geez kat, what's wrong with my thread now

VINNY GOOMBA

ledvedderman wrote:

Moral of the story, you paid for a ticket that has all sorts of numbers on it. Find the right spot for those numbers and sit there. If this were a Pittsburgh Pirates game (or late innings of a Cub game) where no one is clearly not going to be there...whatever. However, this is a sold out concert...find your seat and stay there.

This is your best bet always. Get there early, and stake your claim to what's actually yours and no one can question you. I was a little late getting into MSG in '08, and sat in the wrong seats completely on accident. A few minutes later the actual seatholders showed up, and I thought, eh, no big deal-- I'll just find my right seats, although it's much tougher in the dark... Unfortunately, I was in the middle of a row, and people were less than understanding when I moved passed them. I finally find my seats (which were close), and there's two people in them, and had to argue with them over the blaring loud greatness of Pearl Jam that those were not their seats-- they were cool they just couldn't hear me. In the end, we kind of all squeezed in together, as I wasn't going to rat them out. There are no empty seats at any of the PJ concerts I've been to. If there's an empty seat, you can believe it belongs to someone, but they're probably just not present of yet.

starmap3333

soulsinging wrote:

starmap3333 wrote:

nah,. i didn;t say or do anything. i was asked for my ticket and i gave it to the usher. we walked to a room. they said i was leaving. i said i didn;t receive a warning. they didn;t say anything. that's when i said i'm not on drugs and flew here, etc. so, hate to tell ya, i didn;t do anything other than stand there. no one was in this block of 5 or more seats. i moved when asked from the other guys seat. that's it. but you're right, maybe this hockey player bought the row or was comped or something... makes sense. maybe he could have told me that instead of just being a jerk about it.

here's some more food for thought: not every time something unfortunate happens to someone in this world do they always deserve it.

and to anyone who actually understands what i am saying, thanks for the kindness. to the rest of you... well... enjoy the show tonite. xoxoxoxox.

lol

well, sir, i was raised to be honest and that honesty is the best policy. sorry i'm not a liar. it's not me.


Here's more food for thought: drop the NYC attitude and lie. You acted unrepentant and like they were the burden on you, when really you were a pain in their ass because they deal with people that think the rules dont apply to them all night. I doubt they enjoy doing that, but when you start acting like they're jerks for doing their job, then you're going to get tossed. Next time, lie. Say you got turned around and you're sorry, and ask for help getting to your seats. If you know life is unfair, why would you have expected them to just be cool with you sitting in someone else's seat?

soulsinging

decides2dream wrote:

now two NYer comments. :evil: :evil: :evil:
perhpas it's got jack shit to do with where he comes from, and everything to do with who he is an individual? food for thought.

A distinct possibility. But stereotypes come from somewhere, and since I've listened to plenty of NY-ers look like they're afraid I'm going to start throwing cow shit in their food when I say I'm from Ohio before ridiculing the flyover state, then they can take a few knocks for their world-renowned arrogance as well. You come from a place with a reputation, you can't get your panties in a twist when people poke fun at it.

just be glad you're not from Boston, then you'd really see something

VINNY GOOMBA

All this food for thought, and none for the poor. What the hell is wrong with this country?

decides2dream

starmap3333 wrote:

I'm not from new york city. it's funny that everytime someone is from ny, people from the other 49 states assume they are from the city. i live in central ny, we don;t even lock our doors here.

repentant? lol. i'll go get my rosary. when you're not in your seat you should asked to move by the usher to your proper seat location, period.

and even if you were from NYC....doesn't mean you have some "NY attitude".........or that b/c you are from NY, you act a certain, obviously negative, way. sorry....i just hate comments like that, especially about my beloved NY. and yes, i am a NYer and damn happy to be, guess that's just my "NY attitude" showing....;)





btw - it's shitty what went down. i've moved my seats down closer a few rows only a year or so ago...but after the show was WELL under way, empty seats....or towards the end of a show when some people amazingly leave early. i haven't done anything truly brazen with my seating arrangements since my late teens, early 20s....but i do agree, getting thrown out for it is harsh. go back to your own seat and that's that.



conor...i don't think mr. lawyer wants to start the stereotype game. point is.....it's just uncalled for imo. and you bet...don't fuck with my NY.

A satellite forever orbiting

soulsinging wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

now two NYer comments. :evil: :evil: :evil:
perhpas it's got jack shit to do with where he comes from, and everything to do with who he is an individual? food for thought.

A distinct possibility. But stereotypes come from somewhere, and since I've listened to plenty of NY-ers look like they're afraid I'm going to start throwing cow shit in their food when I say I'm from Ohio before ridiculing the flyover state, then they can take a few knocks for their world-renowned arrogance as well. You come from a place with a reputation, you can't get your panties in a twist when people poke fun at it.

just be glad you're not from Boston, then you'd really see something

but isn't it ohio's fault that bush was reelected? :P

soulsinging

starmap3333 wrote:

well, sir, i was raised to be honest and that honesty is the best policy. sorry i'm not a liar. it's not me.

Then consider this a learning experience... it's not the best policy most of the time

I'm just saying, if I'm an usher and I come up to some guy and am like "this is not your seat" and he responds with "yeah, i know that, so what?" I'm not going to appreciate the guy's honesty, I'm going to think "This guy wants to start something and I don't get paid enough to take shit from little punks that think the rules don't apply to them. This guy's outta here." Maybe if you'd been raised to apologize when you know you're in the wrong, you'd have gotten to stay Wouldn't take much more than an "yeah, I'm sorry, I wandered up here and figured there'd be no harm in staying, I'll go back now" and he'd probably let you go.

soulsinging

A satellite forever orbiting wrote:

but isn't it ohio's fault that bush was reelected? :P

Absolutely. I didn't vote for him, but I'm not going to throw a fit about somebody giving be a hard time over it... because there ARE a lot of inbred hillbilly rednecks here, some in my family! There's truth in the statement, even if it doesn't apply to me.

A satellite forever orbiting

soulsinging wrote:

A satellite forever orbiting wrote:

but isn't it ohio's fault that bush was reelected? :P

Absolutely. I didn't vote for him, but I'm not going to throw a fit about somebody giving be a hard time over it... because there ARE a lot of inbred hillbilly rednecks here, some in my family! There's truth in the statement, even if it doesn't apply to me.

ok...i wasnt implying anything like that, but thanks for the laugh. you took some shots at ny and i took a playful shot at you.

soulsinging

decides2dream wrote:

and even if you were from NYC....doesn't mean you have some "NY attitude".........or that b/c you are from NY, you act a certain, obviously negative, way. sorry....i just hate comments like that, especially about my beloved NY. and yes, i am a NYer and damn happy to be, guess that's just my "NY attitude" showing....;)

btw - it's shitty what went down. i've moved my seats down closer a few rows only a year or so ago...but after the show was WELL under way, empty seats....or towards the end of a show when some people amazingly leave early. i haven't done anything truly brazen with my seating arrangements since my late teens, early 20s....but i do agree, getting thrown out for it is harsh. go back to your own seat and that's that.

conor...i don't think mr. lawyer wants to start the stereotype game. point is.....it's just uncalled for imo. and you bet...don't fuck with my NY.

Why wouldn't I want to start the stereotype game? Most of the stereotypes about lawyers are based on... you guessed it... truth! They exist for a reason and I'm not going to get all weepy because some might not actually apply to me.

Especially about beloved NY eh? So other stereotypes don't merit equal scrutiny, only when it's being applied to something you have sentimental attachment to? Come on, NY'ers have a rep, as do us blood sucking lawyers, as do my inbred redneck Ohio brethren. Doesn't mean I'm ashamed to be a lawyer or from Ohio to acknowledge the faults some of my comrades have that created this image.

Damn, for such a rude, arrogant bunch, you NY'ers are pretty damn sensitive

Anyway, spot on with seat moving etiquette... at concerts or sporting events, you don't move into those seats at the beginning becos you're just a pain in everyone's ass. Now as the event wears on past the halfway point, get what you can!

soulsinging

A satellite forever orbiting wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

A satellite forever orbiting wrote:

but isn't it ohio's fault that bush was reelected? :P

Absolutely. I didn't vote for him, but I'm not going to throw a fit about somebody giving be a hard time over it... because there ARE a lot of inbred hillbilly rednecks here, some in my family! There's truth in the statement, even if it doesn't apply to me.

ok...i wasnt implying anything like that, but thanks for the laugh. you took some shots at ny and i took a playful shot at you.

That's what I'm all about! This world would be so much better if we didn't all take ourselves so damned seriously!

norm

soulsinging wrote:

starmap3333 wrote:

well, sir, i was raised to be honest and that honesty is the best policy. sorry i'm not a liar. it's not me.

Then consider this a learning experience... it's not the best policy most of the time

I'm just saying, if I'm an usher and I come up to some guy and am like "this is not your seat" and he responds with "yeah, i know that, so what?" I'm not going to appreciate the guy's honesty, I'm going to think "This guy wants to start something and I don't get paid enough to take shit from little punks that think the rules don't apply to them. This guy's outta here." Maybe if you'd been raised to apologize when you know you're in the wrong, you'd have gotten to stay Wouldn't take much more than an "yeah, I'm sorry, I wandered up here and figured there'd be no harm in staying, I'll go back now" and he'd probably let you go.

if you get treated like a jerk, expect it back

not saying you were starmap but being kicked out for just being in the wrong seat seems fishy

josevolution

If you got kicked out for just being in the wrong seat with out even a warning that is fucking ridiculous that sucks man that you had such a bad experience ...

decides2dream

soulsinging wrote:

decides2dream wrote:

and even if you were from NYC....doesn't mean you have some "NY attitude".........or that b/c you are from NY, you act a certain, obviously negative, way. sorry....i just hate comments like that, especially about my beloved NY. and yes, i am a NYer and damn happy to be, guess that's just my "NY attitude" showing....;)

btw - it's shitty what went down. i've moved my seats down closer a few rows only a year or so ago...but after the show was WELL under way, empty seats....or towards the end of a show when some people amazingly leave early. i haven't done anything truly brazen with my seating arrangements since my late teens, early 20s....but i do agree, getting thrown out for it is harsh. go back to your own seat and that's that.

conor...i don't think mr. lawyer wants to start the stereotype game. point is.....it's just uncalled for imo. and you bet...don't fuck with my NY.

Why wouldn't I want to start the stereotype game? Most of the stereotypes about lawyers are based on... you guessed it... truth! They exist for a reason and I'm not going to get all weepy because some might not actually apply to me.

Especially about beloved NY eh? So other stereotypes don't merit equal scrutiny, only when it's being applied to something you have sentimental attachment to? Come on, NY'ers have a rep, as do us blood sucking lawyers, as do my inbred redneck Ohio brethren. Doesn't mean I'm ashamed to be a lawyer or from Ohio to acknowledge the faults some of my comrades have that created this image.

Damn, for such a rude, arrogant bunch, you NY'ers are pretty damn sensitive

Anyway, spot on with seat moving etiquette... at concerts or sporting events, you don't move into those seats at the beginning becos you're just a pain in everyone's ass. Now as the event wears on past the halfway point, get what you can!

all stereotypes deserve equal scrutiny. you of all people should realize that, at least when it comes from my perspective in any case. i think we that oft-discussed topic, many times between the two of us, is excellent example. stereotypes make great jokes, but not much use in serious conversation imo. and that's all i have to say about that.

starmap3333

The usher did NOT come up to me and say anythig other than "let me see your ticket" i showed him. then he said "come with me". i went with him and then was like "uh, where are going". he said "you're leaving". it really was that simple. i didn;t resist anything. in fact, i thought he was taking me to my seat and we walked right by the row. hahaha.

soulsinging wrote:

starmap3333 wrote:

well, sir, i was raised to be honest and that honesty is the best policy. sorry i'm not a liar. it's not me.

Then consider this a learning experience... it's not the best policy most of the time

I'm just saying, if I'm an usher and I come up to some guy and am like "this is not your seat" and he responds with "yeah, i know that, so what?" I'm not going to appreciate the guy's honesty, I'm going to think "This guy wants to start something and I don't get paid enough to take shit from little punks that think the rules don't apply to them. This guy's outta here." Maybe if you'd been raised to apologize when you know you're in the wrong, you'd have gotten to stay Wouldn't take much more than an "yeah, I'm sorry, I wandered up here and figured there'd be no harm in staying, I'll go back now" and he'd probably let you go.

fortyshades

starmap3333 wrote:

exactly, it doesn;t add up other than maybe this guy has a bunch of seats because he plays hockey there. that would make sense to me. again, he could have said "i own this row". i assumed by moving out of his seat i did what he asked.

Sometimes its the security of the venue. I saw PJ in diff places this time around and each time diff security. Holland was pretty tight. Berlin was non existent. I feel for you, but I'm not sure where the fault is...

starmap3333

i was not in my correct seat... my fault. all i am saying is i should have simply been told to go to my correct seat, not escorted out of the building. i'm not sure where this ridiculous shit perception that i was asked to move by the usher and responded "no way dude, i'm not moving!" is coming from.

slightofjeff

starmap3333 wrote:

i was not in my correct seat... my fault. all i am saying is i should have simply been told to go to my correct seat, not escorted out of the building. i'm not sure where this ridiculous shit perception that i was asked to move by the usher and responded "no way dude, i'm not moving!" is coming from.

If the way you tell the story is 100 percent accurate, there's no question some stupid usher has a hard-on for power and you got screwed.

It just seems odd, is all.

Cosmo

I know... I have trust issues... but...
This guy was telling me about how he was mistreated and unfairly told to stop reading his Bible at an anti-abortion or Roe v. Wade thing or something. The cops came up to him as forced him to stop reading the Bible.
So... my lack of trust... which i have issues with... kicked in because it just didn't add up.
...
Turns out... he WAS told by the cops to stop reading his bible... through a bullhorn.
...
The point?
I'm not going to say anything either way because I am only hearing one side of the story... which is always the side where innocence and justification reside. I would want to hear the rest of the story... from the other side. Because I have trust issues.

slightofjeff

Cosmo wrote:

I know... I have trust issues... but...
This guy was telling me about how he was mistreated and unfairly told to stop reading his Bible at an anti-abortion or Roe v. Wade thing or something. The cops came up to him as forced him to stop reading the Bible.
So... my lack of trust... which i have issues with... kicked in because it just didn't add up.
...
Turns out... he WAS told by the cops to stop reading his bible... through a bullhorn.
...
The point?
I'm not going to say anything either way because I am only hearing one side of the story... which is always the side where innocence and justification reside. I would want to hear the rest of the story... from the other side. Because I have trust issues.

I know. I will probably turn out that the OP had already whipped his dick out, and that's why he was asked to leave.