Just wanted to say.......

OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
edited September 2009 in A Moving Train
You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the ...gover......nment does not first take from someone else. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!
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  • mb262200 wrote:
    And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

    Welcome to our government for the past 80+ years.
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    mb262200 wrote:
    And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

    Welcome to our government for the past 80+ years.
    ...
    Aren't we still paying to debts we incurred from the Viet Nam War? And the Iraq War alone... our kids will be paying for that one.
    I don't understand how anyone is surprized how things are done around here.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    mb262200 wrote:
    You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the ...gover......nment does not first take from someone else. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

    And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!
    ...
    I don't think anyone is looking to get the poor into the penthouse. How about giving them a hand up? Or is stepping over them like they don't exist acceptable?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    mb262200 wrote:
    And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

    Welcome to our government for the past 80+ years.


    No need to welcome me....i've been around for a while.
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Cosmo wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

    Welcome to our government for the past 80+ years.
    ...
    Aren't we still paying to debts we incurred from the Viet Nam War? And the Iraq War alone... our kids will be paying for that one.
    I don't understand how anyone is surprized how things are done around here.

    Yes, my child also, i'm not suprised...if you read the title it says " just wanted to say" thats all. but before this post is over with I bet I get called a racists :lol::lol::lol:
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    mb262200 wrote:
    Yes, my child also, i'm not suprised...if you read the title it says " just wanted to say" thats all. but before this post is over with I bet I get called a racists :lol::lol::lol:
    ...
    That all depends on what you say...
    For example, if you say, "I ain't gonna do anything that Obama says... I ain't listenin' to no nigger."
    Then, yes, you will probably be called a racist by someone... so, it's not a fair bet.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    mb262200 wrote:
    You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the ...gover......nment does not first take from someone else. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

    And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!
    dude i am sorry, but i doubt that the wealthy "will fall out of prosperity" like you say. you need to stop being so dramatic. the sky is not falling down on our heads.....what do they say, wealth creates more wealth? so i am sure you will be fine....as if the public option is going to pass anyway.

    i am happy for your success but i resent your selfishness in this situation. most people on here have said they are not completely against health care reform and most of them have said they would not be opposed to paying some extra taxes to make sure everyone has coverage. i think that this is quite a reasonable proposition.

    here is an idea, you look out for yourself and your family and when you get to age 65 don't use medicare, rather be self insured. that will free up a few thousand a year that can be used by someone else. we are all in this situation together and i believe we have a moral responsibility to help each other out and guarantee health care coverage for everyone.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    mb262200 wrote:
    You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the ...gover......nment does not first take from someone else. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

    And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

    It's called paying taxes. Something you've been doing for years. Nothing new there. I don't hear anybody here complaining when their tax money is being spent on murdering over 1 million Iraqi's in a bullshit war. I just hear people complaining about their tax money being spent on helping sick people at home. Go figure!
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    mb262200 wrote:
    You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the ...gover......nment does not first take from someone else. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

    And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!
    dude i am sorry, but i doubt that the wealthy "will fall out of prosperity" like you say. you need to stop being so dramatic. the sky is not falling down on our heads.....what do they say, wealth creates more wealth? so i am sure you will be fine....as if the public option is going to pass anyway.

    i am happy for your success but i resent your selfishness in this situation. most people on here have said they are not completely against health care reform and most of them have said they would not be opposed to paying some extra taxes to make sure everyone has coverage. i think that this is quite a reasonable proposition.

    here is an idea, you look out for yourself and your family and when you get to age 65 don't use medicare, rather be self insured. that will free up a few thousand a year that can be used by someone else. we are all in this situation together and i believe we have a moral responsibility to help each other out and guarantee health care coverage for everyone.

    I'm not wealthy by any means, and I work hard and earn what little I do have and i'm proud of that......maybe you should try it.
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Byrnzie wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the ...gover......nment does not first take from someone else. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

    And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!

    It's called paying taxes. Something you've been doing for years. Nothing new there. I don't hear anybody here complaining when their tax money is being spent on murdering over 1 million Iraqi's in a bullshit war. I just hear people complaining about their tax money being spent on helping sick people at home. Go figure!


    That's funny, I hear all kinds of people complaining about Iraq....including myself.
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    mb262200 wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the ...gover......nment does not first take from someone else. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

    And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!
    dude i am sorry, but i doubt that the wealthy "will fall out of prosperity" like you say. you need to stop being so dramatic. the sky is not falling down on our heads.....what do they say, wealth creates more wealth? so i am sure you will be fine....as if the public option is going to pass anyway.

    i am happy for your success but i resent your selfishness in this situation. most people on here have said they are not completely against health care reform and most of them have said they would not be opposed to paying some extra taxes to make sure everyone has coverage. i think that this is quite a reasonable proposition.

    here is an idea, you look out for yourself and your family and when you get to age 65 don't use medicare, rather be self insured. that will free up a few thousand a year that can be used by someone else. we are all in this situation together and i believe we have a moral responsibility to help each other out and guarantee health care coverage for everyone.

    I'm not wealthy by any means, and I work hard and earn what little I do have and i'm proud of that......maybe you should try it.


    And oh ya,when we're 65 do you really think that government health care is really going to care about you under this new reform?...NOT! Have you heard of the Czars?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    mb262200 wrote:
    And oh ya,when we're 65 do you really think that government health care is really going to care about you under this new reform?...NOT! Have you heard of the Czars?
    ...
    No, i haven't. Please, explain the Czars to me.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Cosmo wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    And oh ya,when we're 65 do you really think that government health care is really going to care about you under this new reform?...NOT! Have you heard of the Czars?
    ...
    No, i haven't. Please, explain the Czars to me.

    well, I know you probably don't like Beck but give him a listen with an open mind. It can't hurt.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    mb262200 wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the ...gover......nment does not first take from someone else. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

    And the president took for granted, writing checks on others pay!!!!!
    dude i am sorry, but i doubt that the wealthy "will fall out of prosperity" like you say. you need to stop being so dramatic. the sky is not falling down on our heads.....what do they say, wealth creates more wealth? so i am sure you will be fine....as if the public option is going to pass anyway.

    i am happy for your success but i resent your selfishness in this situation. most people on here have said they are not completely against health care reform and most of them have said they would not be opposed to paying some extra taxes to make sure everyone has coverage. i think that this is quite a reasonable proposition.

    here is an idea, you look out for yourself and your family and when you get to age 65 don't use medicare, rather be self insured. that will free up a few thousand a year that can be used by someone else. we are all in this situation together and i believe we have a moral responsibility to help each other out and guarantee health care coverage for everyone.

    I'm not wealthy by any means, and I work hard and earn what little I do have and i'm proud of that......maybe you should try it.
    i do work hard for what i have. i have my career, a part time business, and my band, all of which contribute to my wealth and my decent net worth. you should not presume that just because i am for single payor health insurance that i am poor and wanting to live off of your taxes. i do just fine on my own thank you very much. i just recognize there is a problem with the health care system and i do not mind paying taxes to care for the least of god's people. but since you are offering me a suggestion on how to live my life let me say this to you, maybe you should try having some compassion and a little humanity for those less fortunate than you.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    mb262200 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    And oh ya,when we're 65 do you really think that government health care is really going to care about you under this new reform?...NOT! Have you heard of the Czars?
    ...
    No, i haven't. Please, explain the Czars to me.

    well, I know you probably don't like Beck but give him a listen with an open mind. It can't hurt.
    ...
    I'm not asking Glen Beck.. I'm asking YOU. What did Glen Beck teach YOU about the 'Czars' and why are they going to be my downfall when i turn 65?
    If you know nothing about the 'Czars', then you should not refer to them in your arguements.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    mb262200 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    And oh ya,when we're 65 do you really think that government health care is really going to care about you under this new reform?...NOT! Have you heard of the Czars?
    ...
    No, i haven't. Please, explain the Czars to me.

    well, I know you probably don't like Beck but give him a listen with an open mind. It can't hurt.
    there it is, glenn beck. congratulations on losing all of your credibility in this discussion.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    please tell me about "the czars". i am dying to hear it.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    To Gimmesometruth, read your last quote to me and then read your first quote to me. I simply did what you did.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    there it is, glenn beck. congratulations on losing all of your credibility in this discussion.
    ...
    If he meant Beck (Hanson) then... okay, a benefit of the doubt because I like Beck and would have figured there was a new song about the Czars or Cosacks or Anastasia or the BattleShip Potyomkin.
    If he meant Jeff Beck... then, i'm in. Jeff Beck is the original bad-ass guitarist.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    mb262200 wrote:
    To Gimmesometruth, read your last quote to me and then read your first quote to me. I simply did what you did.
    what are you talking about?

    tell us about the czars.

    actually i will just look it up myself. probably get a better source then beck that way.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    COSMO......I don't feel like writing a book, educate yourself. And GIMMESOMETRUTH....if it discredits myself to watch Beck..whatever, I watch alot of political news on both sides. I just try to educate myself as much as possible.
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    mb262200 wrote:
    To Gimmesometruth, read your last quote to me and then read your first quote to me. I simply did what you did.
    what are you talking about?

    tell us about the czars.

    actually i will just look it up myself. probably get a better source then beck that way.


    well, if you find a better source fill me in on it ok, i'm open to it.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    mb262200 wrote:
    COSMO......I don't feel like writing a book, educate yourself. And GIMMESOMETRUTH....if it discredits myself to watch Beck..whatever, I watch alot of political news on both sides. I just try to educate myself as much as possible.
    yeah, i am trying to educate myself about these "czars" since you will not post links for us.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    mb262200 wrote:
    To Gimmesometruth, read your last quote to me and then read your first quote to me. I simply did what you did.
    what are you talking about?

    tell us about the czars.

    actually i will just look it up myself. probably get a better source then beck that way.


    In your first Quote you simply thought I was wealthy from what I wrote.....so in return, I simply figured you were poor from what you wrote, kind of ironic isn't it......someone would think I was the wealthy one and you were the poor one.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    mb262200 wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    To Gimmesometruth, read your last quote to me and then read your first quote to me. I simply did what you did.
    what are you talking about?

    tell us about the czars.

    actually i will just look it up myself. probably get a better source then beck that way.


    In your first Quote you simply thought I was wealthy from what I wrote.....so in return, I simply figured you were poor from what you wrote, kind of ironic isn't it......someone would think I was the wealthy one and you were the poor one.
    i was going by your rants in the other thread you created about coming from nothing and how the government was going to steal from you to give health care to the poor people who chose to get sick and do not deserve it. typical rich white man's rant from the right that i have been hearing for years. it doesnt matter, i disagree with you and believe you are wrong on this issue.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    mb262200 wrote:
    COSMO......I don't feel like writing a book, educate yourself. And GIMMESOMETRUTH....if it discredits myself to watch Beck..whatever, I watch alot of political news on both sides. I just try to educate myself as much as possible.
    yeah, i am trying to educate myself about these "czars" since you will not post links for us.


    I can't find links to post. As far as I know Beck is the only one reporting on it.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    so i googled health czar and got several biased blogs from both sides that i am not going to bother posting or reading on a friday night. the only real source was a time magazine article from march 2009 that does not really apply right now.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    mb262200 wrote:
    COSMO......I don't feel like writing a book, educate yourself. And GIMMESOMETRUTH....if it discredits myself to watch Beck..whatever, I watch alot of political news on both sides. I just try to educate myself as much as possible.
    ...
    I recognize bullshit when I smell it... this translates into:
    "COSMO... I really don't know shit about the czars... but, i heard Glen Beck talking about them on the T.V., so it must be important or something. I don't know why the Obama health care is bad... i just know that the people I watch on the T.V. say it's bad... so, it must be bad. So, educate yourself by watching the T.V. because that's there the educate comes from."
    ...
    If you DID know something... a couple of paragraphs would do the trick. and last time i checked.. a book was longer than a couple of paragraphs.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    so i googled health czar and got several biased blogs from both sides that i am not going to bother posting or reading on a friday night. the only real source was a time magazine article from march 2009 that does not really apply right now.


    thats cool, but there is not only health czars, there are 32 czars surrounding Obama in the white house...maybe(who freakin knows who is telling the truth these days), all depends on who you want to listen to I guess but in all open minded honesty, I think everybody should pay attention to this issue, everything is worth looking into isn't it? I think everybody should stop labeling themselves democrat and republican and start labeling ourselves as simply an american citizen.
  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Cosmo wrote:
    mb262200 wrote:
    COSMO......I don't feel like writing a book, educate yourself. And GIMMESOMETRUTH....if it discredits myself to watch Beck..whatever, I watch alot of political news on both sides. I just try to educate myself as much as possible.
    ...
    I recognize bullshit when I smell it... this translates into:
    "COSMO... I really don't know shit about the czars... but, i heard Glen Beck talking about them on the T.V., so it must be important or something. I don't know why the Obama health care is bad... i just know that the people I watch on the T.V. say it's bad... so, it must be bad. So, educate yourself by watching the T.V. because that's there the educate comes from."
    ...
    If you DID know something... a couple of paragraphs would do the trick. and last time i checked.. a book was longer than a couple of paragraphs.

    In all honesty....no, I wouldn't know how to write a couple of paragraphs on it...i'm not a writer and it's hard to explain. Does that mean it's not worth looking into for yourself?
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