got Backspacer in mail today wheres Boom?

dwhite76dwhite76 Posts: 2,801
edited October 2009 in The Porch
got backspacer in the mail and was looking at who was involved in putting this record together and didnt see Boom Gaspar noted anywhere not even a thank you was he involved this time around is that the case someone hit me up with some info
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  • YouGotRONDO-dYouGotRONDO-d Posts: 42
    Hes on the album I definatley heard his organ on at least one of the songs.
  • yield2meyield2me Posts: 1,291
    TheBigTicKet wrote:
    Hes on the album I definatley heard his organ on at least one of the songs.

    think Brendan Obrien played all the organ and piano on this record
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  • RiotAct10RiotAct10 Ohio Posts: 1,634
    Boom sat out the Backspacer recording sessions. Brendan O'Brien played piano and organ. Boom is still touring with Pearl Jam.
    words seem so out of place.

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  • MK186319MK186319 Posts: 186
    What's up with that, Boom should have played on this album, he needs his props
  • Adm. Glen ScotiaAdm. Glen Scotia Posts: 181
    MK186319 wrote:
    What's up with that, Boom should have played on this album, he needs his props

    I enjoy Boom's presence on stage much of the time, but I have to say I'm glad they used a competent keyboard player in the studio this time around :)
  • YouGotRONDO-dYouGotRONDO-d Posts: 42
    Oh. Props to Obrien.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    dwhite76 wrote:
    got backspacer in the mail and was looking at who was involved in putting this record together and didnt see Boom Gaspar noted anywhere not even a thank you was he involved this time around is that the case someone hit me up with some info

    I think Boom stole the "period," "comma" and "question mark" keys from your computer.
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  • yield2meyield2me Posts: 1,291
    well Boom is in the making of Backspacer video so...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3m4gvJDrlo
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    yield2me wrote:
    well Boom is in the making of Backspacer video so...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3m4gvJDrlo

    I think what we've figured out about that video is that it's not really a "making of" video per se ... much of that footage is from rehearsals for what was (at the time) the upcoming tour.

    Boom does not play on Bspacer.
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  • IsaacIsaac Posts: 137
    The keys are too good to be Boom. Not knocking Boom really, but Brendan is good... more melodic maybe.
  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Isaac wrote:
    The keys are too good to be Boom. Not knocking Boom really, but Brendan is good... more melodic maybe.

    um, that is a knock. not defending Boom at all, but I don't get what all the Boom hate is about on this board. I mean, what's wrong with this playing. Other than just saying "boom stinks", I'd like a quantifiable answer to this, if there is one, pretty please!!
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  • GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    Johnny Sitar wrote:
    Isaac wrote:
    The keys are too good to be Boom. Not knocking Boom really, but Brendan is good... more melodic maybe.

    um, that is a knock. not defending Boom at all, but I don't get what all the Boom hate is about on this board. I mean, what's wrong with this playing. Other than just saying "boom stinks", I'd like a quantifiable answer to this, if there is one, pretty please!!
    Boom is more of organ player, this album features and highlights piano and key board parts. No offense to boom, he might be a better organ player than b.o.b but not straight up keys.
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  • rlaidepeasrlaidepeas St. Louis, MO Posts: 306
    I've never considered Boom an official member of the band, so It doesn't bother me that he didn't play on the record.

    If that's 'Boom hate' then I apologize. Back on the Riot Act tour, it felt like he was trying to force the organ on songs that didn't need it. I prefer a song like "Alive" to sound more like it did on the album. Maybe that's just me....
  • IsaacIsaac Posts: 137
    Boom seems to both play behind the beat at times, and he also tends to rush at times. This is evident when they play live. Just my opinion and I say listen to the Just Breathe... its spot on.

    And no, I am not knocking Boom, I like him, I don't think he detracts and for sure he adds power to LBC. But the keys are tight on Backspacer, thats all I am saying.
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  • Adm. Glen ScotiaAdm. Glen Scotia Posts: 181
    MM188016 wrote:
    Boom is basically worthless as a player and the only reason people really like him is cause he looks cool. Backspace is such a strong album in large part because of BoB. He is an incredible musician and Boom could never even hold a candle to him in terms of musical ability on any album.

    I wouldn't go so far as to say he's "worthless." That's a little harsh. But Backspacer definitely benefits from BoB on the keys rather than our guy Boom.
  • YouGotRONDO-dYouGotRONDO-d Posts: 42
    I like the element he brings to Crazy Mary, LBC, and Wasted Reprise. I always liked the touch he adds.
  • LoveBoatAdmiralLoveBoatAdmiral Posts: 1,191
    Anyone else notice that they replaced the piano lead into the bridge in the Fixer to a guitar riff live?
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  • hailhail82hailhail82 Posts: 330
    Boom definitely is sub par talent-wise to 95% of keyboardists playing with a well known touring act. That's just the truth. He fits in with Pearl Jam just fine because they know his limitations (even if Ed does not?) and play to his strengths. One exception to this is when they played Crazy Mary at the first BSB show of 2006 with boom on the upright piano. His solo was absolutely painful. Not being able to sustain a single note like he can on his organ really highlighted his limitations.
    I don't dislike the guy, but to me it's obvious why Brendan provided the keys for this record. The arrangements called for skills Boom just doesn't possess.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    hailhail82 wrote:
    Boom definitely is sub par talent-wise to 95% of keyboardists playing with a well known touring act.

    So very true.

    also....

    BO'b was probably the best musician in the studio during the recording of BS.
  • hailhail82hailhail82 Posts: 330
    DewieCox wrote:
    hailhail82 wrote:
    Boom definitely is sub par talent-wise to 95% of keyboardists playing with a well known touring act.

    So very true.

    also....

    BO'b was probably the best musician in the studio during the recording of BS.

    No doubt, but then again, BO'b couldn't write a #1 record. He's a wiz for sure and seemingly the best fit for them in the studio but obviously their feel for writing and performing is something that Brendan's technical skills can't compensate for.
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  • phillypjheadphillypjhead Posts: 123
    Maybe the truth is in the middle? Boom doesn't "suck", but he's not Steve Winwood on the B-3. As much as the guys put in to their live show, I'm sure they would not keep touring with someone who took away from what they were trying to accomplish.

    As far as the comment about Boom "forcing" his way into songs, I'm not sure what that means. Does he control the way the sound is mixed? I'm sure he doesn't decide which songs he plays on.
  • UncleNeilUncleNeil Posts: 120
    hailhail82 wrote:
    is when they played Crazy Mary at the first BSB show of 2006 with boom on the upright piano. His solo was absolutely painful.

    I don't hate Boom at all, but you are 100% right about that performance. It was amazingly bad.
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  • Lone WolfLone Wolf Posts: 1,023
    rlaidepeas wrote:
    I've never considered Boom an official member of the band, so It doesn't bother me that he didn't play on the record.

    If that's 'Boom hate' then I apologize. Back on the Riot Act tour, it felt like he was trying to force the organ on songs that didn't need it. I prefer a song like "Alive" to sound more like it did on the album. Maybe that's just me....


    I feel the same way.....

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  • ScrapeMySkyScrapeMySky Posts: 426
    Doesn't anyone find it a little odd, that there's no mention of ANYONE playing any keys on BS? I just think that's a little offensive. I mean there's keys all over the album... Rgardless of whoever played them.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    ScrapeMySky wrote:
    Doesn't anyone find it a little odd, that there's no mention of ANYONE playing any keys on BS? I just think that's a little offensive. I mean there's keys all over the album... Rgardless of whoever played them.

    I don't know how it's "offensive." Apparently, Brendan said he didn't want album credit, for whatever reason.
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  • ScrapeMySkyScrapeMySky Posts: 426
    Well, sure. I don't think they left his name off the liner notes for no reason. But on the other hand, who wouldn't want to get credit for playing on a PJ album?? :D
    But really, espeacially if you listen to the sheer amount of keys on that album, I still find it odd. What reason could someone possibly have for doing that?
    Then again, maybe I should just get a life and care about more impotant stuff... :geek:
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,998
    is when they played Crazy Mary at the first BSB show of 2006 with boom on the upright piano. His solo was absolutely painful.

    Anywhere you can listen to this? I think Neil should play organ on the PJ tours ;)

    ANd about credit. My guess is that BoB consider adding instrumental parts etc are part of the producing gig. Like when I direct a film I don't add a credit for editing from my editor If i cut a shot or two, or boom operator if I take sound in a scene etc.
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  • Dark StarDark Star Posts: 496
    Boom is underrated around these parts, the guy is a pro organ player and very talented. To say he is "average" or whatever, thats your opinion, but he is no "rookie" musician. He toured live for years before he ever met Eddie. The main reason I think he isn't on Backspacer is because that makes it 6 musicians to split the profits with instead of 5. Plus I think Brendan is more than capable of the task at hand and he had his own vision. If it wasn't for the fact that PJ has a guy like Boom to play Brendan's parts live, I doubt Brendan would of been so liberal in adding those instruments to the album mix ....
  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    so are some of you actually booing at the shows for Boom? I knew it.
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