speed of sound. only song i really care

JR86440JR86440 Posts: 750
edited September 2009 in The Porch
to skip on the album.....cant say that about too many albums nowadays..i think this tour we will hear A LOT of Backspacer..I am happy with that..
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  • wnh1977wnh1977 Iowa Posts: 639
    Yeah, I'm afraid my fears have come true regarding "Speed of Sound". When I heard the demo, I feared that it would become too cluttered once the full band got involved. This is almost a repeat of "Gone"... really liked the "Gone" demo from the 2005 X-mas single, but the album version just missed a little for me. On some songs, less is more. It's Pearl Jam, so I don't completely dismiss it :) But it's at the bottom of my Backspacer rankings.
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  • JR86440JR86440 Posts: 750
    Yep. I agree.. Cant win them all... I think the album has a lot of songs they can play for years live though and will be well received...cant say that about Riot Act and Binaural..only couple tunes they really play live off those albums..
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,306
    The demo >>> the album version.


    A song like that needs to be simple and melodic...
    They went WAY too far on the album version.
  • mca47 wrote:
    The demo >>> the album version.


    A song like that needs to be simple and melodic...
    They went WAY too far on the album version.
    Give it a week.. you will change your mind.. I thought the same, and now the album version is awesome and the demo bores me.

    We just got too used to the demo.
  • Aaron 23Aaron 23 Allen, TX Posts: 543
    mca47 wrote:
    The demo >>> the album version.


    A song like that needs to be simple and melodic...
    They went WAY too far on the album version.
    Give it a week.. you will change your mind.. I thought the same, and now the album version is awesome and the demo bores me.

    We just got too used to the demo.
    Been a week here...still prefer the demo, no contest.
  • JR86440JR86440 Posts: 750
    Aaron 23 wrote:
    mca47 wrote:
    The demo >>> the album version.


    A song like that needs to be simple and melodic...
    They went WAY too far on the album version.
    Give it a week.. you will change your mind.. I thought the same, and now the album version is awesome and the demo bores me.

    We just got too used to the demo.
    Been a week here...still prefer the demo, no contest.

    Yep. I agree. The Demo was listenable..studio will skip..Love Johnny Guitar..surprised havent heard much about that one on here
  • mca47 wrote:
    The demo >>> the album version.


    A song like that needs to be simple and melodic...
    They went WAY too far on the album version.
    Give it a week.. you will change your mind.. I thought the same, and now the album version is awesome and the demo bores me.

    We just got too used to the demo.
    Totally agree. Disappointed at first but now I absolutely love it!
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  • yield2meyield2me Posts: 1,291
    I love everything on the album except for Speed of Sound. Now thats not to say that I hate it, but it's just those synthesized, laser, sonic the hedgehog sounds towards the end of the song that just make me cringe
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  • IsaacIsaac Posts: 137
    In my opinion, the album version is pretty out there. It almost made me chuckle, I kept expecting to hear some crazy instrumentation. I had to flip to the back of the liner notes (mid song) to check and make sure there weren't going to be additional instruments that pop up during the song. It feels carnival like... to me.

    When I heard the demo (I didn't realize it was a demo at the time) I was cheering the fact they brought O'brian back. I thought Speed of Sound was on par with Sometimes, specifically with the nuances in Ed's voice (being able to hear Ed breathing before he sings). It is powerful w/out the power.

    I am a painter, and I have often heard from other painters/printmakers/photographers that you never show a work in progress. Generally, I am opposed to that rule in terms of visual art... but this song is making me think twice. I am disappointed in that fact that I know there is a great demo out there (a work in progress) but PJ made the choice artistically to muck it up.

    I am enjoying the album... and specifically - Johnny, Just Breathe, Supersonic
  • Isaac wrote:
    In my opinion, the album version is pretty out there. It almost made me chuckle, I kept expecting to hear some crazy instrumentation. I had to flip to the back of the liner notes (mid song) to check and make sure there weren't going to be additional instruments that pop up during the song. It feels carnival like... to me.

    When I heard the demo (I didn't realize it was a demo at the time) I was cheering the fact they brought O'brian back. I thought Speed of Sound was on par with Sometimes, specifically with the nuances in Ed's voice (being able to hear Ed breathing before he sings). It is powerful w/out the power.

    I am a painter, and I have often heard from other painters/printmakers/photographers that you never show a work in progress. Generally, I am opposed to that rule in terms of visual art... but this song is making me think twice. I am disappointed in that fact that I know there is a great demo out there (a work in progress) but PJ made the choice artistically to muck it up.

    I am enjoying the album... and specifically - Johnny, Just Breathe, Supersonic
    I guess for me I really enjoy both versions. each one evoking a different emotional state. At least we will always have a quality demo version to cherish.
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  • I could not disagree with the majority of the comments here.. Speed of Sound is one of my favorites on Backspacer ~ it is an incedibly beautiful song.
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  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    mca47 wrote:
    The demo >>> the album version.
    Oh man, I couldn't disagree more. I didn't like the demo version at all. The studio album version is at least kinda listenable. But yeah, overall, I am not feeling this song yet.

    That said, it took me years to fully appreciate Low Light from YIELD, so all is still alright with the world. :D
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,581
    Speed of Sound is the best song on Backspacer. Yea, I said it.
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  • blindmuleblindmule Albany, NY Posts: 138
    I have to kind of agree here - I actually like the overall band arrangement for this song (and I LOVED the demo), but once the drums kick in it goes downhill.

    I feel like the drums don't match the song - musically I dig it on a whole, but it sounds like Matt is playing to a different song...

    I do have to say - does anyone else LOVE Jeff's very Beatles-esque bass in "Just Breathe"!?
    It's got a very upbeat Beatles/uptempo bluegrass feel to it in the bass. Unlike anything I can recall hearing him play before!
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    I think the demo version is complete bliss, i cant say i really like the studio version too much as they left out the beautiful howling and guitar part but the vocal melodies are still there,

    but yeah thumbs down, not bad enough for a skip though!
  • The album version actually makes me cringe, not only is it the worst song on Backspacer but possibly one of my least favorite songs ever by PJ. I can't believe some people think it's the best song from Backspacer, that blows my mind, the album is awesome but come on that song sucks!
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  • ZiggyStarZiggyStar Posts: 14,328
    Album version of this song is in my top 3 crap songs on the album.....haven't heard the other version.
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  • swardsward Posts: 586
    I had to give this song some repeated listens in order for it to stick. But it has. Surely, it won't be a hit for some on here, but I really think if you see a glimmer of hope in it, you need to give it repeated listens, and especially if you've heard the demo. I love it now, but I sure didn't the first few spins.
  • The demo is amazing. On the album it has way to many layers, it seems like a forced pop ballad.
  • ZiggyStar wrote:
    Album version of this song is in my top 3 crap songs on the album.....haven't heard the other version.

    Is Gonna See My Friend one of the other ones? It is the only song I dislike on the album as it is boring and has no hook or anything that isn't bland. But the other songs are great!
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    ZiggyStar wrote:
    Album version of this song is in my top 3 crap songs on the album.....haven't heard the other version.
    Don't bother with the other version. Trust me, you won't like it.
  • ZiggyStar wrote:
    Album version of this song is in my top 3 crap songs on the album.....haven't heard the other version.

    Is Gonna See My Friend one of the other ones? It is the only song I dislike on the album as it is boring and has no hook or anything that isn't bland. But the other songs are great!

    Bland? Have you even listened to the song? Are you a fan of PJ's cover of "The Real Me"? If so, GSMF is very close. Listen to Jeff's fabulous playing on this song. Matt does pretty well, too.
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  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,690
    It's also the only song I skip on the album.
    Haven't heard the demo version.
  • AmherstJammerAmherstJammer Amherst, Massachusetts Posts: 1,510
    I LOVE Speed Of Sound!! All versions :) the song is stuck in my head too.....
  • the demo version would be just too much stripped down stuff on the album with Just Breathe and The End.

    The song as it is adds yet more variation to an album that fits about 6 different bands into just 30 odd minutes.
    we're all going to the same place...
  • You know I am one of few to say this, but it is actually one of my more favorite songs on the record.
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  • I like both versions
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  • thefin190 wrote:
    You know I am one of few to say this, but it is actually one of my more favorite songs on the record.
    After my first listen, I skipped it a few times on the next few listens, but now I'm really starting to like it a lot. It's definitely a grower. Probably because it sounds "different".
  • OK, I think I'm going to get slammed for this one, but I'm actually digging Speed of Sound a little bit more than Unthought Known.....

    I like them both, don't get me wrong, but the only problem I have with Unthought Known is that it's pretty much the same repeated vocal melody on each line of the song. I definitely think it will grow on me though.

    That having been said, I LOVE every song on this album, and my early favorites are Amongst the Waves, Got Some, Force of Nature, and Just Breathe (especially the "Did I say that I need you" part; I get goosebumps every time!).
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  • halszka123halszka123 Posts: 1,109
    Sorry to say, but in my opinion album version of Speed of Sound is crap. I said it and I repeat.
    I can't listen to it, my ears hurt and I feel ashamed.

    Sorry, even Foxymop is better...
    I don't know how it happened but They did it. They ruin fantastic song. Like from the top to the deepest bottom.
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