I Hate U2 after seeing them live on this tour!

solace23solace23 Posts: 704
edited September 2009 in Other Music
I saw them at London Wembley Stadium. I felt nothing. The band seemed like they were just there to play the songs. With a Pearl Jam gig I walk out feeling like i've just had a religious experience. It disappoints me that I have always wanted to see U2 but have walked out feeling like I hate them.

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Does anyone else feel the same or is it just me??
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    solace23 wrote:
    I saw them at London Wembley Stadium. I felt nothing. The band seemed like they were just there to play the songs. With a Pearl Jam gig I walk out feeling like i've just had a religious experience. It disappoints me that I have always wanted to see U2 but have walked out feeling like I hate them.

    Same setlist each night
    Bono cockrock moves
    Tag after each song


    Does anyone else feel the same or is it just me??

    Personally I can't really compare PJ and U2, two very different bands who approach concerts differently. I think with U2 they give you all the bells and whistles and the way the staging and lighting is setup I doubt they could vary the set list much. I saw U2 opening night in Chicago and had blast, great crowd, great music and the band seemed energized. As with PJ they just go out and perform and entertain without worrying about staging, lighting or special effects, that also allows them the freedom to vary set list from night to night.

    Also many PJ fans see more than one concert per tour so its best to vary set list and keep it different, as with U2 I doubt they get many repeat customers per tour, so they probably don't have to vary set list from night to night.

    I do enjoy PJ shows better because they play arenas and the smaller venues and they vary the set list which makes it worth going to multiple shows. I also doubt I'm stretching it here when I say PJ is a better live band than U2. I have seen a lot of concerts, the only band that I have seen live better than PJ was The Who.

    But U2 must also be doing something right, other than Springsteen what bands today in tough economic times can pack in 60000 plus back to back nights in many cities, impressive following.

    Just my opinion. See U2 in an arena next time and you might feel differently.
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  • nuffingmannuffingman Posts: 3,014
    lukin2006 wrote:
    But U2 must also be doing something right, other than Springsteen what bands today in tough economic times can pack in 60000 plus back to back nights in many cities, impressive following.

    Take That :lol::lol::lol:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    Just my opinion. See U2 in an arena next time and you might feel differently.

    It will never happen! Not until nobody cares anymore.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
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    pearl jam is the best band in the world..u should know that before :)
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  • I always hated U2!
    Astoria 20/04/06, Leeds 25/08/06, Prague 22/09/06, Wembley 18/06/07,
    Dusseldorf 21/06/07, Manchester 17/08/09, London 18/08/09, LA 06/10/09, LA 07/10/09.

    Ain't gonna be any middle anymore.
  • mjbmjb Posts: 1,315
    I used to see U2 every time they were in (or even near) Toronto. After their last tour I am done. $250 a ticket? Is it a choreographed spectacle. There is nothing wrong with it, but it a completely different experience than a PJ show. One is a rock concert, the other is more akin to seeing a broadway play.
  • JordyWordyJordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    I've seen U2 twice, the Slane show that was on DVD in 2001, and in Croke Park in 2005. Both brilliant, but the first was particularly brilliant. I loved the minimal stage set up on that tour.

    The 2005 show had its own briliance too though. Bonos voice had got considerably weaker but a longer show and stomping setlist made up for that. The mini Zoo TV set for an encore was fantastic.
    I left both shows feeling spiritual, alive etc.

    Cut to May 2009, i was front row, standing beside the Edge & the rest U2 in a TV studio for an ad. They were playing "I'll Go Crazy If I Dont Go Crazy Tonight" over and over for this tv ad. We, the crowd, would dance and act excited. I emphasise that the excitement was an act. The new material was so flat live, especially that song. We were told where the "crescendo" part of the song was, then we had to go uber-nuts. It took several takes to find where that part was, it was no U2 cresendo ill tell you that. It was just shite. Ive seen real live U2 moments of magic, and to have to fake one repeatedly was genuinely depressing.

    The band weren't excited either. It was surreal and disappointing, standing in a room with U2, and being bored by it. I didn't believe it was possible.

    BUT on breaks from shooting, the band launched into a few Elvis covers, or snippets of older material.....and the place froze in unison and started singing along... the band would be smiling, there was a vibe, and they responded to it. Magical.

    Then the director would start barking instructions, and it was back to the dreary work of acting excited again.
    A month later I was offered tickets to this tour. I didnt take them.
  • JordyWordy wrote:
    I've seen U2 twice, the Slane show that was on DVD in 2001, and in Croke Park in 2005. Both brilliant, but the first was particularly brilliant. I loved the minimal stage set up on that tour.

    The 2005 show had its own briliance too though. Bonos voice had got considerably weaker but a longer show and stomping setlist made up for that. The mini Zoo TV set for an encore was fantastic.
    I left both shows feeling spiritual, alive etc.

    Cut to May 2009, i was front row, standing beside the Edge & the rest U2 in a TV studio for an ad. They were playing "I'll Go Crazy If I Dont Go Crazy Tonight" over and over for this tv ad. We, the crowd, would dance and act excited. I emphasise that the excitement was an act. The new material was so flat live, especially that song. We were told where the "crescendo" part of the song was, then we had to go uber-nuts. It took several takes to find where that part was, it was no U2 cresendo ill tell you that. It was just shite. Ive seen real live U2 moments of magic, and to have to fake one repeatedly was genuinely depressing.

    The band weren't excited either. It was surreal and disappointing, standing in a room with U2, and being bored by it. I didn't believe it was possible.

    BUT on breaks from shooting, the band launched into a few Elvis covers, or snippets of older material.....and the place froze in unison and started singing along... the band would be smiling, there was a vibe, and they responded to it. Magical.

    Then the director would start barking instructions, and it was back to the dreary work of acting excited again.
    A month later I was offered tickets to this tour. I didnt take them.

    how can you POSSIBLY equate a band's passion in their live show with a commercial shoot? Did you expect you'd get some mind-blowing experience there? and you got free tickets to a show and didn't take them based on that experience? why wouldn't you have based your decision on your Slane Castle experience? I just don't get it!
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  • JordyWordyJordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    paulonious wrote:
    how can you POSSIBLY equate a band's passion in their live show with a commercial shoot? Did you expect you'd get some mind-blowing experience there? and you got free tickets to a show and didn't take them based on that experience? why wouldn't you have based your decision on your Slane Castle experience? I just don't get it!

    Well firstly, when they played older stuff/covers the passion was there & the place was electric. The new songs never got going though. And the Slane experience was 8 years ago. I went in 2005 for a repeat and i didnt get it. Why would i assume i would this time?

    I don't see how it's so difficult to understand. It was the lack of interest in playing their own new material that was the problem. They themselves were in good form, joking and talking with the crowd the whole time. They enjoyed playing older stuff, but when it came to playing anything new....they just weren't into it. Thats all.

    Sure its a long day, repeating the song etc. But when they dont enjoy playing it in a room with 100 people, and the crowd dont enjoy it, why would i go see them play the whole album?

    Makes pretty good sense to me. THis wasnt some CGI-mania ad, it was U2 and 100 people hanging out for the day. Im sure there are people who enjoyed the current tour, but i doubt there were many who'd see previous tours & thought this was better.

    Like i said, when they played old songs, it was cool, the place came alive. but the new ones bored even the guys themselves.

    Dont get me wrong, i LOVE this band. i love their shows, the stage show, the whole shebang. Its just a shame to see them slipping, thats all. Still great, but slipping.
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  • petrocspetrocs Posts: 4,342
    U2 hate is soooooo 90's
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    9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • JordyWordy wrote:
    paulonious wrote:
    how can you POSSIBLY equate a band's passion in their live show with a commercial shoot? Did you expect you'd get some mind-blowing experience there? and you got free tickets to a show and didn't take them based on that experience? why wouldn't you have based your decision on your Slane Castle experience? I just don't get it!

    Well firstly, when they played older stuff/covers the passion was there & the place was electric. The new songs never got going though. And the Slane experience was 8 years ago. I went in 2005 for a repeat and i didnt get it. Why would i assume i would this time?

    I don't see how it's so difficult to understand. It was the lack of interest in playing their own new material that was the problem. They themselves were in good form, joking and talking with the crowd the whole time. They enjoyed playing older stuff, but when it came to playing anything new....they just weren't into it. Thats all.

    Sure its a long day, repeating the song etc. But when they dont enjoy playing it in a room with 100 people, and the crowd dont enjoy it, why would i go see them play the whole album?

    Makes pretty good sense to me. THis wasnt some CGI-mania ad, it was U2 and 100 people hanging out for the day. Im sure there are people who enjoyed the current tour, but i doubt there were many who'd see previous tours & thought this was better.

    Like i said, when they played old songs, it was cool, the place came alive. but the new ones bored even the guys themselves.

    Dont get me wrong, i LOVE this band. i love their shows, the stage show, the whole shebang. Its just a shame to see them slipping, thats all. Still great, but slipping.

    what you are saying doesn't make any sense though. you yourself state that "sure it was a long day" and it was A COMMERCIAL SHOOT. And their supposed lack of enthusiasm during their new stuff could have been due to many factors (like maybe the crowd wasn't into it), but the title of the thread you put up is "I hate U2 after seeing them live on this tour" from seeing them at a commercial shoot is ludicrous. But then you turn around at the end and say "I love this band". Which is it?

    I personally don't think I'd waste my time spending the day with even Eddie and boys if it was a commercial shoot. How boring. For the band and everyone else. I can't blame U2 for not being enthused about it. I think maybe your expectations were a bit skewed on this one.
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  • JordyWordyJordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    paulonious wrote:
    what you are saying doesn't make any sense though. you yourself state that "sure it was a long day" and it was A COMMERCIAL SHOOT. And their supposed lack of enthusiasm during their new stuff could have been due to many factors (like maybe the crowd wasn't into it), but the title of the thread you put up is "I hate U2 after seeing them live on this tour" from seeing them at a commercial shoot is ludicrous. But then you turn around at the end and say "I love this band". Which is it?

    I personally don't think I'd waste my time spending the day with even Eddie and boys if it was a commercial shoot. How boring. For the band and everyone else. I can't blame U2 for not being enthused about it. I think maybe your expectations were a bit skewed on this one.

    I didnt have any expectations because I didnt know it was a U2 ad. I do temping work in a studio regularly and this day just happened to be that gig, so i didnt choose to be there, i just happened to be. And of course the atmosphere isnt the same as a stadium, i never said it should be!! But when the material is so average what difference does a stadium make? The new tour shows played pretty much the whole new album, so why would i go to it when i didnt enjoy the live performances of them that id just seen? Friends of mine at the studio went to the show, and said it was "the exact same, only bigger with more lights".

    The OP said he/she felt the band just "showed up and played the songs". I saw a mock set up of the new show, and run downs of new songs, a few weeks before the tour, and that phrase describes what i saw. You would think they wouldnt be happy to play new material to a crowd, they were bored. I didnt dig it, there's no need for you to understand it any further. It was my loss after all.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    JordyWordy wrote:
    paulonious wrote:
    what you are saying doesn't make any sense though. you yourself state that "sure it was a long day" and it was A COMMERCIAL SHOOT. And their supposed lack of enthusiasm during their new stuff could have been due to many factors (like maybe the crowd wasn't into it), but the title of the thread you put up is "I hate U2 after seeing them live on this tour" from seeing them at a commercial shoot is ludicrous. But then you turn around at the end and say "I love this band". Which is it?

    I personally don't think I'd waste my time spending the day with even Eddie and boys if it was a commercial shoot. How boring. For the band and everyone else. I can't blame U2 for not being enthused about it. I think maybe your expectations were a bit skewed on this one.

    I didnt have any expectations because I didnt know it was a U2 ad. I do temping work in a studio regularly and this day just happened to be that gig, so i didnt choose to be there, i just happened to be. And of course the atmosphere isnt the same as a stadium, i never said it should be!! But when the material is so average what difference does a stadium make? The new tour shows played pretty much the whole new album, so why would i go to it when i didnt enjoy the live performances of them that id just seen? Friends of mine at the studio went to the show, and said it was "the exact same, only bigger with more lights".

    The OP said he/she felt the band just "showed up and played the songs". I saw a mock set up of the new show, and run downs of new songs, a few weeks before the tour, and that phrase describes what i saw. You would think they wouldnt be happy to play new material to a crowd, they were bored. I didnt dig it, there's no need for you to understand it any further. It was my loss after all.

    I can completely understand why you did what you did however free is free which doesn't happen too often.

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  • wasn't all that to be expected before seeing U2?
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  • JordyWordyJordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    g under p wrote:
    I can completely understand why you did what you did however free is free which doesn't happen too often.
    Peace
    Man i must have worded my first post badly! :lol: The tickets weren't free! they were €60 or so.

    At least i got paid for being at the studio 8-)
  • 1STmammal2wearPants1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 2,948
    for 70 bucks after all fees for general admission down on the field, that's pretty affordable for the best spots at the show for such a huge band.....don't care if it's choreographed or not i guess, since i only plan on seein em this one time, for a while anyways. but yeah, if pearl jam did this, you can bet i wouldn't see them more than once either. thankfully, they greatly mix it up all the time, more than any band i know on earth.
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  • for 70 bucks after all fees for general admission down on the field, that's pretty affordable for the best spots at the show for such a huge band.....don't care if it's choreographed or not i guess, since i only plan on seein em this one time, for a while anyways. but yeah, if pearl jam did this, you can bet i wouldn't see them more than once either. thankfully, they greatly mix it up all the time, more than any band i know on earth.

    you gotta expand your live show listenings then, numerous bands mix it up a lot more than PJ if that is what you are after
  • 1STmammal2wearPants1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 2,948
    for 70 bucks after all fees for general admission down on the field, that's pretty affordable for the best spots at the show for such a huge band.....don't care if it's choreographed or not i guess, since i only plan on seein em this one time, for a while anyways. but yeah, if pearl jam did this, you can bet i wouldn't see them more than once either. thankfully, they greatly mix it up all the time, more than any band i know on earth.

    you gotta expand your live show listenings then, numerous bands mix it up a lot more than PJ if that is what you are after

    hahaha. i go to live shows all the time. pearl jam takes the cake out of any of the bands i've seen, and have a back catalog to pick from. seriously......paul mccartney, radiohead, ac/dc, billy joel, all of these folks...seen em all -- all huge acts-- none of em mix it up like pearl jam does. even the indie acts i see. they may mix up the order sometimes, but a lot of em stick to the same catalog. pearl jam, out of the hundreds of shows ive been to, mix it up the most, and many would agree. ed takes great care in doing this every night.
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  • 1STmammal2wearPants1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 2,948
    lots of general admission tickets left on TM for Monday night's show at Gillette too for those that are interested!
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