PJ have gone too far with focusing on their live stuff...bootlegs of everything, live DVD after live DVD, tours every few months...its awesome that they are a great live band, but that much attention to the live side of things does a couple of things...it takes you away from writing material and writing albums, which is what tours should be based around......
Well, they're working on new material, and who knows what that will be like.
Their second most recent album is widely regarded as one of their most experimental.
Ed recently completed his very first solo solo tour, in support of a folksy soundtrack (also a first for him).
Stone has been dabbling in country music, and a Prince cover.
Jeff recently released his first solo album with original material.
Mike and Matt both have side projects, in which they've been working with different musicians.
So my question is, where exactly are you seeing these unchallanged, resting laurels?
Ya I mean people are entitled to their own opinions but that may be the worst post in the history of this board... Give me a break.. Start with everything that is listed above... then lets move to their shows... They just brought back and started opening with hard to imagine... they brought back WMA and Who You Are for the first time in over 10 years not too mention they are PLaying Love Reign O'er Me now which is not easy by any means... The Fans have been challenged by the band and WE live up to the expectations... the fans have been great at the shows with the singing and the clapping and whatever else... THey are all have side projects... Ed just kicked ass on a solo tour where he did a bunch of different things... Didnt know playing rockin in a free world solo with a guy on drums is FOLKSY...
Cmon man, give me a break... If Pearl Jam doesnt challenge themselves or their fans please humor mean and name a band that you think does?
Ya I mean people are entitled to their own opinions but that may be the worst post in the history of this board... Give me a break.. Start with everything that is listed above... then lets move to their shows... They just brought back and started opening with hard to imagine... they brought back WMA and Who You Are for the first time in over 10 years not too mention they are PLaying Love Reign O'er Me now which is not easy by any means... The Fans have been challenged by the band and WE live up to the expectations... the fans have been great at the shows with the singing and the clapping and whatever else... THey are all have side projects... Ed just kicked ass on a solo tour where he did a bunch of different things... Didnt know playing rockin in a free world solo with a guy on drums is FOLKSY...
Cmon man, give me a break... If Pearl Jam doesnt challenge themselves or their fans please humor mean and name a band that you think does?
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PJ have gone too far with focusing on their live stuff...bootlegs of everything, live DVD after live DVD, tours every few months...its awesome that they are a great live band, but that much attention to the live side of things does a couple of things...it takes you away from writing material and writing albums, which is what tours should be based around......
I disagree- some of their best shows I saw were in 2004, 2005, and 2008 when they were not touring to support and albulm and they played whetever they felt like playing.
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I disagree- some of their best shows I saw were in 2004, 2005, and 2008 when they were not touring to support and albulm and they played whetever they felt like playing.
LIVE MUSIC... Music is meant to be LIVE... how can you go to far with that? They have completely revolutionized the art of the BOOTLEG... and they have probably the most LOYAL fan base of any band that is around right now... Ya... big mistake there... those 3 hr shows they play really are bland and boring... how dare they play dirty frank for the first time in 12 years...
Maybe they should be like Metallica and on their next new album only learn how to play half the songs on it and play 2 nights at MSG and just do the same exact show both nights... Thats a real challenge
I know, they are shit are'nt they, i dont know why well all bother
Right... what a waste it was to go to the last 8 shows of the 03 tour just to see them play one of their greatest shows ever at MSG ( oh... no wait, they made one of those shitty dvds from that show) haha... and watch them play 95 different songs in 3 shows in Boston, oh ya, and an Acoustic show an hr before the opening band... Man... that is so lame and boring... every band does that...
Rest on your Laurels... or give a whole trailer park free tickets to your show the day of the show so you can BREAK CURFEW... CREED does that all the time! hahah
I love Pearl Jam but, they are just resting on their laurels now and haven't challenged themselves or their fans in some time.
yeah, i somewhat agree. i would love for them to release a "vitalogy" or "yield" every 5 years, but it's not going to happen.
but i think the band has been challenged by other things, instead of themselves, that has been influencing their style of music. i wouldn't say they are resting, i would say they are answering.
I disagree- some of their best shows I saw were in 2004, 2005, and 2008 when they were not touring to support and albulm and they played whetever they felt like playing.
I totally agree, no need tour ONLY to support a new album. It was great to see some older stuff like WMA and Who You are brought back to life as mentioned above.
-chris
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will know peace.
PJ have gone too far with focusing on their live stuff...bootlegs of everything, live DVD after live DVD, tours every few months...its awesome that they are a great live band, but that much attention to the live side of things does a couple of things...it takes you away from writing material and writing albums, which is what tours should be based around......
you are flat out wrong here. when band perform live, very often new songs are developed on stage. entire albums have been written on the road touring. often new songs are first played live before ever being polished up in the studio....music is MEANT to be played live.
PJ have gone too far with focusing on their live stuff...bootlegs of everything, live DVD after live DVD, tours every few months...its awesome that they are a great live band, but that much attention to the live side of things does a couple of things...it takes you away from writing material and writing albums, which is what tours should be based around......
PJ are my favorite band specifically because of their live performances. It is great to follow a band that loves to perform. I listen to the studio albums almost never. I listen to bootlegs, watch DVDs, and see them at shows. I'm just happy they write new material. I buy the studio stuff, but those songs only come to life for me once I see / hear them performed.
You see the live stuff as a distraction for what you want them to be doing in the studio. I see the live stuff as the goal, with the studio work there to provide more options for a great setlist.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Ed just kicked ass on a solo tour where he did a bunch of different things... Didnt know playing rockin in a free world solo with a guy on drums is FOLKSY...
Just wanted to clarify here. I didn't mean that the solo shows were exclusively "folksy", but the "Into The Wild" soundtrack had a predominantly folk-feel to it. And there's nothing wrong with that... I loved the soundtrack.
I kind of agree with the original poster. They still make good music but their most recent album was pretty by-the-numbers Pearl Jam. Not exciting or interesting or fresh (IMO).
Yeah, solo projects and live shows are all well and good but what's the point in that if it isn't translated to the studio?
Right... what a waste it was to go to the last 8 shows of the 03 tour just to see them play one of their greatest shows ever at MSG ( oh... no wait, they made one of those shitty dvds from that show) haha... and watch them play 95 different songs in 3 shows in Boston, oh ya, and an Acoustic show an hr before the opening band... Man... that is so lame and boring... every band does that...
Rest on your Laurels... or give a whole trailer park free tickets to your show the day of the show so you can BREAK CURFEW... CREED does that all the time! hahah
OH SHIT, i was being so sacarstic
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And as far as fans, from what I have seen over the years, their fanbase just keeps growing - so why change now???
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Their second most recent album is widely regarded as one of their most experimental.
Ed recently completed his very first solo solo tour, in support of a folksy soundtrack (also a first for him).
Stone has been dabbling in country music, and a Prince cover.
Jeff recently released his first solo album with original material.
Mike and Matt both have side projects, in which they've been working with different musicians.
So my question is, where exactly are you seeing these unchallanged, resting laurels?
u obviously haven't seen a show in a while
2006: Camden 1&2, East Ruth 1&2
2008: BONNAROO, MSG1, MSG2, Hartford
2009: Philly 1, 2, 4
2010: Hartford, MSG1, MSG2
2012: Made in America
2013: BK1, BK2, Hartford
2015: Global Citizens
2016: MSG 2 (ISO MSG1)
EV Solo: NJPAC 2008; Tower Theatre, PA 2009; Hartford 2011
put the pipe down!
Ya I mean people are entitled to their own opinions but that may be the worst post in the history of this board... Give me a break.. Start with everything that is listed above... then lets move to their shows... They just brought back and started opening with hard to imagine... they brought back WMA and Who You Are for the first time in over 10 years not too mention they are PLaying Love Reign O'er Me now which is not easy by any means... The Fans have been challenged by the band and WE live up to the expectations... the fans have been great at the shows with the singing and the clapping and whatever else... THey are all have side projects... Ed just kicked ass on a solo tour where he did a bunch of different things... Didnt know playing rockin in a free world solo with a guy on drums is FOLKSY...
Cmon man, give me a break... If Pearl Jam doesnt challenge themselves or their fans please humor mean and name a band that you think does?
2000 Tour- Saratoga 8/27 Boston 8/29, 8/30
2003 Tour- Albany 4/29 Boston 7/2,7/3,7/11 Philadelphia 7/5,7/6 MSG 7/8,7/9
2004 Tour- Boston 9/28,9/29
2006 Tour- Albany 5/12 Hartford 5/13 Boston 5/24,5/25
2008 Tour- MSG 6/24,6/25 Hartford 6/27 Boston 6/28,6/30 Eddie- Boston 8/1
2009 Tour- Eddie- Albany 6/9 Philly Spectrum- 10/30, 10/31
2010 Tour- Hartford 5/15 MSG 5/20,5/21
2011 Tour- Eddie- Hartford 6/18
2013 Tour- Worcester,MA 10/15,10/16 Hartford 10/25
2016 Tour- MSG 5/1,5/2 FENWAY 8/5,8/7
2018 Tour- Fenway 9/2, 9/4 (My 40th show)!
wait, I think I can answer for Topomax:
Creed?
Why contain yourself like any other book on the shelf?
Subtle voices in the wind hear the truth they're telling.
A world begins where the road ends.
Watch me leave it all behind.
Eddie would win...
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I disagree- some of their best shows I saw were in 2004, 2005, and 2008 when they were not touring to support and albulm and they played whetever they felt like playing.
LOL! Nice...how low can you go!
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LIVE MUSIC... Music is meant to be LIVE... how can you go to far with that? They have completely revolutionized the art of the BOOTLEG... and they have probably the most LOYAL fan base of any band that is around right now... Ya... big mistake there... those 3 hr shows they play really are bland and boring... how dare they play dirty frank for the first time in 12 years...
Maybe they should be like Metallica and on their next new album only learn how to play half the songs on it and play 2 nights at MSG and just do the same exact show both nights... Thats a real challenge
2000 Tour- Saratoga 8/27 Boston 8/29, 8/30
2003 Tour- Albany 4/29 Boston 7/2,7/3,7/11 Philadelphia 7/5,7/6 MSG 7/8,7/9
2004 Tour- Boston 9/28,9/29
2006 Tour- Albany 5/12 Hartford 5/13 Boston 5/24,5/25
2008 Tour- MSG 6/24,6/25 Hartford 6/27 Boston 6/28,6/30 Eddie- Boston 8/1
2009 Tour- Eddie- Albany 6/9 Philly Spectrum- 10/30, 10/31
2010 Tour- Hartford 5/15 MSG 5/20,5/21
2011 Tour- Eddie- Hartford 6/18
2013 Tour- Worcester,MA 10/15,10/16 Hartford 10/25
2016 Tour- MSG 5/1,5/2 FENWAY 8/5,8/7
2018 Tour- Fenway 9/2, 9/4 (My 40th show)!
I know, they are shit are'nt they, i dont know why well all bother
They can buy but cant put on my clothes
Throw down my ace in the hole~~~~~~
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Right... what a waste it was to go to the last 8 shows of the 03 tour just to see them play one of their greatest shows ever at MSG ( oh... no wait, they made one of those shitty dvds from that show) haha... and watch them play 95 different songs in 3 shows in Boston, oh ya, and an Acoustic show an hr before the opening band... Man... that is so lame and boring... every band does that...
Rest on your Laurels... or give a whole trailer park free tickets to your show the day of the show so you can BREAK CURFEW... CREED does that all the time! hahah
2000 Tour- Saratoga 8/27 Boston 8/29, 8/30
2003 Tour- Albany 4/29 Boston 7/2,7/3,7/11 Philadelphia 7/5,7/6 MSG 7/8,7/9
2004 Tour- Boston 9/28,9/29
2006 Tour- Albany 5/12 Hartford 5/13 Boston 5/24,5/25
2008 Tour- MSG 6/24,6/25 Hartford 6/27 Boston 6/28,6/30 Eddie- Boston 8/1
2009 Tour- Eddie- Albany 6/9 Philly Spectrum- 10/30, 10/31
2010 Tour- Hartford 5/15 MSG 5/20,5/21
2011 Tour- Eddie- Hartford 6/18
2013 Tour- Worcester,MA 10/15,10/16 Hartford 10/25
2016 Tour- MSG 5/1,5/2 FENWAY 8/5,8/7
2018 Tour- Fenway 9/2, 9/4 (My 40th show)!
yeah, i somewhat agree. i would love for them to release a "vitalogy" or "yield" every 5 years, but it's not going to happen.
but i think the band has been challenged by other things, instead of themselves, that has been influencing their style of music. i wouldn't say they are resting, i would say they are answering.
I totally agree, no need tour ONLY to support a new album. It was great to see some older stuff like WMA and Who You are brought back to life as mentioned above.
-chris
He's holding himself up with the mic stand! No fair!
you are flat out wrong here. when band perform live, very often new songs are developed on stage. entire albums have been written on the road touring. often new songs are first played live before ever being polished up in the studio....music is MEANT to be played live.
PJ are my favorite band specifically because of their live performances. It is great to follow a band that loves to perform. I listen to the studio albums almost never. I listen to bootlegs, watch DVDs, and see them at shows. I'm just happy they write new material. I buy the studio stuff, but those songs only come to life for me once I see / hear them performed.
You see the live stuff as a distraction for what you want them to be doing in the studio. I see the live stuff as the goal, with the studio work there to provide more options for a great setlist.
Damn - that man has HOT laurels!!!!
Yeah, solo projects and live shows are all well and good but what's the point in that if it isn't translated to the studio?
OH SHIT, i was being so sacarstic
They can buy but cant put on my clothes
Throw down my ace in the hole~~~~~~
Let's go for three in a row, no sorry i can't think of anything thats not funny. - Paul Merton
London96,Manchester00,Berlin06,London07