Pearl Jam needs to do something different for the next record..

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  • zootown
    zootown Posts: 666
    Im really curious to see how the next album sounds. I think Eddie might be at the pinnacle of his creativity, as far as lyrics and songwriting. I think ITW helped him realize his potential fully. I think the biggest thing will be how collaborative the band is on the next record, or will Eddie want/be allowed to have even more control over things. Stone can still rip a mean riff and no one doubts the integrity of the band and O'Brien's skill at the mixing board, but I would think that Eddie has positioned himself as the "bottom line" with how the finished product sounds.
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  • reeferchief
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    The new album needs didgerido solos, as well as harp interludes between each song.
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  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    i'm 100% with you. i thought avocado was pretty bland. the album just never had a "feel" to it, you know?
  • MCG
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    Pearl Jam goes where the music takes them and I follow. They don't need to try and do anything but continue to create.
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  • mattosborne
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    I like what Adam Kasper did with the band but, i'm glad Brendan is back on board. I'd like to see a little more refined sound as well for this one. Just to be a little different, i'm not talking slick pop production but, a little more cohesiveness is in order. Love Reign O'er Me is a good example of what i'm talking about.
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  • augustwest
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    MCG wrote:
    Pearl Jam goes where the music takes them and I follow. They don't need to try and do anything but continue to create.

    i like that thought a lot. i'm sure they don't consciously go in to make a certain type of record and that i bet the process is pretty natural.

    rawk on :)
  • MattyJoe
    MattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    im with you, i dont like the whole going back to their roots stuff. they need to experiment more!

    They HAVEN'T gone back to their roots. That's what people say but are you gonna seriously tell me Yield is like Ten? No way! Where's the blind fury?
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  • 12345AGNST1
    12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    Personally, I'd love a big, tuneful, almost over-produced record this time, with a strings, percussion etc. feel to it. Kind of where they were going with the Love Reign O'er Me cover or Eddie's Hard Sun. They touched on it on Binaural too, with Sleight of Hand, Parting Ways etc.

    Don't get me wrong, I love the raw stuff, but it'd be interesting to see them take a shot at something different, and which they are definitely capable of.


    I disagree. Pearl Jam is a live band. Adding all of those instruments would make for a great studio album but i dont think it would translate well live. I think they should experiment though, just with only the instruments they use. I have a strong feeling this next album will have alot of experimentations.
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  • Army & Navy
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    zootown wrote:
    Im really curious to see how the next album sounds. I think Eddie might be at the pinnacle of his creativity, as far as lyrics and songwriting. I think ITW helped him realize his potential fully. I think the biggest thing will be how collaborative the band is on the next record, or will Eddie want/be allowed to have even more control over things. Stone can still rip a mean riff and no one doubts the integrity of the band and O'Brien's skill at the mixing board, but I would think that Eddie has positioned himself as the "bottom line" with how the finished product sounds.

    Spot on Sir! This will be Vedder's album I think. I doubt we'll see a song entirely written by Cameron popping up. I hope Eddie doesn't try and tailor his songs towards a 'Pearl Jam' style, thus losing the focus of the song. ITW felt a very natural album. No Code & Yield also had that vibe.

    For me their first 5 albums are the pinnacle of Pearl Jam. 3 so-so albums in a row is making feel that we may have seen the best that this band has, in terms of 'new' songs.

    I have to counter that though by saying as a live band I thought they had never been better in 06. (although Mike was getting abit flashy)
  • Big Ed
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  • I disagree. Pearl Jam is a live band. Adding all of those instruments would make for a great studio album but i dont think it would translate well live. I think they should experiment though, just with only the instruments they use. I have a strong feeling this next album will have alot of experimentations.

    Its not as hard to pull off strings and such live as you make it seem. That's what Boom is there for. He can program all sorts of things into his keyboard.

    Have you seen Radiohead live? They have no problem pulling off there weirder more experimental songs from Kid A and Amnesiac live. Sometimes it just takes making a different arrangement for the live version compared to the studio version.

    I would love PJ to try some more experimental stuff but I mean a real departure. Not the Vitology to No Code departure. I want more of a Joshua Tree to Achtung Baby departure. Or a The Bends to a OK Computer to a Kid A departure. I know the boys have it in them but they need to challenge themselves a bit more.

    BUT i did love the Avocado so as long as the songs are well written performed with ENERGY (I'm looking at you Riot Act) I'll be happy.
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  • 1STmammal2wearPants
    1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 2,997
    amen bro. I'd like another Binaural / No Code-type record in terms of experimentation. Lets get some strings on the albums......some voice distortion, etc.!!!
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  • Vital73
    Vital73 Posts: 34
    MattyJoe wrote:
    They HAVEN'T gone back to their roots. That's what people say but are you gonna seriously tell me Yield is like Ten? No way! Where's the blind fury?

    I think the fury has been replaced with concern. I mean, most of the early songs came from a place that Eddie and the band don't live in anymore. They have grown up, we have grown up. The music reflects the band and where they are in their own lives. Maybe the anger they felt in their own lives has been replaced with an anger and concern for their kids futures.

    I think Avacodo was a notice to everyone that they are not done, not by a long shot. They have a lot left to offer us as long as we don't long for what was. I for one look forward to what will be.

    I am very enthusiastic that whatever they produce will be another gem in it's own right. We go wrong I think when we compare everything to our own favorites, rather than on the material's own merits. I have my favorites but I have love for all of their work.

    My two cents....

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  • MattyJoe
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    They should make it really dark like Vs. They should let Stone just come up with tons of hard, grungy stuff and work it into songs. Too much Eddie on the last few albums.
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  • distantsun
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    obviously a creative force needs to do what comes naturally, so we can't dictate which direction the band will go or should go. that being said, i'm at the point where the studio albums do very little for me and i am all about the live show. they don't have to make another album. it's been done.
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  • RockKing
    RockKing Posts: 431
    distantsun wrote:
    obviously a creative force needs to do what comes naturally, so we can't dictate which direction the band will go or should go. that being said, i'm at the point where the studio albums do very little for me and i am all about the live show. they don't have to make another album. it's been done.

    How dare you?!?
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  • distantsun
    distantsun Posts: 265
    RockKing wrote:
    How dare you?!?

    hilarious.

    i know on some level, if you look deep within yourself, you agree.
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  • RockKing
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    distantsun wrote:
    hilarious.

    i know on some level, if you look deep within yourself, you agree.

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  • RockKing
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    Unless Pearl Jam really does do something different for once. Then I'm sincerely excited about it. But I could do without another Riot Act or PJ8.
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  • distantsun
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    i want to clarify, rockking.

    pj8 was good. it's just that...i've heard it already. you know?
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