Backspacer being first PJ album to go Platinum since Yield

BM67227BM67227 Posts: 15
edited September 2009 in The Porch
Do you think Backspacer will sell a million albums in this day and age of illegal downloading and shitty music? What do you think and why? I say yes...the fixer is appealing to a different group of people and the sound of this album seems like it very listener friendly. I feel some old fans will resurface and some young new fans will discover the best band in the world!
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  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562
    If it goes GOLD that would be a massive accomplishment
  • There does not seem to be anywhere near the buzz of Self titled, which sold 700,000+. In this day and age, there will be no significant second single on radio, so I would say 400,000-500,000.
  • Wont get near a million.
    However unless there is a big commercial release on the 20th Backspacer stands a very good chance of debuting at #1.
    The last PJ record to do that was No Code!
    Not that it matters but it would be nice.
  • TT8270TT8270 Posts: 429
    In no way it will sell million copies. Like you said, it's times like these that make it not to sell.
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  • It looks like albums by Sean Kingston and Three Days Grace are released on 9/22. Both of those could probably sell more than Backspacer.
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,760
    It looks like albums by Sean Kingston and Three Days Grace are released on 9/22. Both of those could probably sell more than Backspacer.

    not many albums do a million anymore.. pearl jam hasn't done it in a long time.

    even for the albums they sell.. there best week is the first week... and the decline is huge. Albums used to be able to stay in the top 20 for months/years. Now most rock artists get that first week, and it dwindles from there.

    I still wonder if the vs. record for most albums in a week would ever of been broken if they didn't change the math involved (vs. were actual albums sold, they changed the match to albums shipped which is bullcrap).
  • Thorns2010Thorns2010 Posts: 2,201
    It really depends on how heavy Target promotes/pushes this album.

    I'm amused by the person who said it'd be amazing if it went Gold.

    Even Riot Act and Binaural have gone gold, and most consider those as their weakest albums, and with the backing of Target on this, I find it hard to believe that it would sell less than Riot Act.

    I'd say 300,000 in the first week is a pretty good bet, and if they do get a second radio hit out of this album, it has a chance, a slim one I'll admit, but a chance at Platinum.
  • its_okits_ok Posts: 200
    It looks like albums by Sean Kingston and Three Days Grace are released on 9/22. Both of those could probably sell more than Backspacer.

    Never heard of them...are they supposed to sell better than PJ? What has the world come to? :oops:
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  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    Zod wrote:

    not many albums do a million anymore.. pearl jam hasn't done it in a long time.


    I read somewhere that Self-titled actually sold more than a million worldwide, but only the 700,000-750,000 range in the US.
  • There does not seem to be anywhere near the buzz of Self titled, which sold 700,000+. In this day and age, there will be no significant second single on radio, so I would say 400,000-500,000.

    Force Of Nature and Amongst The Waves both sound like they could be successful singles, very catchy stuff.
  • There does not seem to be anywhere near the buzz of Self titled, which sold 700,000+. In this day and age, there will be no significant second single on radio, so I would say 400,000-500,000.

    Force Of Nature and Amongst The Waves both sound like they could be successful singles, very catchy stuff.

    Unfortuntaley, it does not matter if they sound good or are catchy. Only hot new artists get anything other than their lead single get pushed on to radio. The last three albums second singles were virtually ignored by radio. Which pisses me off. Life Wasted should have been much bigger. It did not even get played on my local station. And that was coming off WWS which lasted 4 weeks at #1 on the rock charts.

    Second singles make a slight dent upon their release, and then they drop off playlists. Even satelite radio dissapoints me with their decisions.
  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    its going to sell bad i think and way less than self titled but who is to say we shall see
  • Unfortuntaley, it does not matter if they sound good or are catchy. Only hot new artists get anything other than their lead single get pushed on to radio. The last three albums second singles were virtually ignored by radio. Which pisses me off. Life Wasted should have been much bigger. It did not even get played on my local station. And that was coming off WWS which lasted 4 weeks at #1 on the rock charts.

    Second singles make a slight dent upon their release, and then they drop off playlists. Even satelite radio dissapoints me with their decisions.

    I don't think there's any hard and fast rule on it, it's a case by case situation. As good as Life Wasted is, it's still not what I would consider mainstream rock, the two tracks I mentioned, seem far closer to the more direct and mainstream-friendly Pearl Jam of yesteryear. To my ears, there are two major differences from what I've heard, Ed's vocals sound a lot cleaner than they have on the last few records, and the production sounds a lot crisper and more modern, for the first time in a very long time I don't think PJ sound out of place on the radio.
  • Unfortuntaley, it does not matter if they sound good or are catchy. Only hot new artists get anything other than their lead single get pushed on to radio. The last three albums second singles were virtually ignored by radio. Which pisses me off. Life Wasted should have been much bigger. It did not even get played on my local station. And that was coming off WWS which lasted 4 weeks at #1 on the rock charts.

    Second singles make a slight dent upon their release, and then they drop off playlists. Even satelite radio dissapoints me with their decisions.

    I don't think there's any hard and fast rule on it, it's a case by case situation. As good as Life Wasted is, it's still not what I would consider mainstream rock, the two tracks I mentioned, seem far closer to the more direct and mainstream-friendly Pearl Jam of yesteryear. To my ears, there are two major differences from what I've heard, Ed's vocals sound a lot cleaner than they have on the last few records, and the production sounds a lot crisper and more modern, for the first time in a very long time I don't think PJ sound out of place on the radio.
    I agree with this 100%

    As much as I love Life Wasted, its another song you have to listen to a few dozen times to appreciate. Same with anything on the last three albums. Backspacer on the other hand seems quite catchy, and less complicated. Ed's vocals are more straight forward. It is after all, a self-decribed pop album. Ed even mentioned in an interview they made this new album less complicated because you needed a special skeleton key to unlock the previous albums.. Save You, also one of my favorite songs, was a bad single idea. Grievance, awesome song, but not for radio. Both songs I had to hear 20 or 30 times before it started to click..

    The average non-fan audience needs the song to click after just a few times of hearing it. Thats what the band seems to be accomplishing with Backspacer.
  • The average non-fan audience needs the song to click after just a few times of hearing it. Thats what the band seems to be accomplishing with Backspacer.

    Definitely. I've said it before, but this is their most direct album since Vs. I think a lot of people expected the last album to be the big return to the mainstream, and whilst it got a lot of initial attention, I don't think the songwriting was always strong enough to grab the attention of the casual fan. Even Yield turned out to be a different record than a lot of people were expecting after Given To Fly came out. It was a great record, but it wasn't quite the return to the anthemic early style that GTF hinted at. I'm not saying the new stuff sounds like the old stuff per se, but it does have the same kick to it, and the radio-friendly melodies seem to be back too.
  • couldnt care how many it sells, im buying it tthats all that matters :D
  • couldnt care how many it sells, im buying it tthats all that matters :D

    I care only because more record sales equals more shows.

    Usually.
  • couldnt care how many it sells, im buying it tthats all that matters :D

    I care only because more record sales equals more shows.

    Usually.

    Sadly, that may also mean more bandwagon jumpers at the shows, yelling for the one or two songs they know, just like people yell for "Sex On Fire" and "Use Somebody" at Kings Of Leon shows. Then we may never see "No Way" played live...or foxymop.
  • The average non-fan audience needs the song to click after just a few times of hearing it. Thats what the band seems to be accomplishing with Backspacer.

    Definitely. I've said it before, but this is their most direct album since Vs. I think a lot of people expected the last album to be the big return to the mainstream, and whilst it got a lot of initial attention, I don't think the songwriting was always strong enough to grab the attention of the casual fan. Even Yield turned out to be a different record than a lot of people were expecting after Given To Fly came out. It was a great record, but it wasn't quite the return to the anthemic early style that GTF hinted at. I'm not saying the new stuff sounds like the old stuff per se, but it does have the same kick to it, and the radio-friendly melodies seem to be back too.

    Agreed. The Fixer is still #2 on Billboard's rock songs after 6 weeks...and I think others could even do better. I do agree that mainstream music stations won't be playin PJ, but rock stations may really be pushin more of these songs than normal, which would make a difference in sales. I could envision the best sales since Yield and this could be my fav since YIELD or No Code. The albums where PJ has went "outside the box" have always been my favs. Some would say all would qualify, but thats my 2 cents.
  • "The Fixer" had the strongest debut for a single when it was released, at #56, according to billboard.com. If you haven't seen it, there's a little video with someone that had a phone interview with Stone regarding the inception of the song:

    http://www.billboard.com?bcpid=14441702 ... 7198666001
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  • I think this album will go platinum...I like the fact that got some is going to be the second single...that is a catchy song! "Got some if you need it"...last night I was watching a Beatles documentary and they were singing "Get Back"...very simple lyrics and a catchy chorus. I would love if this album took off!
    bjmac11
  • no way is this gonna go platinum.
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