Boom doesn't play on Backspacer

norm

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Ed: That corner? Oh that's Boom

if ed has to ask what corner, i wonder what is in the other corners? :?:

:P :ugeek:

indifferentman

Yes, Boom is purely a novelty and as much as I am PRO-BOOM, I will also admit that the band really doesn't need him. However, he has his moments where he does add to the sound, and it's cool as fuck to watch him and McCready soloing during Crazy Mary. I say keep him around.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

I just wanted to get it off my chest one time....

And here's another Boom theory I have: I think Stone HATES him. Really, put yourself in the room....beginning of the Riot Act sessions:

Stone: Hey Ed, how was your vacation?

Ed: Oh great man....great.

Stone: Cool, yeah so I got some riffs, been going over a few things with Mike.......um.......yeah.....who's that crazy looking guy in the corner?

Ed: That corner? Oh that's Boom

Stone: Boom?

Ed: Yeah Boom. I met him while I was surfing. He grows his own weed. He's cool man...he's going to play keys on the album.

Stone: What?

Ed: Yeah. Look I gotta go take a leak but I'll see ya in there. Go introduce yourself to Boom.....he's cool man.

Stone: What? (Eddie exits, Stone walks up to Boom)

Stone: Hey man, I'm Stone....I play guitar....and founded the band and.....

Boom: ALOHA MAN!!! Where's the wine? Eddie said you guys always have lots of wine!

Stone: Oh brother....

hehehehehehehehehe..............................

Eraserhead

Burns: Are they booing me?
Smithers: Err, no... they're saying Boooooo-urns! Booooo-urns!

Hehe.

twojawas

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Well I don't hate just to hate ya digg? I dunno, I don't think he plays well enough to justify him playing with Pearl Jam. I mean, I guess he has character so that's cool. And you can yell BOOOOOOOOOM for his introduction (and it's not like I haven't done it). But he's just flat-out not good enough musician to be playing with Pearl Jam...there I said it. He couldn't outplay an elementary school music teacher.

And what's with the unnecessary organ fills? And it's not like it's Boom's decision to make do this....I guess it falls on Eddie...but organ fills during the Alive solo? Gimme a break. That sounds so crappy when they do that. A little piano on Black is one thing, but Alive is a guitar song. Jimmy Page wouldn't put organ fills during the Black Dog solo would he? And Rockin' in the Free World and Crazy Mar don't need B3 solos. For the songs conceived with Boom (Love Boat Captain, Marker in the Sand, etc), fine, have him out there. Otherwise, get that aging hippie weirdo off the stage and let Mike solo!!

so tell us how you really feel!

I hear ya though....and you make some very good points.

I just wanted to get it off my chest one time....

And here's another Boom theory I have: I think Stone HATES him. Really, put yourself in the room....beginning of the Riot Act sessions:

Stone: Hey Ed, how was your vacation?

Ed: Oh great man....great.

Stone: Cool, yeah so I got some riffs, been going over a few things with Mike.......um.......yeah.....who's that crazy looking guy in the corner?

Ed: That corner? Oh that's Boom

Stone: Boom?

Ed: Yeah Boom. I met him while I was surfing. He grows his own weed. He's cool man...he's going to play keys on the album.

Stone: What?

Ed: Yeah. Look I gotta go take a leak but I'll see ya in there. Go introduce yourself to Boom.....he's cool man.

Stone: What? (Eddie exits, Stone walks up to Boom)

Stone: Hey man, I'm Stone....I play guitar....and founded the band and.....

Boom: ALOHA MAN!!! Where's the wine? Eddie said you guys always have lots of wine!

Stone: Oh brother....

Ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

I am betting this isn't far from the truth either.

Kloddz

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Ed: Yeah. Look I gotta go take a leak but I'll see ya in there. Go introduce yourself to Boom.....he's cool man.

Ed would never tell anyone to introduce themselves to Boom. Everybody knows that you can only speak to Boom when spoken to!

ComeToTX

i don't think he adds much to the band but if they like it then more power.

if he doesn't need to be on the records i don't see why he has to be at shows.

cannotstaylong

I agree with previous posters that I don't like what Boom brings to the table on the older songs. Most of the old songs that sound good with Boom are songs that already had keyboard/piano, and there are only a couple.

That said, there are a few songs that sound really cool with Boom... mostly the newer stuff. LBC and Inside Job are two that jump out right away. And as someone else mentioned, Crazy Mary is always excellent when Boom and Mike go back and forth. The version from Camden 2 '06 was excellent.

Ultimately, I wish there was a friendly way for the band to say "Listen, Boom. We like a lot of the stuff you do. But take a break every now and then, man. On the older stuff before you came in, let us do the playing unless the keys were already there." That way we keep him out of Alive and others, which just sounds horrid with him in there.

12345AGNST1

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Well I don't hate just to hate ya digg? I dunno, I don't think he plays well enough to justify him playing with Pearl Jam. I mean, I guess he has character so that's cool. And you can yell BOOOOOOOOOM for his introduction (and it's not like I haven't done it). But he's just flat-out not good enough musician to be playing with Pearl Jam...there I said it. He couldn't outplay an elementary school music teacher.

And what's with the unnecessary organ fills? And it's not like it's Boom's decision to make do this....I guess it falls on Eddie...but organ fills during the Alive solo? Gimme a break. That sounds so crappy when they do that. A little piano on Black is one thing, but Alive is a guitar song. Jimmy Page wouldn't put organ fills during the Black Dog solo would he? And Rockin' in the Free World and Crazy Mar don't need B3 solos. For the songs conceived with Boom (Love Boat Captain, Marker in the Sand, etc), fine, have him out there. Otherwise, get that aging hippie weirdo off the stage and let Mike solo!!

so tell us how you really feel!

I hear ya though....and you make some very good points.

I just wanted to get it off my chest one time....

And here's another Boom theory I have: I think Stone HATES him. Really, put yourself in the room....beginning of the Riot Act sessions:

Stone: Hey Ed, how was your vacation?

Ed: Oh great man....great.

Stone: Cool, yeah so I got some riffs, been going over a few things with Mike.......um.......yeah.....who's that crazy looking guy in the corner?

Ed: That corner? Oh that's Boom

Stone: Boom?

Ed: Yeah Boom. I met him while I was surfing. He grows his own weed. He's cool man...he's going to play keys on the album.

Stone: What?

Ed: Yeah. Look I gotta go take a leak but I'll see ya in there. Go introduce yourself to Boom.....he's cool man.

Stone: What? (Eddie exits, Stone walks up to Boom)

Stone: Hey man, I'm Stone....I play guitar....and founded the band and.....

Boom: ALOHA MAN!!! Where's the wine? Eddie said you guys always have lots of wine!

Stone: Oh brother....

hahha

DeLukin

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

Holy crap, I may have just peed my pants.

Gonzo1977

I'll never understand all of the hate for poor Boom.

He adds color and expands the bands sound.

His contributions alone to the last record justified his place in Pearl Jam - "Marker In The Sand" and "Inside Job" come to mind-

Besides, "Love Boat Captain" would never have been written without him, and his organ parts to "Crazy Mary" have turned an already awesome song into an absolute hightlight live.

The reason Boom's not on "Backspacer" is not because the band is phasing him out, it's more to do with the fact that Brendon is an excellent player himself, and simply chose to play the parts himself and get whatever sound he wanted out of the band as oppossed to handing the duties over to someone else . He did this on the last Sprinsteen record and he's been known to handle the piano, organ, and keys on almost everything else he's recorded or produced.

I have no doubt that as the new songs unfold live, Boom will handle whatever keyboard, piano, and organ parts are required, and he shine like he always does.

I think the band is finding new and interesting ways of using Boom's talents and I think he'll become more and more prominent on future albums and tours.

Snoopy Died For Our Sins

Haven't read everyone's thoughts on this, but I personally dislike keys of just about any kind in guitar driven rock music...I have no issues with Boom (how could I, I don't know him) but I respect the decisions that Pearl Jam make in just about every single way...you have to admire them for being the best live band in the world, with the best staying power...all this bashing of Boom is silly...saying he doesn't deserve to play with PJ or that he isn't good enough is soooooo not our call to make

It's not like he's Dizzy Reed

The Champ

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

who's that crazy looking guy in the corner?

Ed: That corner? Oh that's Boom

Awesome thread!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vciEDI3dD8I

Ledbetterman10

Gonzo1977 wrote:

The reason Boom's not on "Backspacer" is not because the band is phasing him out, it's more to do with the fact that Brendon is an excellent player himself, and simply chose to play the parts himself and get whatever sound he wanted out of the band as oppossed to handing the duties over to someone else . He did this on the last Sprinsteen record and he's been known to handle the piano, organ, and keys on almost everything else he's recorded or produced.

I think that's an example of phasing him out. Not to get rid of him completely of course....but it definitely shows that he's not the sixth member of the band like he was portrayed as in 2003.

Evolution6579

U R A Crazy Breed wrote:

Soldier 1: What are you doing? Why'd you let 'em go?

Soldier 2: What? It's just a bunch of vets, camping.

Soldier 1: Dude, that was a shaved Bigfoot and Steve Sommers in a wig...made out of shaved Bigfoot.

rockfordphile

Keyboard?? Keyboard??!! There is no Keyboard in Grievance!

cannotstaylong wrote:

I agree with previous posters that I don't like what Boom brings to the table on the older songs. Most of the old songs that sound good with Boom are songs that already had keyboard/piano, and there are only a couple.

That said, there are a few songs that sound really cool with Boom... mostly the newer stuff. LBC and Inside Job are two that jump out right away. And as someone else mentioned, Crazy Mary is always excellent when Boom and Mike go back and forth. The version from Camden 2 '06 was excellent.

Ultimately, I wish there was a friendly way for the band to say "Listen, Boom. We like a lot of the stuff you do. But take a break every now and then, man. On the older stuff before you came in, let us do the playing unless the keys were already there." That way we keep him out of Alive and others, which just sounds horrid with him in there.

aNiMaL

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Gonzo1977 wrote:

The reason Boom's not on "Backspacer" is not because the band is phasing him out, it's more to do with the fact that Brendon is an excellent player himself, and simply chose to play the parts himself and get whatever sound he wanted out of the band as oppossed to handing the duties over to someone else . He did this on the last Sprinsteen record and he's been known to handle the piano, organ, and keys on almost everything else he's recorded or produced.

I think that's an example of phasing him out. Not to get rid of him completely of course....but it definitely shows that he's not the sixth member of the band like he was portrayed as in 2003.

I don't think he has EVER been portrayed as anything other than Pearl Jam's keyboardist. I have never believed that he ever has been anything more. He has never been a full fledged band member. That is why he has never shown up in an official band photo.

Ledbetterman10

aNiMaL wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Gonzo1977 wrote:

The reason Boom's not on "Backspacer" is not because the band is phasing him out, it's more to do with the fact that Brendon is an excellent player himself, and simply chose to play the parts himself and get whatever sound he wanted out of the band as oppossed to handing the duties over to someone else . He did this on the last Sprinsteen record and he's been known to handle the piano, organ, and keys on almost everything else he's recorded or produced.

I think that's an example of phasing him out. Not to get rid of him completely of course....but it definitely shows that he's not the sixth member of the band like he was portrayed as in 2003.

I don't think he has EVER been portrayed as anything other than Pearl Jam's keyboardist. I have never believed that he ever has been anything more. He has never been a full fledged band member. That is why he has never shown up in an official band photo.

I know, I know, but "Pearl Jam's keyboardist" makes him sound like he's in the band. Like how Richard Wright was "Pink Floyd's keyboardist." And on the Live at the Garden DVD, it lists him alphabetically with the other band members. I'm just nit-picking though. it's not like it's a big deal. He's always listed as an addiontal musician on the albums and as you said, isn't in press photos.

But I think some people around here consider him a real member of the band....which they're entitled to if they want. But it's reminds me of how John Lennon and George Harrison wanted Billy Preston to become a full-fledged member of The Beatles during the Let It Be sessions. Paul took time out from singing "Get Back" to sing "Get Real"

halszka123

I like Boom, though sometimes i'd rather he don't play.

Boom fits to The Band. If Boys like him and want Him to be on tour - I respect Their choice.

gonzo

when it's all said and done, we all know that Boom goes wherever and does whatever he wants to...you can't control Boom...