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Keep on JamminKeep on Jammin Posts: 377
edited August 2009 in The Porch
It looks like most shows they are only playing the 2 songs (Fixer and Got Some). Why are they afraid to play more of the new stuff before the album comes out? I would think they would like to try something new and get some more excitement going for the new album. Does anyone think we'll get more than these 2 once they hit North America this week?

I love the old stuff, but it would be nice to hear some more new stuff.
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  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    I personally dont want them to. Maybe The End or Unthought Known but only if they are Ed solo versions.
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  • CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,064
    I'm sure a lot of it has to do with recordings. There are already audience recordings out there for Shepherd's Bush and the Germany show. The band probably doesn't want half the album leaked before it comes out.
  • Keep on JamminKeep on Jammin Posts: 377
    CantKeepmedown wrote:
    I'm sure a lot of it has to do with recordings. There are already audience recordings out there for Shepherd's Bush and the Germany show. The band probably doesn't want half the album leaked before it comes out.

    They'd rather everyone listen to 10-30 second snipets from Verizon or Amazon?
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,876
    CantKeepmedown wrote:
    I'm sure a lot of it has to do with recordings. There are already audience recordings out there for Shepherd's Bush and the Germany show. The band probably doesn't want half the album leaked before it comes out.

    I think that's exactly the reason. I think one of the guy mentioned something like that in an interview.
  • Keep on JamminKeep on Jammin Posts: 377
    Indifference71 wrote:
    CantKeepmedown wrote:
    I'm sure a lot of it has to do with recordings. There are already audience recordings out there for Shepherd's Bush and the Germany show. The band probably doesn't want half the album leaked before it comes out.

    I think that's exactly the reason. I think one of the guy mentioned something like that in an interview.

    I thought this was a tour to "support the release of Backspacer".
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Playing the first two singles at every show is a good way to support a upcoming album
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  • mjbmjb Posts: 1,315
    I think this mini-tour is intended to hype the release. They are playing the single and teasing us with the probable next single (Got Some). They seem to be avoiding giving the milk away for free (or $172, depending on how you look at it)
  • CardinalCardinal Posts: 479
    People....this isnt the Backspacer Tour yet......it begins in September.....This is a warm up tour before the Backspacer Tour....

    Oh and quit whining already....geeeze
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  • IwasBit10IwasBit10 Posts: 646
    edited August 2009
    Keep on Jammin wrote:
    Indifference71 wrote:
    CantKeepmedown wrote:
    I'm sure a lot of it has to do with recordings. There are already audience recordings out there for Shepherd's Bush and the Germany show. The band probably doesn't want half the album leaked before it comes out.

    I think that's exactly the reason. I think one of the guy mentioned something like that in an interview.

    I thought this was a tour to "support the release of Backspacer".

    Backspacer will be in stores Sept. 20th. The N.A. tour to "support the release of Backspacer" begins Sept. 21st in Seattle.

    These Euro and N.A. shows that are before that tour are different, imo. Personally, I love that they aren't overloading these sets with the new songs.
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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    Eggs are expensive.
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,518
    after the record is released people will be complaining they are playing TOO much new stuff
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  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    CantKeepmedown wrote:
    The band probably doesn't want half the album leaked before it comes out.
    That's old-school-record-company thinking. I say play it. Nothing generates buzz like hearing new stuff live. They should play Backspacer front-to-back at one of the Youze-a-palooza shows. That would be SO cool.
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  • patrickredeyespatrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    2006 tour I was so sick of hearing most of the new album at every show. So far I'm loving the setlists on this current tour.
  • Keep on JamminKeep on Jammin Posts: 377
    Cardinal wrote:
    People....this isnt the Backspacer Tour yet......it begins in September.....This is a warm up tour before the Backspacer Tour....

    Oh and quit whining already....geeeze

    I'm not whining. Just eager to hear some and wondering why they wouldn't play more.
  • Yellow BedwetterYellow Bedwetter NYC Posts: 2,832
    CantKeepmedown wrote:
    I'm sure a lot of it has to do with recordings. There are already audience recordings out there for Shepherd's Bush and the Germany show. The band probably doesn't want half the album leaked before it comes out.

    and rightfully so...im not going to start listening to the album until it arrives at my doorstep
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  • WhyNotSwedenWhyNotSweden Sweden Posts: 4,307
    The dont play other songs than "Got Some" and "The Fixer" on the shows thats are recorded for BOOTS, because the BOOTS are released before the TURTLE album.
    Its easy as that.
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  • Keep on JamminKeep on Jammin Posts: 377
    WhynotSweden wrote:
    The dont play other songs than "Got Some" and "The Fixer" on the shows thats are recorded for BOOTS, because the BOOTS are released before the TURTLE album.
    Its easy as that.

    Wow, that's a really good point that I had not thought of!!! I forgot about the boots.
  • the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    Yellow Bedwetter wrote:
    CantKeepmedown wrote:
    I'm sure a lot of it has to do with recordings. There are already audience recordings out there for Shepherd's Bush and the Germany show. The band probably doesn't want half the album leaked before it comes out.

    and rightfully so...im not going to start listening to the album until it arrives at my doorstep


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  • mikepmikep Posts: 290
    reminds me a bit of the 2005 canada tour. we were hoping for previews from the upcoming avacado but didn't really get many if any. though they kept the sets fresh with stuff off lost dogs and new covers. and looks similar this time...brother, the newish who covers, and that sorta thing. but good sets overall, good length, good vareity from show to show. all good. this will serve to get us amped up and hopefully most will get to see them in sept/oct as well. though i'd love to hear supersonic. the snippet on amazon makes me crazy to hear the whole thing. lol.

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  • Vedder_Girl77Vedder_Girl77 Posts: 4,335
    You will hear more of Backspacer when the Backspacer tour begins in Seattle in September. Patience people...patience!!! :lol:
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  • VeddernarianVeddernarian Posts: 1,924
    Remember the tour before Avocado? Months before the album and all of the tour-preview articles were saying we'd be hearing new stuff premiered. They really played nothing from Avocado except Gone as it was an ad-hoc song written in Philly(I think) the night before. That was unplanned and slipped into the new album in the 11th hour. Mid way through the tour, Ed said in an interview that he prefers that people hear new material on the album first, not live first. So this, what they're doing now, doesn't surprise me a bit. Those 2 songs are out of the bag already and that's why they're playing them. I would bet that at the time of Conan, there was still a debate as to which would be the 1st single. I bet at that time Got Some had the edge over Fixer and that is why I think they played it. I would also speculate that if the Fixer was decided upon at that point, they would have played it on Conan, and it would have been the only song played live up until the new album's release.
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  • Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    so if we are going to philly,
    we should be okay
    ( and maybe receive some more live performances of tracks off of Backspacer )
    i hope so
    i really wanna hear just breathe .

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    ledvedderman wrote:
    Playing the first two singles at every show is a good way to support a upcoming album

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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    I think it's a load of crap that they're not playin more new tunes, or if they don't plan on adding more as they go along. This IS the Backspacer tour. Bands play shows before albums come out and play the tunes from them. If they are holdin out b/c they think it's gonna eat into their sales, they're fuckin delusional.
  • Better DanBetter Dan Posts: 5,684
    I could be wrong, but I didnt see 10c refer to any of the shows taking place before Seattle as being part of the "Backspacer Tour." The Europe/Canada/Chicago were just billed as PJ shows and didn't mention supporting any album right?
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    DS114969 wrote:
    I could be wrong, but I didnt see 10c refer to any of the shows taking place before Seattle as being part of the "Backspacer Tour." The Europe/Canada/Chicago were just billed as PJ shows and didn't mention supporting any album right?

    I dunno if that's wrong, but I think it was fair to assume that the shows would coincide with the album, and they do.

    Was there a mention that they were warmup shows?
  • fightingthesuburbsfightingthesuburbs Posts: 142
    I think you guys are arguing the wrong things. If it's the backspacer tour or not. Who cares.

    The point is this: Pearl Jam sells records regardless of leaks. In fact, they continue to do well because of loyal ass fans that actually buy -- meaning pay cash -- for their albums, vinyl, socks...it doesn't matter.

    That to me means they should play a few more if they want to. It's obvious they are not on purpose though for all the reasons you guys mention. I just think that's flawed thinking. If they came out with 5 collectors editions of the new record, fans would buy all 5. after they've downloaded all the audience recordings. They'd then buy the official bootlegs despite having the audience recordings already. and so on and so on.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    fightingthesuburbs wrote:
    I think you guys are arguing the wrong things. If it's the backspacer tour or not. Who cares.

    The point is this: Pearl Jam sells records regardless of leaks. In fact, they continue to do well because of loyal ass fans that actually buy -- meaning pay cash -- for their albums, vinyl, socks...it doesn't matter.

    That to me means they should play a few more if they want to. It's obvious they are not on purpose though for all the reasons you guys mention. I just think that's flawed thinking. If they came out with 5 collectors editions of the new record, fans would buy all 5. after they've downloaded all the audience recordings. They'd then buy the official bootlegs despite having the audience recordings already. and so on and so on.

    Right on........Kinda makes them seem like outta touch fogeys. It's embarrassing in the way all the hype for S/T was.
  • CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,064
    fightingthesuburbs wrote:
    I think you guys are arguing the wrong things. If it's the backspacer tour or not. Who cares.

    The point is this: Pearl Jam sells records regardless of leaks. In fact, they continue to do well because of loyal ass fans that actually buy -- meaning pay cash -- for their albums, vinyl, socks...it doesn't matter.

    That to me means they should play a few more if they want to. It's obvious they are not on purpose though for all the reasons you guys mention. I just think that's flawed thinking. If they came out with 5 collectors editions of the new record, fans would buy all 5. after they've downloaded all the audience recordings. They'd then buy the official bootlegs despite having the audience recordings already. and so on and so on.

    For die-hard PJ fans like us, people who post on this board, I would agree. I've pre-ordered the album from the 10c and will buy it from Target as well.

    However, I know a lot of casual fans that would have no issued dowloading shows, whether they be audience recordings or offical boots and put the album together that way. Then, after the album releases, they'd find it online and download it for free. It's just the way people are.

    I have no doubt that starting in Seattle, you'll have 6-7 Backspacer songs in the set, if not more.
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    CantKeepmedown wrote:
    However, I know a lot of casual fans that would have no issued dowloading shows, whether they be audience recordings or offical boots and put the album together that way. Then, after the album releases, they'd find it online and download it for free. It's just the way people are.

    That's a nice point, but it's moot.
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