Don't you DARE let your kids watch THIS!!!

gimmesometruth27

scb wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

IMO I think its crazy also but the thing that freaked people out was the language of one of the lesson plans before they changed it. What it said was that Obama wanted students K -6th to write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. and the other assignment was for them to discuss after hearing his speech was what the president wants us to do.


And not evrybody at Fox is anti Obama
http://www.parade.com/news/2009/08/09-what-obama-can-teach-americas-kids.html

Help the President do what, though? Help him get re-elected or help him lead our country in a positive direction? To me, it sounds remeniscent of "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." I think that's a positive message and can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want their kids to hear it.

Additionally, even if he spouted off a bunch of liberal propaganda, the kids who are old enough to understand it need to learn to think critically and this would be a wonderful opportunity to help learn that lesson. They're going to - and they already do - hear propaganda for the rest of their lives and they can't be shielded from all of it, so the best thing we can do for them is to teach them how to decifer it.

the problem is kids in america are not taught to think critically until late high school or early college. maybe if they taught them at an earlier age they might have a chance at decifering the propaganda.

WaveCameCrashin

JaneNY wrote:

Nice piece. That raised my opinion of O'Reilly quite a bit.

:shock: here's something you don't see everyday on amt

acoustic guy

Lauri wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

Lauri wrote:

This is the other thing, these people have to decide whether Obama is a socialist or a fascist. They're calling him both in the same breath.

...
and don't forget the communists... he's a Socialist, Commie Fascist.
Try to get them to explain that to you... and they tell you that you need to go live in Iran if you hate America so much.

that is hilarious...and scary, because it's really accurate.

I blame Fox News. For everything.

hahahahaha, FOX News is the only opposite opinion! So you blame them for not joining the other 99% of the media?
hahahahaha, "FOX NEWS.....Fair and Balanced. I love that channel. Bill O is a god. :-)
That outta get your panties in a bunch.

JaneNY

prfctlefts wrote:

JaneNY wrote:

Nice piece. That raised my opinion of O'Reilly quite a bit.

:shock: here's something you don't see everyday on amt

My feeling is credit where credit is due. I'm more about message than personality.

gimmesometruth27

it still does not change my opinion of the man. he will do something to contradict this in a few weeks i am sure.

keeponrockin

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

it still does not change my opinion of the man. he will do something to contradict this in a few weeks i am sure.

Agreed. However, it was a well written piece.

Kinda like when a shit band puts out a good song every once in a while...

gimmesometruth27

keeponrockin wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

it still does not change my opinion of the man. he will do something to contradict this in a few weeks i am sure.

Agreed. However, it was a well written piece.

Kinda like when a shit band puts out a good song every once in a while...

i still have my doubts that he wrote it. or maybe he was drunk? kind of like how sometimes some of us get drunk and think it would be a good idea to get on here and post........

aNiMaL

This is by far one of the most idiotic, insane, narrow minded, ignorant, hate breeding, campaigns the conservative right has spewed.

Anyone,and I mean ANYONE who says they don't want their kids to watch a speech from THEIR president are FUCKING MORONIC ASS HOLES. And, they deserve to have their voting rights taken away.

WaveCameCrashin

aNiMaL wrote:

This is by far one of the most idiotic, insane, narrow minded, ignorant, hate breeding, campaigns the conservative right has spewed.

Anyone,and I mean ANYONE who says they don't want their kids to watch a speech from THEIR president are FUCKING MORONIC ASS HOLES. And, they deserve to have their voting rights taken away.

Hell yeah man F*@!# the first amendment!!!!! How dare anyone disagree with Obama!! :roll:

gimmesometruth27

prfctlefts wrote:

aNiMaL wrote:

This is by far one of the most idiotic, insane, narrow minded, ignorant, hate breeding, campaigns the conservative right has spewed.

Anyone,and I mean ANYONE who says they don't want their kids to watch a speech from THEIR president are FUCKING MORONIC ASS HOLES. And, they deserve to have their voting rights taken away.

Hell yeah man F*@!# the first amendment!!!!! How dare anyone disagree with Obama!! :roll:

umm, the first ammendment has nothing to do with whether or not you agree with letting your kid listen to a speech by the president. it is the freedom of speech, which applies on this forum, not the freedom from speech. maybe if we did not stop teaching civics classes in our schools people would know this shit....there is no ammendment that guarantees peoples' right to be narrow minded imbeciles, although there should be. maybe then we will stop blaming our teachers for turning out generation after generation of morons. the blame should be placed solely on the people making decisions for the kids, mostly the parents.

WaveCameCrashin

um yes it does. It has everything to do with it weather you disagree with their decision not. These parents have every right to voice their opinion about weather or not they want their kid to listen to a speech given by the President.

The freedom to speak without censorship or limitation
The freedom to be a complete moron

gimmesometruth27

i think it is very funny how the right is reacting to this. they do not even know what he will say and they are already acting like they are outraged. here is an idea, how about we listen and hear what he has to say and then react rather than prematurely sticking your fingers in your ears and scream "la la la i cant hear what you are saying la la la" like a 4 year old......

Cosmo

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i think it is very funny how the right is reacting to this. they do not even know what he will say and they are already acting like they are outraged. here is an idea, how about we listen and hear what he has to say and then react rather than prematurely sticking your fingers in your ears and scream "la la la i cant hear what you are saying la la la" like a 4 year old......

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Remember how those people showed up at Nader Rallies in 2000 wearing suits made from tin foil and duct tape... or dressed up as an alien or in Star Terk costumes? They weren't helping.
The same principle holds true here... coming up with birth certificates... bringing loaded AR-15s to Town Hall meetings... shouting and screaming to drown out speakers at Health Care debates... crying because the President is giving talk to kids... they aren't helping the Conservatives. They are painting Conservatives as cartoonist characitures that are paranoid, gun-wielding, cry baby conspiricy theorists. They aren't helping... just like the spacemen and Klingons didn't help Nader.

Pepe Silvia

imalive wrote:

g under p wrote:

I saw that too and I couldn't believe what I was seeing, I thought someone had abducted her child. I think I saw that on Fox News?

Peace

Nope.... real news.

and most watched :roll:

do they have transcripts for their shows now? i know a about 2 years ago they didn't have them for any of their programming while MSNBC and CNN had them for all their shows. i guess it makes it easier that way

Pepe Silvia

imalive wrote:

Why do we have "outrage" and "furor" over both an attempt to reform health care and give our kids a pep talk, yet the outrage and furor over an unjust war, firing US Attorneys, outing CIA agents, etc. never seemed to get SO angry?

I actually saw some looney woman crying over the prospect of her kid listening to Obama. :?

or over because of No Child Left Behind Act middle and high schools could lose their NCLB funding if they didn't give data, profiles and contact info on kids...

gimmesometruth27

Cosmo wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i think it is very funny how the right is reacting to this. they do not even know what he will say and they are already acting like they are outraged. here is an idea, how about we listen and hear what he has to say and then react rather than prematurely sticking your fingers in your ears and scream "la la la i cant hear what you are saying la la la" like a 4 year old......

...
Remember how those people showed up at Nader Rallies in 2000 wearing suits made from tin foil and duct tape... or dressed up as an alien or in Star Terk costumes? They weren't helping.
The same principle holds true here... coming up with birth certificates... bringing loaded AR-15s to Town Hall meetings... shouting and screaming to drown out speakers at Health Care debates... crying because the President is giving talk to kids... they aren't helping the Conservatives. They are painting Conservatives as cartoonist characitures that are paranoid, gun-wielding, cry baby conspiricy theorists. They aren't helping... just like the spacemen and Klingons didn't help Nader.

this is exactly what is happening now. the conservatives are letting these wingnuts become the mainstream of their party. this is all i am seeing on tv nowadays. images of these people crying, carrying guns to political rallies, throwing lipton tea bags, bringing fake birth certificates, calling obama the antichrist, saying he is going to indoctrinate their kids when as a kid i sat through reagan and bush speeches, etc etc...i am a lifelong democrat, but i feel sorry for the true staunch conservatives and lifelong republicans that are being hurt by these people. these people will make any halfway rational person avoid any candidate the gop were to run for any office. if this is what the mainstream of the GOP is going to be from now on, i think they are going to be in a world of hurt for the next 12 years.

tvismyfriend

prfctlefts wrote:

um yes it does. It has everything to do with it weather you disagree with their decision not. These parents have every right to voice their opinion about weather or not they want their kid to listen to a speech given by the President.

The freedom to speak without censorship or limitation
The freedom to be a complete moron

What if John McCain wanted to tell the youth of America to study and try their best, would you have a problem with that?

Smellyman

blackredyellow

And now that the speech is harmless, the crazy end of the right will claim that it was changed because of their "uproar", and the other 90% of the population will hear the innocent speech and see it as just another example of manufactured partisan outrage.

The sad thing is, instead of feeling like they've been used (yet again) by their right wing radio hosts, they will walk away feeling vindicated and that their concern was valid and move onto the next molehill to turn into a mountain.

I just can't comprehend the partisanship, hatred and fear of someone being so deep that you wouldn't let your kid watch the President of the United States.

Gern Blansten

blackredyellow wrote:

And now that the speech is harmless, the crazy end of the right will claim that it was changed because of their "uproar", and the other 90% of the population will hear the innocent speech and see it as just another example of manufactured partisan outrage.

The sad thing is, instead of feeling like they've been used (yet again) by their right wing radio hosts, they will walk away feeling vindicated and that their concern was valid and move onto the next molehill to turn into a mountain.

I just can't comprehend the partisanship, hatred and fear of someone being so deep that you wouldn't let your kid watch the President of the United States.

exactly....I was happy to see Laura Bush say that the uproar was ridiculous too.