Why do people hate Yoko Ono?
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I never understood it frankly. John suggested sexism was an underlying message in it. And that seems like it played a part.
But the old joke of "Yoko broke up the beatles" I think is one of the more ridiculous claims ever made. Anyone who knows anything about the Beatles, knows that by the end there, by Abbey Road and Let it Be, and even during the White Album the band was really fighting amongst themselves. Sure I bet John insisting that Yoko hang around the recording studios all the time was sort of agrivating to Paul, George and Ringo, but to make the suggestion that Yoko is the reason that the Beatles, the greatest band in history broke up? Proposterous.
It seems like John loved Yoko very much, even now, you often, hear Yoko, invoking John's name in speaking about political issues and peace and all that. So its clear, she had a huge influence on him. And vice versa.
Her music is odd, and her voice is odd, but to suggest such a blasphemous statement as you often hear, is so stupid and petty.
By Let it Be, the band had had enough of each other. That whole film, didnt capture the band making music, as much as it did, show the breaking up of the most important band in history. Paul and George would argue, about the sound of whatever, and it would obviously have nothing to do with Yoko or John.
But the old joke of "Yoko broke up the beatles" I think is one of the more ridiculous claims ever made. Anyone who knows anything about the Beatles, knows that by the end there, by Abbey Road and Let it Be, and even during the White Album the band was really fighting amongst themselves. Sure I bet John insisting that Yoko hang around the recording studios all the time was sort of agrivating to Paul, George and Ringo, but to make the suggestion that Yoko is the reason that the Beatles, the greatest band in history broke up? Proposterous.
It seems like John loved Yoko very much, even now, you often, hear Yoko, invoking John's name in speaking about political issues and peace and all that. So its clear, she had a huge influence on him. And vice versa.
Her music is odd, and her voice is odd, but to suggest such a blasphemous statement as you often hear, is so stupid and petty.
By Let it Be, the band had had enough of each other. That whole film, didnt capture the band making music, as much as it did, show the breaking up of the most important band in history. Paul and George would argue, about the sound of whatever, and it would obviously have nothing to do with Yoko or John.
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right, as I said, Yoko was probably one factor, but anyone with a passing knowledge in the history of the Beatles, knows all the members of the band were fighting at the end. And all the fights werent involving how much Paul, Ringo and George hated Yoko. As I said, the Let it Be documentary is more about the band fighting than the actual creation of the album. I remember a scene with Paul and George fighting, and it didnt involve Yoko or John in the slightest.
Was Yoko a factor, probably, but I also think you had 4 band mates who had 4 very different views on how music should be made, and what direction they should go in. I think that was a major factor. I also think the fact they seemed to be kind of sick of each other by the end there played a factor,
I have read it, and if I am thinking of the same thing, this was the 1980 interview, a few months before his assassination.
Yoko was blamed for the beatles demise way before that.
I also, just sort of think its absurd, on its face to suggest this person, Yoko Ono was the reason the Beatles broke up. So if John never got involved with her, they would have been continuing to make music? I dont think so.
As I said, its more likely, you had 4 people who had changed radically, personally and as a group since those early days in Hamburg. You had each beatle getting their own few songs each album to explore their own personal musical trip (George-WIthin you, without you, While my Guitar etc, Ringo-Dont Pass Me By, etc...), and I think all 4 were sort of ready to try to do their own thing.
Why isnt Patti blamed for the breakup as she undoubtedly influenced George?
I I dont think its easy to get flyinwhole. Often times, Yoko is referenced solely as "the person who broke up the beatles". As I said, I think that is wildly ridiculous and unfair. How could she possibly be the reason for the breakup?
Her causing the band to get in arguments explains arguments about her and John. But it certainly doesnt explain the arguments that broke out between Paul and George and all the others.
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i think they started evolving their tastes from catchy, poppy love songs and were going in different directions. Paul seemed to like a certain type of music and John and George were going different ways, too.
i think i read for the White Album they pretty much worked on their own songs without much or any input from the others.
i never got the hatred towards her, either. although....i did dislike when they released the John Lennon anthology box set Yoko took a few pages of the booklet to talk about John having an affair. sure, it was a dickish thing but it didn't belong in his anthology liner notes!
not sure how true it is but i read John had wanted to quit the band but Paul talked him into waiting until after 'Let It Be' was released then announced publicly he was quitting the band. George obviously was done when he stormed off after that fight in that documentary but ended up coming back
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But they were at their end and what I find amazing about the Let It Be video is the performance of "Let It Be." How those four guys put aside all their bitterness to record such a great song is beyond me.
Yoko was in the studio offering input from Sgt Pepper onward. There were disagreements about her being there from the get go. John gave virtually gave her his vote in the Beatles-ocracy.
John and Yoko's smack habit surely didn't help.
i could see how that could be annoying from the other 3's perspective
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George stormed out of the Twickenham sessions because of a disagreement with John and Yoko, who were acting like smacked-out assholes. It had nothing to do with the fight w/ Paul in the movie. It was Paul who convinced George (and later John) to come back to the band. The Beatles were Paul's baby and he ultimately decided if they still existed or not.
the Yoko/Beatles theory, in my opinion, was the benchmark for the idea that women are responsible for the break up of bands. that's ridiculous. it's almost always one of two things:
1) drugs
2) ego
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BTW, Yoko's art sucks....and she is possibly the worst singer in history.
when john fell in love with yoko, he really fell hard, and likewise with her. I'm sure the other guys saw a huge change in how he lived his life and thus influenced the band. john and yoko were so publicly pronounced in their love, it was the easiest thing for the media to latch onto that, and then some of the general public, some don't always like change, latched onto it, and before you know it...yoko broke up the beatles.
change is inevitable, progress is optional. the Beatles would have changed anyway for better or worse, who knows.
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I just watched the U.S. vs John Lennon last week... a fantastic documentary about John being hounded by the FBI while he was living with Yoko in NYC. I love seeing footage of those two.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.