Backspacer at Target published by Sony?
Travels With
Posts: 609
Maybe I missed something but when you did a search at Target for Backspacer it comes up listing the publisher as Sony. Anyone know why....not that this has any relevance.
“I suppose our capacity for self-delusion is boundless.”
― John Steinbeck, Travels with Charley: In Search of America
Post edited by Unknown User on
0
Comments
EV Solo: 7/11/11 11/12/12 11/13/12
it's wrong...it should be monkeywrench (US)
exactly...there is no need for distribution in the u.s.. right from the manufacturer to target, indies and 10c.
distribution is international only as far as i understood.
Pearl Jam's publishing deal is with Sony Music, hence the "Publisher: Sony" reference.
then what is monkeywrench?
Monkeywrench is the name of the record label.
band-owned Record Label .....owns the master recordings, pays for the recording and promotion costs and reaps most of the profits or losses. Most bands can't do this because they need financial support from a big record label. Pearl Jam is using their own money here, so they bear the risks/get the rewards.
Distributor - wholesales the records to local record stores. It would be nearly impossible for a record label to get their product into shops nationwide, so a distributor is a must.
Publisher - collects the songwriting royalties and pays them to holders of the publ & songwriting rights. In exchange, they get a peace of the income collected. It would be impossible for an artist to track down all parts of the royalty stream, hence, they sign either a publishing deal (where they usually get an advance) or an administration deal.
my pleasure
And what about the exclusive deal with Target - didn't Pearl Jam's own management (Kelly Curtis) work that out? I mean, this band has no record deal with anyone else. The whole thing confuses me. :oops:
Monkeywrench is the name of the record label.
band-owned Record Label .....owns the master recordings, pays for the recording and promotion costs and reaps most of the profits or losses. Most bands can't do this because they need financial support from a big record label. Pearl Jam is using their own money here, so they bear the risks/get the rewards.
Distributor - wholesales the records to local record stores. It would be nearly impossible for a record label to get their product into shops nationwide, so a distributor is a must.
Publisher - collects the songwriting royalties and pays them to holders of the publ & songwriting rights. In exchange, they get a peace of the income collected. It would be impossible for an artist to track down all parts of the royalty stream, hence, they sign either a publishing deal (where they usually get an advance) or an administration deal.[/quote]
See, and in this case wouldn't Monkeywrench be the Publishers? or even each members own publishing company? (if you watch the credits at the end of Imagine in Cornice it lists each song and some kind of company (pretty clearly each band members own) and gives each song like publishing credit to that company).
And what about the exclusive deal with Target - didn't Pearl Jam's own management (Kelly Curtis) work that out? I mean, this band has no record deal with anyone else. The whole thing confuses me. :oops:[/quote]
Think of PJ as the "Authors" of the music & Lyrics, and Sony Music as the publisher (they help "exploit" the songs). The publishing rights to a song relate to the written lyrics and written music, as opposed to the actual recording of the song. In the old days, singers wouldn't write their own songs, so the actual songwriters would retain the publishing rights while the band/record label would own the actual recordings (aka "masters") and receive performance royalties.
In terms of the Target deal, the band is not signed to a record label, instead, they are licensing the album rights to Target, so there is no middleman (major record label), and thus, the band stands to profit/lose more, depending on how the album sells.
me too. i thought they got rid of sony? :?:
Though they share the same name, Sony Publishing is a different entity then Sony Records. It is possible to have a deal withone, but not the other.
oohhh i see. thanks.
8.21.00 Columbus | 6.24.03 Columbus | 7.9.03 NYC | 10.2.04 Toledo | 9.11.05 Kitchener | 5.20.06 Cleveland | 8.5.07 Chicago | 5.6.10 Columbus | 5.7.10 Noblesville | 5.9.10 Cleveland | 9.3.11 East Troy | 9.4.11 East Troy | 7.19.13 Chicago | 10.11.13 Pittsburgh | 10.1.14 Cincinnati | 4.8.16 Ft. Lauderdale | 4.9.16 Miami | 8.8.18 Seattle | 8.10.18 Seattle | 9.26.21 Dana Point | 10.1.21 Dana Point | 10.2.21 Dana Point | 9.16.22 Nashville | 9.17.22 Louisville | 9.18.22 St. Louis | 9.2.23 St. Paul | 9.15.23 Ft. Worth | 6.22.24 Dublin | 8.26.24 Noblesville | 9.27.24 Dana Point | 9.29.24 Dana Point
6.26.11 Detroit (EdVed) | 9.23.17 Louisville (EdVed) | 9.25.21 Dana Point (EdVed) | 10.01.22 Dana Point (EdVed) | 2.6.22 Newark (EdVed)
I also thought Sony (all entities) were out of this deal, and that the band was manufacturing it themselves, giving Target all of the items, and they they "distribute" it thru their stores... and I was also guessing that Target may have worked a deal to let mom-and-pop record stores pick their allotment from Target... but that was just my personal guessing.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10