Just wanted to say.......

OnTheEdge

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the ...gover......nment does not first take from someone else. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

blackredyellow

mb262200 wrote:

And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

Welcome to our government for the past 80+ years.

Cosmo

blackredyellow wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

Welcome to our government for the past 80+ years.

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Aren't we still paying to debts we incurred from the Viet Nam War? And the Iraq War alone... our kids will be paying for that one.
I don't understand how anyone is surprized how things are done around here.

Cosmo

mb262200 wrote:

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the ...gover......nment does not first take from someone else. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

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I don't think anyone is looking to get the poor into the penthouse. How about giving them a hand up? Or is stepping over them like they don't exist acceptable?

OnTheEdge

blackredyellow wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

Welcome to our government for the past 80+ years.

No need to welcome me....i've been around for a while.

OnTheEdge

Cosmo wrote:

blackredyellow wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

Welcome to our government for the past 80+ years.

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Aren't we still paying to debts we incurred from the Viet Nam War? And the Iraq War alone... our kids will be paying for that one.
I don't understand how anyone is surprized how things are done around here.

Yes, my child also, i'm not suprised...if you read the title it says " just wanted to say" thats all. but before this post is over with I bet I get called a racists

Cosmo

mb262200 wrote:

Yes, my child also, i'm not suprised...if you read the title it says " just wanted to say" thats all. but before this post is over with I bet I get called a racists

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That all depends on what you say...
For example, if you say, "I ain't gonna do anything that Obama says... I ain't listenin' to no nigger."
Then, yes, you will probably be called a racist by someone... so, it's not a fair bet.

gimmesometruth27

mb262200 wrote:

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the ...gover......nment does not first take from someone else. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

dude i am sorry, but i doubt that the wealthy "will fall out of prosperity" like you say. you need to stop being so dramatic. the sky is not falling down on our heads.....what do they say, wealth creates more wealth? so i am sure you will be fine....as if the public option is going to pass anyway.

i am happy for your success but i resent your selfishness in this situation. most people on here have said they are not completely against health care reform and most of them have said they would not be opposed to paying some extra taxes to make sure everyone has coverage. i think that this is quite a reasonable proposition.

here is an idea, you look out for yourself and your family and when you get to age 65 don't use medicare, rather be self insured. that will free up a few thousand a year that can be used by someone else. we are all in this situation together and i believe we have a moral responsibility to help each other out and guarantee health care coverage for everyone.

Byrnzie

mb262200 wrote:

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the ...gover......nment does not first take from someone else. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

It's called paying taxes. Something you've been doing for years. Nothing new there. I don't hear anybody here complaining when their tax money is being spent on murdering over 1 million Iraqi's in a bullshit war. I just hear people complaining about their tax money being spent on helping sick people at home. Go figure!

OnTheEdge

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the ...gover......nment does not first take from someone else. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

dude i am sorry, but i doubt that the wealthy "will fall out of prosperity" like you say. you need to stop being so dramatic. the sky is not falling down on our heads.....what do they say, wealth creates more wealth? so i am sure you will be fine....as if the public option is going to pass anyway.

i am happy for your success but i resent your selfishness in this situation. most people on here have said they are not completely against health care reform and most of them have said they would not be opposed to paying some extra taxes to make sure everyone has coverage. i think that this is quite a reasonable proposition.

here is an idea, you look out for yourself and your family and when you get to age 65 don't use medicare, rather be self insured. that will free up a few thousand a year that can be used by someone else. we are all in this situation together and i believe we have a moral responsibility to help each other out and guarantee health care coverage for everyone.

I'm not wealthy by any means, and I work hard and earn what little I do have and i'm proud of that......maybe you should try it.

OnTheEdge

Byrnzie wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the ...gover......nment does not first take from someone else. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

It's called paying taxes. Something you've been doing for years. Nothing new there. I don't hear anybody here complaining when their tax money is being spent on murdering over 1 million Iraqi's in a bullshit war. I just hear people complaining about their tax money being spent on helping sick people at home. Go figure!

That's funny, I hear all kinds of people complaining about Iraq....including myself.

OnTheEdge

mb262200 wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the ...gover......nment does not first take from someone else. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

dude i am sorry, but i doubt that the wealthy "will fall out of prosperity" like you say. you need to stop being so dramatic. the sky is not falling down on our heads.....what do they say, wealth creates more wealth? so i am sure you will be fine....as if the public option is going to pass anyway.

i am happy for your success but i resent your selfishness in this situation. most people on here have said they are not completely against health care reform and most of them have said they would not be opposed to paying some extra taxes to make sure everyone has coverage. i think that this is quite a reasonable proposition.

here is an idea, you look out for yourself and your family and when you get to age 65 don't use medicare, rather be self insured. that will free up a few thousand a year that can be used by someone else. we are all in this situation together and i believe we have a moral responsibility to help each other out and guarantee health care coverage for everyone.

I'm not wealthy by any means, and I work hard and earn what little I do have and i'm proud of that......maybe you should try it.

And oh ya,when we're 65 do you really think that government health care is really going to care about you under this new reform?...NOT! Have you heard of the Czars?

Cosmo

mb262200 wrote:

And oh ya,when we're 65 do you really think that government health care is really going to care about you under this new reform?...NOT! Have you heard of the Czars?

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No, i haven't. Please, explain the Czars to me.

OnTheEdge

Cosmo wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

And oh ya,when we're 65 do you really think that government health care is really going to care about you under this new reform?...NOT! Have you heard of the Czars?

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No, i haven't. Please, explain the Czars to me.

well, I know you probably don't like Beck but give him a listen with an open mind. It can't hurt.

gimmesometruth27

mb262200 wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the ...gover......nment does not first take from someone else. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

dude i am sorry, but i doubt that the wealthy "will fall out of prosperity" like you say. you need to stop being so dramatic. the sky is not falling down on our heads.....what do they say, wealth creates more wealth? so i am sure you will be fine....as if the public option is going to pass anyway.

i am happy for your success but i resent your selfishness in this situation. most people on here have said they are not completely against health care reform and most of them have said they would not be opposed to paying some extra taxes to make sure everyone has coverage. i think that this is quite a reasonable proposition.

here is an idea, you look out for yourself and your family and when you get to age 65 don't use medicare, rather be self insured. that will free up a few thousand a year that can be used by someone else. we are all in this situation together and i believe we have a moral responsibility to help each other out and guarantee health care coverage for everyone.

I'm not wealthy by any means, and I work hard and earn what little I do have and i'm proud of that......maybe you should try it.

i do work hard for what i have. i have my career, a part time business, and my band, all of which contribute to my wealth and my decent net worth. you should not presume that just because i am for single payor health insurance that i am poor and wanting to live off of your taxes. i do just fine on my own thank you very much. i just recognize there is a problem with the health care system and i do not mind paying taxes to care for the least of god's people. but since you are offering me a suggestion on how to live my life let me say this to you, maybe you should try having some compassion and a little humanity for those less fortunate than you.

Cosmo

mb262200 wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

And oh ya,when we're 65 do you really think that government health care is really going to care about you under this new reform?...NOT! Have you heard of the Czars?

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No, i haven't. Please, explain the Czars to me.

well, I know you probably don't like Beck but give him a listen with an open mind. It can't hurt.

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I'm not asking Glen Beck.. I'm asking YOU. What did Glen Beck teach YOU about the 'Czars' and why are they going to be my downfall when i turn 65?
If you know nothing about the 'Czars', then you should not refer to them in your arguements.

gimmesometruth27

mb262200 wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

And oh ya,when we're 65 do you really think that government health care is really going to care about you under this new reform?...NOT! Have you heard of the Czars?

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No, i haven't. Please, explain the Czars to me.

well, I know you probably don't like Beck but give him a listen with an open mind. It can't hurt.

there it is, glenn beck. congratulations on losing all of your credibility in this discussion.

gimmesometruth27

please tell me about "the czars". i am dying to hear it.

OnTheEdge

To Gimmesometruth, read your last quote to me and then read your first quote to me. I simply did what you did.

Cosmo

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

there it is, glenn beck. congratulations on losing all of your credibility in this discussion.

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If he meant Beck (Hanson) then... okay, a benefit of the doubt because I like Beck and would have figured there was a new song about the Czars or Cosacks or Anastasia or the BattleShip Potyomkin.
If he meant Jeff Beck... then, i'm in. Jeff Beck is the original bad-ass guitarist.

gimmesometruth27

mb262200 wrote:

To Gimmesometruth, read your last quote to me and then read your first quote to me. I simply did what you did.

what are you talking about?

tell us about the czars.

actually i will just look it up myself. probably get a better source then beck that way.