Anyone else think that these tickets WAY overpriced?? Hey , if you can get it great , but I think there should be a ceiling on these tickets.. I know, I know if you dont like the price then dont buy , but jeez for a concert? And they are only going to go up.. Love the band , love the shows, but I got more important issues to spend my money on.. AKA engagement rings, houses, weddings, beer...etc
Here's the thing. This is an older band comprised of dudes in their 40s with a fanbase that is largely over 30. The band has a lifestyle to support. I'm sure they live in nice houses, have healthy mortgages, etc...and (wealth being relative) need to bring in a certain amount to sustain that lifestyle. Most of the fanbase are no longer teenagers, and therefore have some disposable income to spend on things like this. Is $70-$80 expensive for a concert? Sure. It is unreasonable? Absolutely not considering how established the band is and how loyal their fans are. I think the fact that they aren't charging $150 to fans who are rabid enough to pay still says a lot.
you HONESTLY believe they have mortgages?!!?!?!
Exactly what I took away from that too, haha.
I don't think anyone who thinks they are overpriced is trying to debate this on an Economics 101 standpoint, more from the point that this band seems to be abandoning its own values. We've all heard stories of Ed going to shows as a kid... I don't see any neighborhood paperboys going to shows at $83.50 a pop.
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but I got more important issues to spend my money on.. AKA engagement rings
you will probably spend thousands of dollars on a small piece of metal with a rock attached to it. Get her a nice silver band for $50 and go see some shows. If she loves you less for not getting an expensive engagement ring which you clearly can't afford...who needs her.
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i had really want to see clapton when he came down. i AM a big fan and his music DOES mean a lot to me. but at the price they charged, i couldn't go. so the 'worth it' theory is BS to me. it made me sick...clapton has money he's been doing this all his life, WTF? why can't average joe shmo afford a ticket?
so are you saying your favorite band can charge outrageous prices knowing their fan will ALWAYS buy and it’s totally ok to you?
I’m just saying they’ll be no limit if bands have the upper hand.
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Anyone else think that these tickets WAY overpriced?? Hey , if you can get it great , but I think there should be a ceiling on these tickets.. I know, I know if you dont like the price then dont buy , but jeez for a concert? And they are only going to go up.. Love the band , love the shows, but I got more important issues to spend my money on.. AKA engagement rings, houses, weddings, beer...etc
Here's the thing. This is an older band comprised of dudes in their 40s with a fanbase that is largely over 30. The band has a lifestyle to support. I'm sure they live in nice houses, have healthy mortgages, etc...and (wealth being relative) need to bring in a certain amount to sustain that lifestyle. Most of the fanbase are no longer teenagers, and therefore have some disposable income to spend on things like this. Is $70-$80 expensive for a concert? Sure. It is unreasonable? Absolutely not considering how established the band is and how loyal their fans are. I think the fact that they aren't charging $150 to fans who are rabid enough to pay still says a lot.
Oh not this argument again. The article that came out a few weeks ago said they made $42 million touring between 2006 - 2008. I doubt that includes merchandise or royalties they collect from their back catalog. I highly doubt they have mortgages.
Anyone else think that these tickets WAY overpriced?? Hey , if you can get it great , but I think there should be a ceiling on these tickets.. I know, I know if you dont like the price then dont buy , but jeez for a concert? And they are only going to go up.. Love the band , love the shows, but I got more important issues to spend my money on.. AKA engagement rings, houses, weddings, beer...etc
Here's the thing. This is an older band comprised of dudes in their 40s with a fanbase that is largely over 30. The band has a lifestyle to support. I'm sure they live in nice houses, have healthy mortgages, etc...and (wealth being relative) need to bring in a certain amount to sustain that lifestyle. Most of the fanbase are no longer teenagers, and therefore have some disposable income to spend on things like this. Is $70-$80 expensive for a concert? Sure. It is unreasonable? Absolutely not considering how established the band is and how loyal their fans are. I think the fact that they aren't charging $150 to fans who are rabid enough to pay still says a lot.
Oh not this argument again. The article that came out a few weeks ago said they made $42 million touring between 2006 - 2008. I doubt that includes merchandise or royalties they collect from their back catalog. I highly doubt they have mortgages.
That was revenue, not gross profit, first of all. I think you'd be a fool to insinuate the band are 'roughing it', secondly, but yes, I agree that the 'band has to do it to get by' argument may not necessarily be the most valid.
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That was revenue, not gross profit, first of all. I think you'd be a fool to insinuate the band are 'roughing it', secondly, but yes, I agree that the 'band has to do it to get by' argument may not necessarily be the most valid.
We agree on something once again Hell has frozen over
I think the bottom line with this argument is...there are 2 sides pretty set in their opinion. On one side you have the people who insist the band can do no wrong and would say $200 a ticket is a deal (and the small subsection of those people who seem to think the band is starving and borderline homeless). And then you have borderline hypocrites like myself who truly believe the prices are outrageous and against everything the band seemingly stood for but then we end up buying the tickets anyway.
Anyone else think that these tickets WAY overpriced?? Hey , if you can get it great , but I think there should be a ceiling on these tickets.. I know, I know if you dont like the price then dont buy , but jeez for a concert? And they are only going to go up.. Love the band , love the shows, but I got more important issues to spend my money on.. AKA engagement rings, houses, weddings, beer...etc
So I see we're back at square one. Well I guess we all have our tickets now so we have to complain about something while we wait for the album release.
Well you capitalized "WAY overpriced" so I have to disagree with you there. They're not WAY overpriced. But they are a little overpriced. If they were way overpriced, that would imply that the show isn't worth it. And we all always walk out of a Pearl Jam concert thinking it was money well spent. $83 is a lot considering that contemporaries like Green Day and Radiohead charge in the $50 range and even Metallica, who is higher than Pearl Jam on the rock royalty list, charges about $15 less. So yeah, it's overpriced...but not WAY overpriced.
That was revenue, not gross profit, first of all. I think you'd be a fool to insinuate the band are 'roughing it', secondly, but yes, I agree that the 'band has to do it to get by' argument may not necessarily be the most valid.
We agree on something once again Hell has frozen over
I think the bottom line with this argument is...there are 2 sides pretty set in their opinion. On one side you have the people who insist the band can do no wrong and would say $200 a ticket is a deal (and the small subsection of those people who seem to think the band is starving and borderline homeless). And then you have borderline hypocrites like myself who truly believe the prices are outrageous and against everything the band seemingly stood for but then we end up buying the tickets anyway.
It's a nice change, I kinda like it!
I think you're right about those two sides - and there are a lot of people who share your exact beliefs.. I feel like if I was a bit older and actually witnessed the band fighting Ticketmaster, and preaching about being a band 'for the people', then I'd be one of them.
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I know, I know if you dont like the price then dont buy
exactly
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Is anyone else tired of this question? You'll find that the $80 the band charges is quite fair, and quite average. If there's a company that I'm not happy with their prices - I simply won't buy their products. Sadly, most overpriced products aren't as addictive as a Pearl Jam concert. In any case, it is what it is, but I don't know what can come out of this thread except the same circular arguments that result when every thread similar to this is made.
I think that the fact that this question keeps coming up is not a bad thing. If people stop talking about prices, then the prices could easily go up. I think that a big reason for Pearl Jam's ticket prices being lower than other bands is because they care about what their fans have to say. Sure it may result in a circular argument, but it provides a window into what fans are thinking, and what is important to them. The squeeky wheel get's the grease
And I'd just like to point out that there is a difference between something being expensive and something being overpriced.
I'm firmly in the camp that thinks these ticket prices are high, but overpriced? Absolutely not. If they were overpriced they wouldn't sell.
The next issue is why are they expensive. Some wackos say it's cause the band has lost their way and they are gouging the fans. Other wackos say that these prices are really low, and the band can do no wrong.
Either extreme is wrong in my opinion.
We do not and can not know what factors go into making the ticket prices what they are. It isn't just that the band is greedy. It's not only that ticketmaster and live nation are monopolizing and controlling prices. It's not the fact that there is a large organization of roadies, and managers, and coordinators who make decent livings that work for the band. It's not just the cost of gas, and travel expenses. It's not any one thing.
As a result of that I don't find it fair to accuse the band of abandoning their principles. We can't say that.
It would be just as wrong to say that the band is the greatest in the world, cause without their principles tickets would cost $150.00 each.
Maybe that is the case?
I don't think so, just as I don't think they are expensive cause the band is greedy.
So all you extremists, take a deep breath, a healthy dose of proper perspective, and get down off the ledge/the bands ass.
And then you have borderline hypocrites like myself who truly believe the prices are outrageous and against everything the band seemingly stood for but then we end up buying the tickets anyway.
I'm in that boat.
at least when it comes to pearl jam.
but let it be known, i don't go to multi pj shows like some of you. only when they come near me is when i buy tickets.
And I'd just like to point out that there is a difference between something being expensive and something being overpriced.
I'm firmly in the camp that thinks these ticket prices are high, but overpriced? Absolutely not. If they were overpriced they wouldn't sell. .
talking about some bands other than pj.......
i disagree.
look at what the Eagles did. they were overpriced (especially at that time) and people still snapped up tickets.
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1. IMO its a good value because you are guaranteed a 2.5-3 hour set. Can't be said about a lot of bands.
2. Try and find a festival ticket, Elton John, AC/DC, The Eagles, or Stones ticket for less than $75-$100.
1. IMO its a good value because you are guaranteed a 2.5-3 hour set. Can't be said about a lot of bands.
2. Try and find a festival ticket, Elton John, AC/DC, The Eagles, or Stones ticket for less than $75-$100.
They do put on a longer than avergae show...but saying guaranteed 2.5-3 hours is just wrong. You are guaranteed 2+ I think.
1. IMO its a good value because you are guaranteed a 2.5-3 hour set. Can't be said about a lot of bands.
2. Try and find a festival ticket, Elton John, AC/DC, The Eagles, or Stones ticket for less than $75-$100.
They do put on a longer than avergae show...but saying guaranteed 2.5-3 hours is just wrong. You are guaranteed 2+ I think.
I thought the only thing we are guaranteed is that the rules do not know me.
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1. IMO its a good value because you are guaranteed a 2.5-3 hour set. Can't be said about a lot of bands.
2. Try and find a festival ticket, Elton John, AC/DC, The Eagles, or Stones ticket for less than $75-$100.
They do put on a longer than avergae show...but saying guaranteed 2.5-3 hours is just wrong. You are guaranteed 2+ I think.
I thought the only thing we are guaranteed is that the rules do not know me.
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1. IMO its a good value because you are guaranteed a 2.5-3 hour set. Can't be said about a lot of bands.
2. Try and find a festival ticket, Elton John, AC/DC, The Eagles, or Stones ticket for less than $75-$100.
They do put on a longer than avergae show...but saying guaranteed 2.5-3 hours is just wrong. You are guaranteed 2+ I think.
I usually leave my stop watch at home for the shows.
3. Inflation. Everything just costs more these days. It is what it is.
besides the other guy's mortgage excuse, this one is one of the worst. Pearl Jam tickets has increased in price more than stamps in the past 6 years. And how many people complain when those get raised 2 cents a stamp?
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And I'd just like to point out that there is a difference between something being expensive and something being overpriced.
I'm firmly in the camp that thinks these ticket prices are high, but overpriced? Absolutely not. If they were overpriced they wouldn't sell.
The next issue is why are they expensive. Some wackos say it's cause the band has lost their way and they are gouging the fans. Other wackos say that these prices are really low, and the band can do no wrong.
Either extreme is wrong in my opinion.
We do not and can not know what factors go into making the ticket prices what they are. It isn't just that the band is greedy. It's not only that ticketmaster and live nation are monopolizing and controlling prices. It's not the fact that there is a large organization of roadies, and managers, and coordinators who make decent livings that work for the band. It's not just the cost of gas, and travel expenses. It's not any one thing.
As a result of that I don't find it fair to accuse the band of abandoning their principles. We can't say that.
It would be just as wrong to say that the band is the greatest in the world, cause without their principles tickets would cost $150.00 each.
Maybe that is the case?
I don't think so, just as I don't think they are expensive cause the band is greedy.
So all you extremists, take a deep breath, a healthy dose of proper perspective, and get down off the ledge/the bands ass.
rational, logical thoughts on this matter are not allowed here wilds...you should know that by now :P
3. Inflation. Everything just costs more these days. It is what it is.
besides the other guy's mortgage excuse, this one is one of the worst. Pearl Jam tickets has increased in price more than stamps in the past 6 years. And how many people complain when those get raised 2 cents a stamp?
I don't know... I'm not a paying member on a stamp forum
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For me it's a no brainer i don't really go to anyother shows so this $$$$ i spend on these shows will be it for me for the yr untill next tour ,i have no desire to see any other bands they just don't do it for me at all .....
1. IMO its a good value because you are guaranteed a 2.5-3 hour set. Can't be said about a lot of bands.
2. Try and find a festival ticket, Elton John, AC/DC, The Eagles, or Stones ticket for less than $75-$100.
They do put on a longer than avergae show...but saying guaranteed 2.5-3 hours is just wrong. You are guaranteed 2+ I think.
I usually leave my stop watch at home for the shows.
3. Inflation. Everything just costs more these days. It is what it is.
besides the other guy's mortgage excuse, this one is one of the worst. Pearl Jam tickets has increased in price more than stamps in the past 6 years. And how many people complain when those get raised 2 cents a stamp?
Is it really that bad of an argument? How much was gas back in 1990 vs today? They still use tour buses don't they?
3. Inflation. Everything just costs more these days. It is what it is.
besides the other guy's mortgage excuse, this one is one of the worst. Pearl Jam tickets has increased in price more than stamps in the past 6 years. And how many people complain when those get raised 2 cents a stamp?
Is it really that bad of an argument? How much was gas back in 1990 vs today? They still use tour buses don't they?
Yes it is a terrible one. If you are going back to 1990, it's even a worse argument.
3. Inflation. Everything just costs more these days. It is what it is.
besides the other guy's mortgage excuse, this one is one of the worst. Pearl Jam tickets has increased in price more than stamps in the past 6 years. And how many people complain when those get raised 2 cents a stamp?
I don't know... I'm not a paying member on a stamp forum
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Heck...ticket prices are up 26.5% in the last 3 years. So, maybe with the price of gas going up, the last 3 years ain't that bad...it was the 2003-2006 time frame which was pretty crazy...52% increase.
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Exactly what I took away from that too, haha.
I don't think anyone who thinks they are overpriced is trying to debate this on an Economics 101 standpoint, more from the point that this band seems to be abandoning its own values. We've all heard stories of Ed going to shows as a kid... I don't see any neighborhood paperboys going to shows at $83.50 a pop.
you will probably spend thousands of dollars on a small piece of metal with a rock attached to it. Get her a nice silver band for $50 and go see some shows. If she loves you less for not getting an expensive engagement ring which you clearly can't afford...who needs her.
not me
i had really want to see clapton when he came down. i AM a big fan and his music DOES mean a lot to me. but at the price they charged, i couldn't go. so the 'worth it' theory is BS to me. it made me sick...clapton has money he's been doing this all his life, WTF? why can't average joe shmo afford a ticket?
so are you saying your favorite band can charge outrageous prices knowing their fan will ALWAYS buy and it’s totally ok to you?
I’m just saying they’ll be no limit if bands have the upper hand.
Oh not this argument again. The article that came out a few weeks ago said they made $42 million touring between 2006 - 2008. I doubt that includes merchandise or royalties they collect from their back catalog. I highly doubt they have mortgages.
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We agree on something once again
I think the bottom line with this argument is...there are 2 sides pretty set in their opinion. On one side you have the people who insist the band can do no wrong and would say $200 a ticket is a deal (and the small subsection of those people who seem to think the band is starving and borderline homeless). And then you have borderline hypocrites like myself who truly believe the prices are outrageous and against everything the band seemingly stood for but then we end up buying the tickets anyway.
So I see we're back at square one. Well I guess we all have our tickets now so we have to complain about something while we wait for the album release.
Well you capitalized "WAY overpriced" so I have to disagree with you there. They're not WAY overpriced. But they are a little overpriced. If they were way overpriced, that would imply that the show isn't worth it. And we all always walk out of a Pearl Jam concert thinking it was money well spent. $83 is a lot considering that contemporaries like Green Day and Radiohead charge in the $50 range and even Metallica, who is higher than Pearl Jam on the rock royalty list, charges about $15 less. So yeah, it's overpriced...but not WAY overpriced.
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I think you're right about those two sides - and there are a lot of people who share your exact beliefs.. I feel like if I was a bit older and actually witnessed the band fighting Ticketmaster, and preaching about being a band 'for the people', then I'd be one of them.
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I think that the fact that this question keeps coming up is not a bad thing. If people stop talking about prices, then the prices could easily go up. I think that a big reason for Pearl Jam's ticket prices being lower than other bands is because they care about what their fans have to say. Sure it may result in a circular argument, but it provides a window into what fans are thinking, and what is important to them. The squeeky wheel get's the grease
seems like this gets confused around here a lot
I'm firmly in the camp that thinks these ticket prices are high, but overpriced? Absolutely not. If they were overpriced they wouldn't sell.
The next issue is why are they expensive. Some wackos say it's cause the band has lost their way and they are gouging the fans. Other wackos say that these prices are really low, and the band can do no wrong.
Either extreme is wrong in my opinion.
We do not and can not know what factors go into making the ticket prices what they are. It isn't just that the band is greedy. It's not only that ticketmaster and live nation are monopolizing and controlling prices. It's not the fact that there is a large organization of roadies, and managers, and coordinators who make decent livings that work for the band. It's not just the cost of gas, and travel expenses. It's not any one thing.
As a result of that I don't find it fair to accuse the band of abandoning their principles. We can't say that.
It would be just as wrong to say that the band is the greatest in the world, cause without their principles tickets would cost $150.00 each.
Maybe that is the case?
I don't think so, just as I don't think they are expensive cause the band is greedy.
So all you extremists, take a deep breath, a healthy dose of proper perspective, and get down off the ledge/the bands ass.
very good point.
I'm in that boat.
at least when it comes to pearl jam.
but let it be known, i don't go to multi pj shows like some of you. only when they come near me is when i buy tickets.
talking about some bands other than pj.......
i disagree.
look at what the Eagles did. they were overpriced (especially at that time) and people still snapped up tickets.
2. Try and find a festival ticket, Elton John, AC/DC, The Eagles, or Stones ticket for less than $75-$100.
They do put on a longer than avergae show...but saying guaranteed 2.5-3 hours is just wrong. You are guaranteed 2+ I think.
I thought the only thing we are guaranteed is that the rules do not know me.
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I usually leave my stop watch at home for the shows.
besides the other guy's mortgage excuse, this one is one of the worst. Pearl Jam tickets has increased in price more than stamps in the past 6 years. And how many people complain when those get raised 2 cents a stamp?
rational, logical thoughts on this matter are not allowed here wilds...you should know that by now
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Then why did you make a point about time?
Is it really that bad of an argument? How much was gas back in 1990 vs today? They still use tour buses don't they?
100% since 2003. Steep inflation.
Anyhow, I'm still buying and enjoying.
Yes it is a terrible one. If you are going back to 1990, it's even a worse argument.
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