First "Happy with Seat Location" Thread?

oneforeachday

I tried to find the thread where I could say "yeah, me too" after someone posted the "hey, i had great seats" etc. etc. Didn't look too hard, but found about 5 threads with 5-15 pages of "yeah, my seats sucked".

First, while I didn't go to chicago, it makes me wonder if there's any common sense left in the world if a 417,xxx person is expecting much at all, especially at a chicago show. I don't know how bad the seats really were, or if like the one person was convinced he could get better seats thru ticketbastard, but with a 417,xxx number I think you might be better served to be thankful for the following:

1) the holiday single
2) the opportunity to get tix (which you did, many others didn't), you do know that the presale is BEFORE the public sale right. YOU (you spoiled brat) had a shot at the tix before others, and you had the SAME shot at those tix as someone with a 10,xxx number.
3) the pre-poster opportunity
4) a number of other smaller things the 10c does for us (like the preorder for the albums, i got ITW with shirt thru them... a lady just asked me 2 weeks ago where I got that "me and my daughter are big EV fans".)

Ok, I know that rant won't work on the self righteous but i suppose it made me feel better.

Now, I would like to say to the 10c, thank you. I don't know by what entity (choose your god, flower, rock, planet, statue or whatever) I deserved to get the seats i got at Toronto (on my birthday, maybe that was it... lol, doubt it), but I don't think I could have been happier with my seats relatively speaking. I have 214,xxx (as I've stated before, I was a member in 1992, but let it lapse 2x while in college.. DOH!!)... anyway, got the tix, and I didn't know the venue so i saw Section 202, Row C and thought "wow, sounds good, but ya never know... could be off center, could be this or that". U can check out on livenation if you like but we were seats 15/16 in Row C... ummm.. that's about 10 seats to mikes side of CENTER. and, it's 3 rows back of the 102 section (which by my count must have had about 30 rows. Now, the kicker, section 202 is raised up about 4 feet... almost level with the stage. So, we're ~33 rows back, dead center, and we do NOT have 30 rows of people in front we can't see over. ummmm way cool? As a small twist (Karma?), directly in front and in row A were 2 of the tallest people i could see for rows and rows around. it required some mobility on our parts to look around their heads but IMHO a small price to pay for the seats I had. The friend I was with had a 187,xxx number (but I got the tix) and she said it was possible we could have had a few rows closer, but if we were last row or 2 of section 10X) so lets say 5 rows up), it might not have been as good a view... give or take of course... closer is closer.

I'm a lucky duck, I've seen them a few times at GA shows where I've been from 2 to 10 people (aka rows?) back (93, 94, 2000, 2006). I've also seen them (at HSBC arena in buffalo in '96, not 10c seats) as far back as you can get (last possible seat, against the wall, back corner). Good seats can improve the experience for me, but I don't think bad ones can ruin it. It's about the music and the energy. At Toronto last week, EV did his normal shine the light off the guitar into the lawn seats trick... tell me that doesn't make you feel connected to the band?

Whatever, I'm kinda out of energy trying to show/explain to people who think the world is out to get them that it's all internal... your attitude can change everything. How you think, how you feel, how you act... how others perceive you... etc. I think there's a band you might like... they're called Pearl Jam. Sometime, you might want to check out some of their lyrics... they're pretty good. ("How I choose to feel, is how I am").

thanks PJ, thanks 10c, thanks all my 10c/PJ fan/friends. 17 yrs on, PJ is still strong in my life, and I feel like I'm just a touch better for it.

OFED

cincybearcat

oneforeachday wrote:

Ok, I know that rant won't work on the self righteous but i suppose it made me feel better.

Then it must work on the self-righteous. :roll:

Glad you had a great time and loved your seats. I still don't understand why others want to jump all over people that ended up in the high corners of a venue for a show and weren't happy about it. Let them get it off their chests.

oneforeachday

cincybearcat wrote:

oneforeachday wrote:

Ok, I know that rant won't work on the self righteous but i suppose it made me feel better.

I still don't understand why others want to jump all over people that ended up in the high corners of a venue for a show and weren't happy about it. Let them get it off their chests.

Fair enough.

I hoped it didn't sound as if I was jumping all over, as I was only trying to provide a different perspective. It does seem to me as if they feel more is owed to them. my point was that, especially with a 417,xxx number, you just have to be realistic. do they really think that the 10c said "well, we'll do our best for the first 2,000 10 clubbers, but after that, we'll give em whatever we can get. Even if they did do that, the point about the pre-sale being an opportunity at tix is pretty important. the 10c gave people a chance before others to get in, within that chance was the chance at rows 1,2 and 9,10. also within that chance was a "good probability" (but not guarantee) that the seats would be better than public sale.

there's probably a fine line between "be happy with what you have" and "don't lay down and take it while you're getting screwed"... but you have to be realistic with your expectations.

I think that the Dave Matthews Band has a seniority based system and a random based system depending on venue (I'm not sure which shows are which)... I went to both Saratoga Springs, NY shows this summer with a friend who has a VERY low fanclub number (claims he was a member within hours of the fanclub opening for biz), and we sat in the balcony both nights (he said both shows were random). He's seen them 115 times, so he didn't really care... I didn't care coz Saturday night in particular was sold out for months... but his fanclub tix got me in the door.

decides2dream

the search feature sucks here, otherwise i'd say you didn't look hard enough. there are ALWAYS threads about people being happy with their seats, especially now with the lottery. in fact, ther has already been a thread or two thus far, and we haven't had that many shows just yet.


i agree with cincy, chicago sounds like a justified issue, mostly b/c it seems quite rare and new to occur. guess it was bound to happen someday. point is, this is a message board. a message board dedicated to a rock band. what better place than right here, to express your pleasure or displeasure with things concerning seeing said rock band live?


i've been very pleased with my seats, downright giddy a few times....and other times, exactly what i expected for my #, but i always have a good time. that said, i don't begrudge anyone expressing themselves here.

Gern Blansten

oneforeachday wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

oneforeachday wrote:

Ok, I know that rant won't work on the self righteous but i suppose it made me feel better.

I still don't understand why others want to jump all over people that ended up in the high corners of a venue for a show and weren't happy about it. Let them get it off their chests.

Fair enough.

I hoped it didn't sound as if I was jumping all over, as I was only trying to provide a different perspective. It does seem to me as if they feel more is owed to them. my point was that, especially with a 417,xxx number, you just have to be realistic. do they really think that the 10c said "well, we'll do our best for the first 2,000 10 clubbers, but after that, we'll give em whatever we can get. Even if they did do that, the point about the pre-sale being an opportunity at tix is pretty important. the 10c gave people a chance before others to get in, within that chance was the chance at rows 1,2 and 9,10. also within that chance was a "good probability" (but not guarantee) that the seats would be better than public sale.

there's probably a fine line between "be happy with what you have" and "don't lay down and take it while you're getting screwed"... but you have to be realistic with your expectations.

I think that the Dave Matthews Band has a seniority based system and a random based system depending on venue (I'm not sure which shows are which)... I went to both Saratoga Springs, NY shows this summer with a friend who has a VERY low fanclub number (claims he was a member within hours of the fanclub opening for biz), and we sat in the balcony both nights (he said both shows were random). He's seen them 115 times, so he didn't really care... I didn't care coz Saturday night in particular was sold out for months... but his fanclub tix got me in the door.

Dave Matthews Band sucks rhino cock

oneforeachday

decides2dream wrote:

the search feature sucks here, otherwise i'd say you didn't look hard enough. there are ALWAYS threads about people being happy with their seats, especially now with the lottery. in fact, ther has already been a thread or two thus far, and we haven't had that many shows just yet.


i agree with cincy, chicago sounds like a justified issue, mostly b/c it seems quite rare and new to occur. guess it was bound to happen someday. point is, this is a message board. a message board dedicated to a rock band. what better place than right here, to express your pleasure or displeasure with things concerning seeing said rock band live?


i've been very pleased with my seats, downright giddy a few times....and other times, exactly what i expected for my #, but i always have a good time. that said, i don't begrudge anyone expressing themselves here.

on more good threads: ok, probably the case, as I stated, i didn't look that hard. Maybe posting from work was a bad idea because I feel like I'm not explaining myself well. I EXPECT people with 450,xxx (or any number that would not normally put them in the first 30 rows or so) who win the lottery be happy, and i personally account for that when they post "hey i got lucky with my tix". using some form of relativity, I was at MSG II last year and I had almost last row on the floor. I was, well, disappointed, but thought "214,xxx number, east coast, specifically boston,nyc,Nj accessable, this must be what you get". Maybe my expectations are lower than others. Then I come on the board for the first time in weeks to post "hey, I had kick ass seats at toronto with 214,xxx, which relative to my disappointment just a year ago at MSG is friggin awesome" and I see "my seats sucked". all i tried to do was provide an alternative viewpoint, specifically that the 10c is a package deal and we get many things from them... and by statistics alone, not everyone can and will be made happy.

on chicago: the seat displeasure does seem to have an epicenter there.

on begrudging: couldn't agree more with the following exception: my point wasn't "don't bitch", it was that bitching from a reasonable basis seems less like bitching. I do accept the possibility that the seats were unreasonable altogether, and therefore the basis is there, and by extension I'm an idiot (but i may have been an idiot prior to that analysis). I absolutely hear your point however and consider it more now than before my original post.

Gern Blansten wrote:

Dave Matthews Band sucks rhino cock

Thank you for expressing your opinion as this board is an excellent place to do that.

theboxerorthebag

I agree with you! And it says something that there are 35 pages of complaining that my seats sucked and the only comments on this thread are negative. I think we should be more thankful for what the 10c does for us.

cincybearcat

theboxerorthebag wrote:

I agree with you! And it says something that there are 35 pages of complaining that my seats sucked and the only comments on this thread are negative. I think we should be more thankful for what the 10c does for us.

The good..

1) Access to tickets (and generally the best)
2) Poster pre-order...very good addition
3) Bootlegs (can't wait to see if Chicago 1&2 will become available)
4) free Memorial day single
5) 10C only sales (like posters, etc)

Some really great things for sure. The bad usually all boils down to poor communication. It may be that they don't have enough time and they get way too many complaints, but their responses are usually generic and do not answer the question. Many things lack details as well...like the 2009 bootlegs...a link to a site with no info and no bootlegs for purchase...why? Most of the time it;s really not a big deal, but every now and then it is a fairly big deal, like announcing the tour the way they have in 2006+ and now some legit concerns about seats going completely unanswered.

SL169704

10C just needs to communicate that for some shows, 32xxxx+ are getting seats worse than average TM for the same show.

This was the case for Chicago 1, and there are a lot of people who think think there are shows coming up (Philly, and what else ????) that will be the same. Just let people know, so they can make an informed decision about whether to travel 1000 miles to the show or not.

oneforeachday

some reasonable responses in the last few posts. thanks for the thoughtful, and thought provoking comments. I understand those points, and I agree with most (like the communication could be better etc.).

maybe I should edit my first post, change the whole theme to "i had awesome seats and i didn't expect that", as that's more my message than hatin on the complainers (with or without merit to do so).