but isn't it ohio's fault that bush was reelected? :P
Absolutely. I didn't vote for him, but I'm not going to throw a fit about somebody giving be a hard time over it... because there ARE a lot of inbred hillbilly rednecks here, some in my family! There's truth in the statement, even if it doesn't apply to me.
ok...i wasnt implying anything like that, but thanks for the laugh. you took some shots at ny and i took a playful shot at you.
That's what I'm all about! This world would be so much better if we didn't all take ourselves so damned seriously!
well, sir, i was raised to be honest and that honesty is the best policy. sorry i'm not a liar. it's not me.
Then consider this a learning experience... it's not the best policy most of the time
I'm just saying, if I'm an usher and I come up to some guy and am like "this is not your seat" and he responds with "yeah, i know that, so what?" I'm not going to appreciate the guy's honesty, I'm going to think "This guy wants to start something and I don't get paid enough to take shit from little punks that think the rules don't apply to them. This guy's outta here." Maybe if you'd been raised to apologize when you know you're in the wrong, you'd have gotten to stay Wouldn't take much more than an "yeah, I'm sorry, I wandered up here and figured there'd be no harm in staying, I'll go back now" and he'd probably let you go.
if you get treated like a jerk, expect it back
not saying you were starmap but being kicked out for just being in the wrong seat seems fishy
If you got kicked out for just being in the wrong seat with out even a warning that is fucking ridiculous that sucks man that you had such a bad experience ...
and even if you were from NYC....doesn't mean you have some "NY attitude".........or that b/c you are from NY, you act a certain, obviously negative, way. sorry....i just hate comments like that, especially about my beloved NY. and yes, i am a NYer and damn happy to be, guess that's just my "NY attitude" showing....;)
btw - it's shitty what went down. i've moved my seats down closer a few rows only a year or so ago...but after the show was WELL under way, empty seats....or towards the end of a show when some people amazingly leave early. i haven't done anything truly brazen with my seating arrangements since my late teens, early 20s....but i do agree, getting thrown out for it is harsh. go back to your own seat and that's that.
conor...i don't think mr. lawyer wants to start the stereotype game. point is.....it's just uncalled for imo. and you bet...don't fuck with my NY.
Why wouldn't I want to start the stereotype game? Most of the stereotypes about lawyers are based on... you guessed it... truth! They exist for a reason and I'm not going to get all weepy because some might not actually apply to me.
Especially about beloved NY eh? So other stereotypes don't merit equal scrutiny, only when it's being applied to something you have sentimental attachment to? Come on, NY'ers have a rep, as do us blood sucking lawyers, as do my inbred redneck Ohio brethren. Doesn't mean I'm ashamed to be a lawyer or from Ohio to acknowledge the faults some of my comrades have that created this image.
Damn, for such a rude, arrogant bunch, you NY'ers are pretty damn sensitive
Anyway, spot on with seat moving etiquette... at concerts or sporting events, you don't move into those seats at the beginning becos you're just a pain in everyone's ass. Now as the event wears on past the halfway point, get what you can!
all stereotypes deserve equal scrutiny. you of all people should realize that, at least when it comes from my perspective in any case. i think we that oft-discussed topic, many times between the two of us, is excellent example. stereotypes make great jokes, but not much use in serious conversation imo. and that's all i have to say about that.
The usher did NOT come up to me and say anythig other than "let me see your ticket" i showed him. then he said "come with me". i went with him and then was like "uh, where are going". he said "you're leaving". it really was that simple. i didn;t resist anything. in fact, i thought he was taking me to my seat and we walked right by the row. hahaha.
well, sir, i was raised to be honest and that honesty is the best policy. sorry i'm not a liar. it's not me.
Then consider this a learning experience... it's not the best policy most of the time
I'm just saying, if I'm an usher and I come up to some guy and am like "this is not your seat" and he responds with "yeah, i know that, so what?" I'm not going to appreciate the guy's honesty, I'm going to think "This guy wants to start something and I don't get paid enough to take shit from little punks that think the rules don't apply to them. This guy's outta here." Maybe if you'd been raised to apologize when you know you're in the wrong, you'd have gotten to stay Wouldn't take much more than an "yeah, I'm sorry, I wandered up here and figured there'd be no harm in staying, I'll go back now" and he'd probably let you go.
exactly, it doesn;t add up other than maybe this guy has a bunch of seats because he plays hockey there. that would make sense to me. again, he could have said "i own this row". i assumed by moving out of his seat i did what he asked.
Sometimes its the security of the venue. I saw PJ in diff places this time around and each time diff security. Holland was pretty tight. Berlin was non existent. I feel for you, but I'm not sure where the fault is...
i was not in my correct seat... my fault. all i am saying is i should have simply been told to go to my correct seat, not escorted out of the building. i'm not sure where this ridiculous shit perception that i was asked to move by the usher and responded "no way dude, i'm not moving!" is coming from.
i was not in my correct seat... my fault. all i am saying is i should have simply been told to go to my correct seat, not escorted out of the building. i'm not sure where this ridiculous shit perception that i was asked to move by the usher and responded "no way dude, i'm not moving!" is coming from.
If the way you tell the story is 100 percent accurate, there's no question some stupid usher has a hard-on for power and you got screwed.
It just seems odd, is all.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
I know... I have trust issues... but...
This guy was telling me about how he was mistreated and unfairly told to stop reading his Bible at an anti-abortion or Roe v. Wade thing or something. The cops came up to him as forced him to stop reading the Bible.
So... my lack of trust... which i have issues with... kicked in because it just didn't add up.
...
Turns out... he WAS told by the cops to stop reading his bible... through a bullhorn.
...
The point?
I'm not going to say anything either way because I am only hearing one side of the story... which is always the side where innocence and justification reside. I would want to hear the rest of the story... from the other side. Because I have trust issues.
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I know... I have trust issues... but...
This guy was telling me about how he was mistreated and unfairly told to stop reading his Bible at an anti-abortion or Roe v. Wade thing or something. The cops came up to him as forced him to stop reading the Bible.
So... my lack of trust... which i have issues with... kicked in because it just didn't add up.
...
Turns out... he WAS told by the cops to stop reading his bible... through a bullhorn.
...
The point?
I'm not going to say anything either way because I am only hearing one side of the story... which is always the side where innocence and justification reside. I would want to hear the rest of the story... from the other side. Because I have trust issues.
I know. I will probably turn out that the OP had already whipped his dick out, and that's why he was asked to leave.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
yep, it is odd, and it's also exactly what happened. lemme see your ticket,,,, here ya go,,.,, come with me.... where are we going... you're leaving... are you kidding me?.... no come with me.... enter into a room at the united center with some suit and tie guy and asked for my drivers license... they wrote something down.... i pleaded.... they said fuck you.... i left.
oh, and yes, somewhere in there... in the office or whatever it was, i said what the fuck i'm not doing drugs i flew here my buddy doesn;t even have a cell phone to let him know i'm leaving and we're staying out by the airport. that was the only time i swore or said anything off color to them. they already had their minds made up and didn;t even respond to 90% of what i was saying to them.
"you're throwing me out for being in the wrong seat and being willing to move to my proper seat?"
response: silence
i was not in my correct seat... my fault. all i am saying is i should have simply been told to go to my correct seat, not escorted out of the building. i'm not sure where this ridiculous shit perception that i was asked to move by the usher and responded "no way dude, i'm not moving!" is coming from.
Things always get blown out of proportion here... I knew that it was your "fault" that you weren't in your correct seat, but the penalty seems IMO kind of harsh. Was this Ten Club?, the venue policy?, you just don't know. Maybe you could write a (polite) personal mail to tenclub and explain the situation; I think they are also interested how certain venues work and how certain security guards react. What I gather from your first post is that you didn't act agressively. Throwing your complaint on this board however - even though I understand it - is like throwing fresh meat to white sharks. Some will have "here-is-yet-another-negative" post and will blow things out of context.
i was not in my correct seat... my fault. all i am saying is i should have simply been told to go to my correct seat, not escorted out of the building. i'm not sure where this ridiculous shit perception that i was asked to move by the usher and responded "no way dude, i'm not moving!" is coming from.
Things always get blown out of proportion here... I knew that it was your "fault" that you weren't in your correct seat, but the penalty seems IMO kind of harsh. Was this Ten Club?, the venue policy?, you just don't know. Maybe you could write a (polite) personal mail to tenclub and explain the situation; I think they are also interested how certain venues work and how certain security guards react. What I gather from your first post is that you didn't act agressively. Throwing your complaint on this board however - even though I understand it - is like throwing fresh meat to white sharks. Some will have "here-is-yet-another-negative" post and will blow things out of context.
My opinion and advise: write tenclub.
10C doesn't have anything to do with it when you're in your seat. If the story is true, it is some kind of rogue security guard at the venue.
Also, we don't know what Mr. Roid Rage told the usher. He might have said the OP was combative, obscene, drunk or something.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
yeah, i had 114 row 13 off ticketmaster, not 10c seats. but from what i hear the seat was 10x better than the 300's 10c peeps received :0)
i also wondered what eddie might have thought of it seeing that he's roasted security guards at times. oh well. been to 27, i'll be at 27 more... and then some
and yes, you're right, you don;t know what the guy said to security... maybe not too much seeing that he was a hockey player. all he probably had to say was, "i want this little asshole out of my row NOW, he doesn;t have a seat in this row".
i was not in my correct seat... my fault. all i am saying is i should have simply been told to go to my correct seat, not escorted out of the building. i'm not sure where this ridiculous shit perception that i was asked to move by the usher and responded "no way dude, i'm not moving!" is coming from.
Things always get blown out of proportion here... I knew that it was your "fault" that you weren't in your correct seat, but the penalty seems IMO kind of harsh. Was this Ten Club?, the venue policy?, you just don't know. Maybe you could write a (polite) personal mail to tenclub and explain the situation; I think they are also interested how certain venues work and how certain security guards react. What I gather from your first post is that you didn't act agressively. Throwing your complaint on this board however - even though I understand it - is like throwing fresh meat to white sharks. Some will have "here-is-yet-another-negative" post and will blow things out of context.
My opinion and advise: write tenclub.
10C doesn't have anything to do with it when you're in your seat. If the story is true, it is some kind of rogue security guard at the venue.
Also, we don't know what Mr. Roid Rage told the usher. He might have said the OP was combative, obscene, drunk or something.
True... Even more important to notify TC. Throwing it on this board is simply not the way. TC will be able to do little except take it into account...
for the record, i just wanted to share an unfortunate concert experience. i didn;t mean to spurn some insane arguing and "fuck new york" boxing match. some people post how great their night was, i was just sharing how stupid mine was.
in retrospect, sort of a stock set and i don;t need t hear neil young songs... so... next up: philly. should be good and i promise il sit in my correct seat... well... maybe not
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That's what I'm all about!
if you get treated like a jerk, expect it back
not saying you were starmap but being kicked out for just being in the wrong seat seems fishy
all stereotypes deserve equal scrutiny. you of all people should realize that, at least when it comes from my perspective in any case. i think we that oft-discussed topic, many times between the two of us, is excellent example.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Sometimes its the security of the venue. I saw PJ in diff places this time around and each time diff security. Holland was pretty tight. Berlin was non existent. I feel for you, but I'm not sure where the fault is...
If the way you tell the story is 100 percent accurate, there's no question some stupid usher has a hard-on for power and you got screwed.
It just seems odd, is all.
for the least they could possibly do
This guy was telling me about how he was mistreated and unfairly told to stop reading his Bible at an anti-abortion or Roe v. Wade thing or something. The cops came up to him as forced him to stop reading the Bible.
So... my lack of trust... which i have issues with... kicked in because it just didn't add up.
...
Turns out... he WAS told by the cops to stop reading his bible... through a bullhorn.
...
The point?
I'm not going to say anything either way because I am only hearing one side of the story... which is always the side where innocence and justification reside. I would want to hear the rest of the story... from the other side. Because I have trust issues.
Hail, Hail!!!
I know. I will probably turn out that the OP had already whipped his dick out, and that's why he was asked to leave.
for the least they could possibly do
oh, and yes, somewhere in there... in the office or whatever it was, i said what the fuck i'm not doing drugs i flew here my buddy doesn;t even have a cell phone to let him know i'm leaving and we're staying out by the airport. that was the only time i swore or said anything off color to them. they already had their minds made up and didn;t even respond to 90% of what i was saying to them.
"you're throwing me out for being in the wrong seat and being willing to move to my proper seat?"
response: silence
the end.
Things always get blown out of proportion here... I knew that it was your "fault" that you weren't in your correct seat, but the penalty seems IMO kind of harsh. Was this Ten Club?, the venue policy?, you just don't know. Maybe you could write a (polite) personal mail to tenclub and explain the situation; I think they are also interested how certain venues work and how certain security guards react. What I gather from your first post is that you didn't act agressively. Throwing your complaint on this board however - even though I understand it - is like throwing fresh meat to white sharks. Some will have "here-is-yet-another-negative" post and will blow things out of context.
My opinion and advise: write tenclub.
10C doesn't have anything to do with it when you're in your seat. If the story is true, it is some kind of rogue security guard at the venue.
Also, we don't know what Mr. Roid Rage told the usher. He might have said the OP was combative, obscene, drunk or something.
for the least they could possibly do
i also wondered what eddie might have thought of it seeing that he's roasted security guards at times. oh well. been to 27, i'll be at 27 more... and then some
and yes, you're right, you don;t know what the guy said to security... maybe not too much seeing that he was a hockey player. all he probably had to say was, "i want this little asshole out of my row NOW, he doesn;t have a seat in this row".
True... Even more important to notify TC. Throwing it on this board is simply not the way. TC will be able to do little except take it into account...
in retrospect, sort of a stock set and i don;t need t hear neil young songs... so... next up: philly. should be good and i promise il sit in my correct seat... well... maybe not
The authorities can throw illiterate people out of the arena?
It said "Life is nothing but a dream."
I've spent so many years in question
To find I'd known this all along.