Are you Free?

JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
edited September 2009 in A Moving Train
You are only free if you are free.

Here’s the thing - if you behave like a slave you are a slave. So, if you feel your freedom and liberty are being violated, then it is up to you to change that.

We need not ask permission to be free. We need not ask permission to be sovereign. Doing so implies that we are subjects who are owned rather than beings born with inalienable rights to liberty. When we complain that our rights are being violated, it is only ourselves whom we have to blame. We are allowing our rights to be violated and in many ways we are (albeit unknowingly) waving our rights.

While it is our own fault, it’s not anything we did purposefully. This stifling of our own liberty is a condition that has grown on us like a slowly mutating virus over the last several decades, and it began small and seemingly benign. But rest assured folks, we have steadily accepted and agreed to the chains we now find on our wrists. In many cases, we even clasped the shackles ourselves and voluntarily handed over the keys.

Here’s how….

There are Americans, and then there are United States Citizens. These are not one in the same. If you are born on this land, you are an American. Period. However, when we take certain actions, we are voluntarily becoming “United States Citizens” which is essentially a government corporation. All government rules and “laws” and regulations apply to the corporation, and not to the sovereign born American natural person. Over the years, we have slowly but surely been indoctrinated and lured into the corporation by agreeing to participate in programs because we wanted some sort of government benefit from it. Aye, therein lies the rub! We are asking for a handout (even though in many cases it’s unknowingly nowadays) and by doing so we are showing our naked wrists and locking the shackles ourselves. Here are but a few examples.

Social Security: this is an OPTIONAL program. When you agree to participate you are essentially agreeing to become government property, and are therefore subject to rules and regulations that are for “citizens” of the “corporation”. Now, we automatically subject our children to this system, and in most cases it never even occurs to us not to subject them. But there is absolutely no law that says that you must participate in social security. Imagine that!

Birth Certificates: Think about this. Why are we asking our government to certify that we have been born? This has to do with maritime law and ownership of traded property. When we “certify” our children, they become property of the US Government.

Marriage Certificates: This is a three-way contract between you, your spouse and the State. You are voluntarily entering into a relationship with the State and agreeing that any product of your marriage is State Property. Which is how they are able to have jurisdiction with child “protection” agencies.

W2 and W4 forms. You sign these because your employer tells you to do so. They demand it because the government requires that they do because they are corporations. Corporations are subject to corporate law…the law of the United States. As an voluntary employee of such, you become obligated to give up part of your earned money, called “wages”.

Agreeing to be a fictional entity: Take notice that your name is in capital letters on many official documents. That is the fictional “you” that is created when you get a birth certificate, social security card, etc. When you use documentation on which your name appears this way, you are consistently agreeing that you are part of the corporation.

These are but a few examples. There are hundreds of ways in which we are indoctrinated. We sign hundreds of documents and certificates and licenses, figuring we have to. We blindly follow the compulsory actions of everyone else without ever questioning why we are doing it. In most cases we do it assuming that we are enjoying some sort of benefit. But the fact of the matter is, that we do not *have* to. We are sovereign Americans, until we voluntarily decide that we are not. Nowadays most of us decide that on behalf of our children too.

Now pay attention… once we volunteer to become part of the corporation of the United States, we are giving up our rights as Americans. The Constitution no longer applies to us. So when you say that your rights are being violated, they are not. You waved them. Sure you were tricked, we all were, but the fact of the matter is that we wave our rights when we do these things.

So what do you do?

Stop complying. Stop accepting that your name in capital is YOU. Stop using your social security number. Stop getting “certificates” for everything you do.

Quit yelling and protesting and putting your fist in the air; it’s useless. You are part of the system, all your protesting is meaningless every time you agree to give out your social security number or sign your name to a marriage license.

Stop complying, and BE free. It’s not easy. Our society has become so indoctrinated that it seems impossible to live freely nowadays. It is possible though. Not easy, but certainly possible, and the more of us that begin to live like free Americans, the more we will see the balance of power shift in our favor - where it belongs - among We the People.

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  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,279
    edited September 2009
    I thought we were talking about that incredible robust passion within each and every individual. No matter the physical chains, the restrictions, or whatever, there is something beautiful and animalistic within each of us - to fight for freedom no matter where we live in the world. It's pretty amazing what people can do because they know they have a right to dignity. And they talk to friends, and so on, and so on, and so on.

    What I am talking about existed before governments.
    Post edited by Ms. Haiku on
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  • I agree, and if there were ever a time to renounce all this bullshit, it's NOW-- as it should have been done years ago. The longer it goes, the more it becomes like a web that gets all the more entangling. Ask yourself this, what's the biggest deterrent to people declaring themselves sovereign? I think it's inconvenience for some, and others are perfectly content with accepting these ideas, but I think the majority reason would be the fear of force being used to make people comply with this system. That is NOT America, or it's not supposed to be, anyway. Someone should give the IRS the memo, they are probably the biggest violator of our natural rights out of all of those wonderful government agencies.

    It is time to start asking the big questions... It shouldn't be "Why can't gays marry?" It should be, "Who the fuck is the government to tell me who I can and can't marry, and why should they 'sanction' marraige?"

    You'll find that a lot of people want to marry (aside from being in love) for legal reasons, and tax benefits-- tax benefits on taxes that should not or arguably DO NOT legally exist, like the income tax. And even if it does 'legally' exist, should a law that violates our natural law be permitted to exist? Of course not. Are we actually morally obligated to defy these written laws that deprive us of our life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness? I'd say so. Asking one big question leads to the next, and to the next, and to the next... Eventually, you come to the conclusion that we are falsely governed by a big pile of bullshit that wields a giant billy club, and unfortunately isn't afraid to use it.

    What you speak of here is step 1-- simply coming to this realization. Most people haven't made it out of step 1, as step 2 is acting on these beliefs. There's a giant gap there between those 2 steps. I know I'm not there... yet.

    TRUE independence is the key, and it's going to take awakened like-minded individuals to achieve it.

    Great thread, even if I'm the only reply!
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I agree. The government has far too much control over our lives. I can't fathom how that isn't painfully obvious to everyone, but there are still tons of people (possibly even the majority) still actively VOLUNTEERING to give up more and more freedoms to the government (i.e. health insurance debate among others).

    Any time I hear someone talking about America being the land of the free, I know they are incredibly naive.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • justamjustam Posts: 21,412
    edited September 2009
    Jeanwah, I noticed how it wouldn't have been possible to make a lot of the practical changes when we moved without specific documents.

    For example, even my children are now required to sign up for school with their social security numbers. Also, we discovered there were a lot of things we needed to show our passports, social security numbers, and even our marriage certificate for!!

    (Schools, jobs, insurance, driver's licenses, doctor's records, license plates...)

    To arrive without all these documents would mean we couldn't get the insurance or any of the other things we needed to get in the new state.

    My son in Middle School was kept from registering until we had his medical form REDONE so that it was completed on a Florida medical form instead of a NY form (even though his check-up was done the week before we moved!!)
    Post edited by justam on
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  • All well enough.

    But I would define freedom as a state of mind, not a state of society.

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    I agree, and if there were ever a time to renounce all this bullshit, it's NOW-- as it should have been done years ago. The longer it goes, the more it becomes like a web that gets all the more entangling. Ask yourself this, what's the biggest deterrent to people declaring themselves sovereign? I think it's inconvenience for some, and others are perfectly content with accepting these ideas, but I think the majority reason would be the fear of force being used to make people comply with this system. That is NOT America, or it's not supposed to be, anyway. Someone should give the IRS the memo, they are probably the biggest violator of our natural rights out of all of those wonderful government agencies.

    It is time to start asking the big questions... Asking one big question leads to the next, and to the next, and to the next... Eventually, you come to the conclusion that we are falsely governed by a big pile of bullshit that wields a giant billy club, and unfortunately isn't afraid to use it.

    What you speak of here is step 1-- simply coming to this realization. Most people haven't made it out of step 1, as step 2 is acting on these beliefs. There's a giant gap there between those 2 steps. I know I'm not there... yet.

    TRUE independence is the key, and it's going to take awakened like-minded individuals to achieve it.

    Great thread, even if I'm the only reply!

    I think the bolded is key...and that there's so many people who haven't even reached (and most likely no where even close to) step 1 yet. Does it take a conscious mind to even get to step 1? If so, how do we teach the masses how to become more conscious? Or even - to care? How do we get people to care that their freedoms they think they have is truly non-existent? That's what I'd like to know, how to spread that kind of awareness so more people are willing to turn off their entertainment boxes enough to realize what's really going on in the world.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    justam wrote:
    Jeanwah, I noticed how it wouldn't have been possible to make a lot of the practical changes when we moved without specific documents.

    For example, even my children are now required to sign up for school with their social security numbers. Also, we discovered there were a lot of things we needed to show our passports, social security numbers, and even our marriage certificate for!!

    (Schools, jobs, insurance, driver's licenses, doctor's records, license plates...)

    To arrive without all these documents would mean we couldn't get the insurance or any of the other things we needed to get in the new state.

    My son in Middle School was kept from registering until we had his medical form REDONE so that it was completed on a Florida medical form instead of a NY form (even though his check-up was done the week before we moved!!)

    Remind me never to move to another state, justam! I don't know if I could deal with all that. I have a credit/debit card because it's convenient, but I'm still a cash carrying person. Meaning I'd rather be "anonymous" where I spend my money, because every time you use a credit / debit card, you're tracked. Every move.
  • Jeanwah wrote:
    I agree, and if there were ever a time to renounce all this bullshit, it's NOW-- as it should have been done years ago. The longer it goes, the more it becomes like a web that gets all the more entangling. Ask yourself this, what's the biggest deterrent to people declaring themselves sovereign? I think it's inconvenience for some, and others are perfectly content with accepting these ideas, but I think the majority reason would be the fear of force being used to make people comply with this system. That is NOT America, or it's not supposed to be, anyway. Someone should give the IRS the memo, they are probably the biggest violator of our natural rights out of all of those wonderful government agencies.

    It is time to start asking the big questions... Asking one big question leads to the next, and to the next, and to the next... Eventually, you come to the conclusion that we are falsely governed by a big pile of bullshit that wields a giant billy club, and unfortunately isn't afraid to use it.

    What you speak of here is step 1-- simply coming to this realization. Most people haven't made it out of step 1, as step 2 is acting on these beliefs. There's a giant gap there between those 2 steps. I know I'm not there... yet.

    TRUE independence is the key, and it's going to take awakened like-minded individuals to achieve it.

    Great thread, even if I'm the only reply!

    I think the bolded is key...and that there's so many people who haven't even reached (and most likely no where even close to) step 1 yet. Does it take a conscious mind to even get to step 1? If so, how do we teach the masses how to become more conscious? Or even - to care? How do we get people to care that their freedoms they think they have is truly non-existent? That's what I'd like to know, how to spread that kind of awareness so more people are willing to turn off their entertainment boxes enough to realize what's really going on in the world.

    Well, since people are fixated on the entertainment boxes, the best way to reach them is to use those same entertainment boxes to inform and inspire people rather than to dull and dumb them down. Support art that makes people think, not the bullshit mediocrity that gets pushed every day. Spread it, make it popular-- way more popular than THE HILLS or some other fake bullshit. All people need to do is demand it, and it will be televised, written, played in song, whatever. Everything is a "market" whether people want to admit it or not-- if something is demanded, you can bet that someone else is trying to make it available. Freedom is simply not demanded as much as it needs to be yet, but the demand growing. It's growing because people ARE realizing that it's more than being incrementally taken away as time goes on, and this is NOT a good thing. Part of the problem why indoctrination into slavery cannot fully succeed is because it is eventually going to backfire. It's going to speak out against itself loud enough that even people who are straight zombified are going to snap out of it.

    Hey, maybe it's why PJ is doing their pop thing on this next record? Maybe they are trying to make a statement that they want everyone to hear, even if it means leaning a little pop to do it?
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