I'd like to hear your solutions OP, rather than your complaints. Do you have any suggestions for improvement or just the rants?
Comments like this is pretty annoying.
She obviously was looking to release some built up stress and anxiety due to her life struggles. Maybe not the best place. (Reality is people online are pretty cold and could careless.)
She feels the current system isn't working and is failing her. Your comment is like bringing in your car because it's making a weird noise and the repair man says "I'll fix it and have it running like new!". After he's finished you drive home and it's still making the weird noise so you bring it back complaining to the repair man and his response is "I'd like to hear your solution rather than yoru complaints. Do you have any suggestions on how to fix it or just going to complain?" .....
She didn't run for president to fix the 'problem' that's what Obama was elected for. She just sees it as being broken and Obama had promised to nationalize healthcare.
I feel for her on a level of feeling trapped and helpless. I may have not gone through the same conditions but it really sucks waking up to another gloomy day of shit that you can't exactly clean off.
No, the MT is not the best place to simply rant and not expect a debate in return. There is definitely a lot to complain about to the Obama administration, I agree with the OP there. But looking for sympathy, or rather, empathy in regards to complaining with no solutions in mind, is just being a Debbie Downer, strictly in my opinion. I hear people bitching every day outside of the pit about the gov't, the world, what we've been dealt with, etc. etc. but no one's searching for answers or solutions. That's why I ask the question of what ideas people have. Not to be a smart ass, but to make people think about what they'd really like to see happen, or at least offer an alternative. We solve nothing by sitting back and just complaining and taking no action. Perhaps we do lack empathy, but moreso, I see Americans lack motivation.
My god, I'm so fucking tired...what do you want from me?
To solve it?
I'm talking about health care reform.
Am I not allowed to be who I am and do you have to call me names to feel good about yourself?
Read my post again. This time notice I have a medical problem. You can look it up. It's called bi polar and I suspect my President would care about what I had to say.
This thread appears to be a microcasm of Health Care and the healthcare debate in this country. In a nutshell, the ones that do not want universal health care seem to be healthy Americans whose employers are providing them health care coverage.
I DO have empathy for this person because I personally know people who have gone through health care insurance nightmares. It's NOT the doctors and hospitals... it's the Insurance Companies that will dely payment causing stress on patients fighting life threatening diseases. Someone that is having to face the deadly spectre of something like cancer should NOT have to also fight their own insurance company... they should not face the financial ruin of their family as well as chemotherapy. But, it happens. People scared of Obama 'Death Panels' should come to realize that Death Panels ar already in businedss as insurance adjusters decide whether you are worth the pay out or not.
Finally, i AM one of those healthy Americans with great health care provided to me by the multi-billion comapny I work for. But, i am one pink slip away from losing it. And i know that most everyone else here is in the same boat as I am. I just hope that if that day comes... I still have my health... and there is a public option safety net to catch me if I don't.
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Hail, Hail!!!
My god, I'm so fucking tired...what do you want from me?
To solve it?
I'm talking about health care reform.
Am I not allowed to be who I am and do you have to call me names to feel good about yourself?
Read my post again. This time notice I have a medical problem. You can look it up. It's called bi polar and I suspect my President would care about what I had to say.
signed
DEBBIE DOWNER
I don't want you to solve it, I'm trying to suggest looking at the problem from a solving angle. I wasn't calling you specifically DD, so I'm sorry you took it personally. Basically, you came on to MT to rant, and what we do here is debate. I'm all for Universal Healthcare, I have a child with a disability, so I'm not sitting pretty, and happy with insurance companies (I think it blows, personally).
I just believe that the answer to all the criticism is actually coming up with an idea to solve it. I would love universal healthcare. How about you?
I never said one word about any nationality, and I suppose if you would have actually read and thought about what I said you may not have had a knee-jerk so bad.
You sit back and let your tax dollars fund whatever you want, I'll continue to contact my politicians and let them know that my vote depends on them stopping the bleeding.
you are on here talking about mexicans all the time and how we need to close the borders etc etc so i just figured that is what you were talking about. my reaction is based on all of the immigrant hating you do around here in your posts so it was not a knee jerk.
i can see that you contacting your politicians has worked out well for you.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Immigrant hating? Get a life. I'm against illegal aliens, I'm for legal by the law immigration. Now beat it.
I'm in probably the most corrupt state in the union, but they are going to hear my voice anyway.
so for the record you are for health care for legal aliens, but the illegal ones are on their own? fair enough. its funny that many of the illegal ones are actually leaving because of the state of our economy, so maybe you don't have too much to worry about.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Start off...limiting the amount of money a physician can charge for a procedure. In Germany, Doctors don't make the money they do here in the U.S, however they are paid well and live good lives. Why do fireman make what they make when they save lives as well?
How about limiting how much hospitals can charge for a simple aspirin? There are literally hundreds of ways to cut costs.
I guess the real issue here is greed. People and institutions who have more than they need.
Start off...limiting the amount of money a physician can charge for a procedure. In Germany, Doctors don't make the money they do here in the U.S, however they are paid well and live good lives. Why do fireman make what they make when they save lives as well?
How about limiting how much hospitals can charge for a simple aspirin? There are literally hundreds of ways to cut costs.
I guess the real issue here is greed. People and institutions who have more than they need.
You're definitely on to something now. Yes, greed is a huge part of the issue, just ask the insurance company execs.
Start off...limiting the amount of money a physician can charge for a procedure. In Germany, Doctors don't make the money they do here in the U.S, however they are paid well and live good lives. Why do fireman make what they make when they save lives as well?
How about limiting how much hospitals can charge for a simple aspirin? There are literally hundreds of ways to cut costs.
I guess the real issue here is greed. People and institutions who have more than they need.
"Greed" and "Need" are highly subjective terms.
I suspect all of us with the time and means to post and debate on a message board look pretty "greedy" and have more than we "need" to the majority of the people living out there on this planet.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I guess the real issue here is greed. People and institutions who have more than they need.
that defines north american culture tho ... it's about getting the most ... unfortunately, you will have to move to either some commune or intentional community or other country to live in a place where people actually care about you aside from your family and friends ...
I guess the real issue here is greed. People and institutions who have more than they need.
that defines north american culture tho ... it's about getting the most ... unfortunately, you will have to move to either some commune or intentional community or other country to live in a place where people actually care about you aside from your family and friends ...
BhagavaGita greed is the major part of this issue. Be strong and maybe word will travel and some wealthy American will help you financially in this situation. Best wishes. Ishmael by Daniel Quinn great book.
polaris_x I do feel that your words have some truth to it.
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No, the MT is not the best place to simply rant and not expect a debate in return. There is definitely a lot to complain about to the Obama administration, I agree with the OP there. But looking for sympathy, or rather, empathy in regards to complaining with no solutions in mind, is just being a Debbie Downer, strictly in my opinion. I hear people bitching every day outside of the pit about the gov't, the world, what we've been dealt with, etc. etc. but no one's searching for answers or solutions. That's why I ask the question of what ideas people have. Not to be a smart ass, but to make people think about what they'd really like to see happen, or at least offer an alternative. We solve nothing by sitting back and just complaining and taking no action. Perhaps we do lack empathy, but moreso, I see Americans lack motivation.
To solve it?
I'm talking about health care reform.
Am I not allowed to be who I am and do you have to call me names to feel good about yourself?
Read my post again. This time notice I have a medical problem. You can look it up. It's called bi polar and I suspect my President would care about what I had to say.
signed
DEBBIE DOWNER
I DO have empathy for this person because I personally know people who have gone through health care insurance nightmares. It's NOT the doctors and hospitals... it's the Insurance Companies that will dely payment causing stress on patients fighting life threatening diseases. Someone that is having to face the deadly spectre of something like cancer should NOT have to also fight their own insurance company... they should not face the financial ruin of their family as well as chemotherapy. But, it happens. People scared of Obama 'Death Panels' should come to realize that Death Panels ar already in businedss as insurance adjusters decide whether you are worth the pay out or not.
Finally, i AM one of those healthy Americans with great health care provided to me by the multi-billion comapny I work for. But, i am one pink slip away from losing it. And i know that most everyone else here is in the same boat as I am. I just hope that if that day comes... I still have my health... and there is a public option safety net to catch me if I don't.
Hail, Hail!!!
I don't want you to solve it, I'm trying to suggest looking at the problem from a solving angle. I wasn't calling you specifically DD, so I'm sorry you took it personally. Basically, you came on to MT to rant, and what we do here is debate. I'm all for Universal Healthcare, I have a child with a disability, so I'm not sitting pretty, and happy with insurance companies (I think it blows, personally).
I just believe that the answer to all the criticism is actually coming up with an idea to solve it. I would love universal healthcare. How about you?
i can see that you contacting your politicians has worked out well for you.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I'm in probably the most corrupt state in the union, but they are going to hear my voice anyway.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Start off...limiting the amount of money a physician can charge for a procedure. In Germany, Doctors don't make the money they do here in the U.S, however they are paid well and live good lives. Why do fireman make what they make when they save lives as well?
How about limiting how much hospitals can charge for a simple aspirin? There are literally hundreds of ways to cut costs.
I guess the real issue here is greed. People and institutions who have more than they need.
You're definitely on to something now. Yes, greed is a huge part of the issue, just ask the insurance company execs.
"Greed" and "Need" are highly subjective terms.
I suspect all of us with the time and means to post and debate on a message board look pretty "greedy" and have more than we "need" to the majority of the people living out there on this planet.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
that defines north american culture tho ... it's about getting the most ... unfortunately, you will have to move to either some commune or intentional community or other country to live in a place where people actually care about you aside from your family and friends ...
BhagavaGita greed is the major part of this issue. Be strong and maybe word will travel and some wealthy American will help you financially in this situation. Best wishes. Ishmael by Daniel Quinn great book.
polaris_x I do feel that your words have some truth to it.
You can't be serious.
Mexico is in the midst of the worst economic crisis in its history. Where are these illegal aliens fleeing to? Canada?
for the least they could possibly do