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Michael Jordan's Hall of Fame speech

musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
edited February 2013 in All Encompassing Trip
i dont get what the big deal about the speech was? Someone said that people have been saying MJ was angry and arrogant and just didnt come off well. I am just watching the speech right now, and he is crying and emotional and thanked Scottie Pippen. I dont get what the big deal is,
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  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,131
    he made the greatest quote as well

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  • theboxerorthebagtheboxerorthebag Posts: 1,774
    He confirmed what a lot of people already knew. That he is an arrogant egotistical jerk.
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    worst speach EVER
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,716
    Rick Reilly destroyed it......then again I hate Rick Reilly but it was better than anything I have read from him in a long time. He should have left his personal experience/grudges out of it thought. Kind of seemed like he had an agenda.

    Going to watch it now.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,716
    I didn't think it was that bad at all. It was a bit all about him and he was not incredibly gracious but I mean the guy got to where he was through his own hard work. Of course people helped him along the way but it kind of is all about him at that point.
  • IwasBit10IwasBit10 Posts: 646
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I didn't think it was that bad at all. It was a bit all about him and he was not incredibly gracious but I mean the guy got to where he was through his own hard work. Of course people helped him along the way but it kind of is all about him at that point.

    I was the same way. Had read all this criticism about the speech, but when I finally watched it, I didn't find it that bad. There were certain parts that I would've left out, but it was HIS induction after all. To be the best in the world at something, you gotta have an ego and a chip on your shoulder. That's what drove him to the heights he reached.

    I just wish he would've said what up to Dennis.
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  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Rick Reilly destroyed it......
    Here's Reilly's review. A tad harsh, maybe, but not too far off IMO:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/ ... id=4477759
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,716
    IwasBit10 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I didn't think it was that bad at all. It was a bit all about him and he was not incredibly gracious but I mean the guy got to where he was through his own hard work. Of course people helped him along the way but it kind of is all about him at that point.

    I was the same way. Had read all this criticism about the speech, but when I finally watched it, I didn't find it that bad. There were certain parts that I would've left out, but it was HIS induction after all. To be the best in the world at something, you gotta have an ego and a chip on your shoulder. That's what drove him to the heights he reached.

    I just wish he would've said what up to Dennis.

    Agreed on all accounts. The guy was the best of his generation and one of the best ever and he knows it. There is nothing wrong with that.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,716
    DeLukin wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Rick Reilly destroyed it......
    Here's Reilly's review. A tad harsh, maybe, but not too far off IMO:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/ ... id=4477759

    That is the column I was talking about. Seems like he had a bit of an agenda as well, don't you think?

    BTW, I have an agenda as well, I hate Reilly, prick gets paid $3mil a year to spit out 800 word cliche filled columns on a weekly basis. He is a joke.
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    there is something to be said for being humble when entering a hof.

    i watched it live and was floored. if you want to see a good speach, go dig up jerry sloans. he is an all time great and was very classy.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,716
    81 wrote:
    there is something to be said for being humble when entering a hof.

    i watched it live and was floored. if you want to see a good speach, go dig up jerry sloans. he is an all time great and was very classy.

    Agreed, but not everyone is as humble and gracious as many think they should be. MJ is proud of his hard work and where it got him.

    Pretty funny since much of what I read about Jerry Sloan says he is one of the biggest pricks alive
  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Seems like he had a bit of an agenda as well, don't you think?
    Definitely. This seems like a pissing contest between Reilly and Jordan to see who has the more massive ego. They both need to get over themselves.
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  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,823
    Reilly is a douchebag.

    That was just MJ being MJ. Would people expect the best basketball player ever to not have an ego???
  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    Indifference71 wrote:
    Would people expect the best basketball player ever to not have an ego???
    I dunno. But a better question might be would people expect someone from Chicago to be objective about this topic? :)
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,425
    Who should have he thanked? He got kicked off his freshman team and the next day was the 1st person in the gym and the last person to leave, for the rest of his career.

    Greatest male athlete of all time and I can't think of a person that would beat him out.
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,823
    DeLukin wrote:
    Indifference71 wrote:
    Would people expect the best basketball player ever to not have an ego???
    I dunno. But a better question might be would people expect someone from Chicago to be objective about this topic? :)

    Very true. He could have taken a shit on the stage and I would have thought it was great.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Reilly wasn't the only one who had a problem with it:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,843
    He should have talked more about his teammates. He mentioned Pippen at the beginning (briefly) but I don't think he mentioned another throughout the entire speech.
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    i grew up a bulls fan, currently live in chicago land and thought it sucked.
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  • SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Posts: 3,370
    In my opinion, you can talk shit and be arrogant as long as you back it up and MJ most certainly has.
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    DewieCox wrote:
    Who should have he thanked? He got kicked off his freshman team and the next day was the 1st person in the gym and the last person to leave, for the rest of his career.

    Greatest male athlete of all time and I can't think of a person that would beat him out.
    Gretzky was better. IMO.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,843
    keeponrockin wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    Who should have he thanked? He got kicked off his freshman team and the next day was the 1st person in the gym and the last person to leave, for the rest of his career.

    Greatest male athlete of all time and I can't think of a person that would beat him out.
    Gretzky was better. IMO.

    I agree with this even though I've never watched a hockey game in my life. I've seen Gretzky's stats they're unbelievable. Besides being the all time leader in goals, he's the all time leader in assists by a very, very large margin. And since those the only two stats in Hockey....that's pretty dominate.
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    He always knew where the puck was going to be before it was there. It was unbelieveable. When he set up behind the net (his office), you were fucked. He averaged 1.92 points a game.. The next highest was 1.07.. THats incredible..
    Also, take away all his goals, he is still the all time points leader.

    Plus, while playing, was an all around class act.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    keeponrockin wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    Who should have he thanked? He got kicked off his freshman team and the next day was the 1st person in the gym and the last person to leave, for the rest of his career.

    Greatest male athlete of all time and I can't think of a person that would beat him out.
    Gretzky was better. IMO.
    Classier would be the word that I would use.....just ask Steve Smith.
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  • SongburstSongburst Posts: 1,195
    tybird wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    Who should have he thanked? He got kicked off his freshman team and the next day was the 1st person in the gym and the last person to leave, for the rest of his career.

    Greatest male athlete of all time and I can't think of a person that would beat him out.
    Gretzky was better. IMO.
    Classier would be the word that I would use.....just ask Steve Smith.

    Lol -- I love that you can count on seeing that Smith "own goal" every spring.

    MJ is not even is the same stratosphere as Gretzky in terms of dominance of a sport and all around class. Plus he played basketball -- really who cares about basketball?
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  • restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,951
    The jordan speech did suck. BUT he was absolutely incredible at what he did.

    As for the gretzky thing, Gretzky by a mile


    I love the fact that he is the all-time point getter on assists alone AND was winning scoring titles on assist alone. Think about that for a second. It blows my mind every time. Its unfathomable what he was doing. Sure the era was different, but its all relative. Other players had the same chance to do what he did.

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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    The only guy in sports that comes close to Wayne was Ty Cobb. His stats were absolutley disgusting. .367 lifetime average? Thats the only other stat in sports that boggles my mind.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,425
    keeponrockin wrote:
    The only guy in sports that comes close to Wayne was Ty Cobb. His stats were absolutley disgusting. .367 lifetime average? Thats the only other stat in sports that boggles my mind.

    I think Pujols is gonna go down as the greatest ball player of all time.
  • KravenKraven Posts: 829
    DewieCox wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    The only guy in sports that comes close to Wayne was Ty Cobb. His stats were absolutley disgusting. .367 lifetime average? Thats the only other stat in sports that boggles my mind.

    I think Pujols is gonna go down as the greatest ball player of all time.

    Yeah if people like Lou Gehrig, Ted Williams, Babe Ruth, and Joe DiMaggio never played...
    What I can't fathom is what Ted William's stats would look like if he didn't go off to defend the US of A during World War II and the Korean War.

    Michael Jordan worked his ass off to get where he got to and I certainly don't blame him for having an "arrogant" speech. I also don't think he is going to be giving shout outs to people like Steve Kerr or Toni Kukoc. They were barely in the same planet as far as basketball players, although Kerr could drain 3s like no one's business
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  • davidtriosdavidtrios Posts: 9,732
    he's almost 50. will he return for one more game?
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