PJ the new Grateful Dead.?!?! here is proof

jets521jets521 Posts: 804
edited August 2009 in The Porch
The Grateful Dead hold the record with 53 Spectrum Sell outs....

but have only played 4 consecutive shows one time!

1988: 9/8, 9/9, 9/11, 9/12


HOWEVER...they did play multiple two night or three night stands in the same calender year many times.


I am a dedicated dead head....and by no means PJ=GD.......just a fun fact
Wachovia Center, Philadelphia - 10/3/05
Tweeter Center, Camden - 5/27/06
Verizon Center, Wash. DC - 5/30/06
Bonnaroo, Manchester, TN - 6/14/08
Madison Square Garden, NYC - 6/19/08
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/28/09
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/30/09
Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/31/09
Madison Square Garden, NYC - 5/21/10
Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 10/21/13
1st Mariner Arena, Baltimore - 10/27/13
Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 4/28/16
Enterprise Center, Saint Louis - 9/18/22
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  • jets521jets521 Posts: 804
    even better: ZERO repeats over those four nights!!!! granted the average dead show is about half (song wise) the average PJ show
    Wachovia Center, Philadelphia - 10/3/05
    Tweeter Center, Camden - 5/27/06
    Verizon Center, Wash. DC - 5/30/06
    Bonnaroo, Manchester, TN - 6/14/08
    Madison Square Garden, NYC - 6/19/08
    Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/28/09
    Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/30/09
    Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/31/09
    Madison Square Garden, NYC - 5/21/10
    Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 10/21/13
    1st Mariner Arena, Baltimore - 10/27/13
    Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 4/28/16
    Enterprise Center, Saint Louis - 9/18/22
  • HbudjrHbudjr Posts: 150
    jets521 wrote:
    The Grateful Dead hold the record with 53 Spectrum Sell outs....

    but have only played 4 consecutive shows one time!

    1988: 9/8, 9/9, 9/11, 9/12


    HOWEVER...they did play say two night three night stands in the same calender year many times.


    I am a dedicated dead head....and by no means PJ=GD.......just a fun fact

    This is a valid observation.
    8/23/2009- Chicago- United Center
    5/6/2010- Columbus- Nationwide Arena
    6/26/2011- Detroit- Fox Theater- EV Solo
    9/22/2012- Atlanta- Piedmont Park
    10/11/2013- Pittsburgh - Consol Energy Center
    11/26/2013 - Oakland - Oracle Arena
    10/1/2014 - Cincinnati - US Bank Arena
    10/16/2014 - Detroit - Joe Lewis Arena
    4/26/2016 - Lexington - Rupp Arena (Hometown Show)
    8/20/2016 - Chicago - Wrigley Field
  • marcosmarcos Posts: 2,112
    I really wish I liked the Grateful Dead because I have so much respect for them. I just don't understand them I guess and I listen to everything. I suppose if I went to one of their concerts I would have liked them. Or maybe I haven't listened to the right Dead records.
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 94,087
    jets521 wrote:
    even better: ZERO repeats over those four nights!!!!

    :shock: :D :shock: 8-) :shock: :mrgreen: :shock:
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,511
    did you see the new stickers?
    built to last

    the transformation is almost complete ;)
    summer festivals and arena tours in spring and fall

    thank god PJ makes MUCH better studio albums

    lots of similarities other than the music
    who knows perhaps PJ will do space drums on the upcoming tour :mrgreen:
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,535
    Let's not get carried away they will repeat some of the songs but the set list will be different from night to night :) ..
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  • BelushiBelushi CA Posts: 13
    Pearl Jam was the last to play on the Grateful Dead stage at Soldiers Field. The Dead left it up for them and as we all know Jerry passed away weeks later. So yes I have been saying this for years that PJ and the Dead have the same concepts. Jeff agreed in an interview also that I saw years back about touring. The best part PJ had the purple haze just like the Dead @ soldiers field.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    No one comes close to the Dead when it comes to touring, they were the ultimate touring band. Unless PJ would like to up their ante and become a strict touring band - that means more than 20 shows a year - they don't compare other than the stat in the OP.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,329
    marcos wrote:
    I really wish I liked the Grateful Dead because I have so much respect for them. I just don't understand them I guess and I listen to everything. I suppose if I went to one of their concerts I would have liked them. Or maybe I haven't listened to the right Dead records.

    same here man...I don't see the attraction honestly
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  • CobCob Posts: 858
    I don't think Pearl Jam will EVER play 9 shows in a row at MSG! :lol::lol::lol::lol:
    [img][/img]9/5/92, 11/20/93, 3/14,15/94, 9/16/95, 10/14,15/2000
    4/5,6/9/2003, 9/1/05, 12/7/2005, 7/15,16,18/2006, 8/5/2007
    6/24,25/08,6/27/08,6/28/08,6/30/08
    9/21,22/2009, 10/4/2009
    5/6,7,9/2010, 9/3/2011 9/4/2011, 11/15/2013,
    11/16/2013, 12/8/2013, 10/5/2014, 10/12/2014,
    4/23, 5/10, 5/12, 8/20, 8/22 2016,
    8/8, 8/10, 8/18, 8/20 2018, 5/12, 5/13, 9/20 2022



  • st1st1 Posts: 143
    jets521 wrote:
    even better: ZERO repeats over those four nights!!!! granted the average dead show is about half (song wise) the average PJ show

    The Grateful Dead has zero repeats because each song is a jam that lasts 15 minutes; and each jam sounds like the last one.
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Their music couldn't be more dissimilar.
  • GS163319GS163319 Posts: 132
    st1 wrote:
    jets521 wrote:
    even better: ZERO repeats over those four nights!!!! granted the average dead show is about half (song wise) the average PJ show

    The Grateful Dead has zero repeats because each song is a jam that lasts 15 minutes; and each jam sounds like the last one.

    This is blatantly incorrect in several ways. I'm not a huge Dead fan in anyway, but I know them enough to call this out...
  • CobCob Posts: 858
    marcos wrote:
    I really wish I liked the Grateful Dead because I have so much respect for them. I just don't understand them I guess and I listen to everything. I suppose if I went to one of their concerts I would have liked them. Or maybe I haven't listened to the right Dead records.

    same here man...I don't see the attraction honestly

    You don't have to and the people who saw Grateful Dead all the time never worried about the people that didn't see the "attraction" we liked it and that's all we cared about, the majority of Deadheads I knew anyway, never bitched and moaned about others not liking the band, or try to talk other people into liking them, we went to the shows, minded our own business and had a good time.

    I always see people trying to compare PJ to Grateful Dead on here all the time and quite frankly to even bring it up is a COMPLETE joke, there will never be another Grateful Dead, it's as simple as that. For one thing the Grateful Dead never announced their tour dates over a 3 month time period. :lol:

    And as far as people not "getting it" or not seeing the "attraction" there is a famous Jerry Garcia quote from an interview and the interviewer is asking Jerry about the Deadheads, Jerry says,

    “Our audience is like people who like licorice. Not everybody likes licorice, but the people who like licorice really like licorice.”
    [img][/img]9/5/92, 11/20/93, 3/14,15/94, 9/16/95, 10/14,15/2000
    4/5,6/9/2003, 9/1/05, 12/7/2005, 7/15,16,18/2006, 8/5/2007
    6/24,25/08,6/27/08,6/28/08,6/30/08
    9/21,22/2009, 10/4/2009
    5/6,7,9/2010, 9/3/2011 9/4/2011, 11/15/2013,
    11/16/2013, 12/8/2013, 10/5/2014, 10/12/2014,
    4/23, 5/10, 5/12, 8/20, 8/22 2016,
    8/8, 8/10, 8/18, 8/20 2018, 5/12, 5/13, 9/20 2022



  • choopchoop Posts: 1,060
    i just saw the "built to last" stickers. nice. i wish pj would play a dead song at the spectrum to acknowledge the dead's record there.
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  • choopchoop Posts: 1,060
    marcos wrote:
    I really wish I liked the Grateful Dead because I have so much respect for them. I just don't understand them I guess and I listen to everything. I suppose if I went to one of their concerts I would have liked them. Or maybe I haven't listened to the right Dead records.

    this is how the dead and phish won me over, the live shows.

    and the live shows are how i turn friends on to pj. i think that is where the references of pj/the dead come from.
    "If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: The only proof he needed for the existence of God was music." KV Jr.
  • I always see people trying to compare PJ to Grateful Dead on here all the time and quite frankly to even bring it up is a COMPLETE joke, there will never be another Grateful Dead, it's as simple as that. For one thing the Grateful Dead never announced their tour dates over a 3 month time period. :lol:

    And as far as people not "getting it" or not seeing the "attraction" there is a famous Jerry Garcia quote from an interview and the interviewer is asking Jerry about the Deadheads, Jerry says,

    “Our audience is like people who like licorice. Not everybody likes licorice, but the people who like licorice really like licorice.”[/quote]

    spot on brother...
  • GS163319GS163319 Posts: 132
    choop wrote:
    marcos wrote:
    I really wish I liked the Grateful Dead because I have so much respect for them. I just don't understand them I guess and I listen to everything. I suppose if I went to one of their concerts I would have liked them. Or maybe I haven't listened to the right Dead records.

    this is how the dead and phish won me over, the live shows.

    and the live shows are how i turn friends on to pj. i think that is where the references of pj/the dead come from.

    Exactly. That is where they are similar. They both draw you in in ways that can't be explained.
  • marcos wrote:
    I really wish I liked the Grateful Dead because I have so much respect for them. I just don't understand them I guess and I listen to everything. I suppose if I went to one of their concerts I would have liked them. Or maybe I haven't listened to the right Dead records.

    Same thing here. I think they're boring as fuck, and I never understood their "superstar" status. It's a bit silly and out of control, especially where I live. (I feel the same way about KISS.)

    However, I am super, super respectful of the way they've treated their fans, and at the same time super jealous as someone whose favorite bands haven't released anything remotely close to an official boot, or in some cases you can barely find any REAL boots! Pearl Jam and The Pixies are the only bands I like who release official boots. Frank Zappa is another, but his family has only just started releasing vault material after a 10 year dry spell! And Zappa's vault is 10X the size of the Dead's. So Dead fans are EXTREMELY lucky!
  • NoKNoK Posts: 824
    jets521 wrote:
    The Grateful Dead hold the record with 53 Spectrum Sell outs....

    but have only played 4 consecutive shows one time!

    1988: 9/8, 9/9, 9/11, 9/12


    HOWEVER...they did play multiple two night or three night stands in the same calender year many times.


    I am a dedicated dead head....and by no means PJ=GD.......just a fun fact

    What about 10th of September..
  • Since yesterday marked the 14th yr of Jerry's death I thought I would post this here.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-WYKctZmso


    I have a strong connection for Pearl Jam and The Grateful Dead. Both bands mean alot to me in so many ways.

    I love threads like this. :)
  • jets521jets521 Posts: 804
    NoK wrote:
    jets521 wrote:
    The Grateful Dead hold the record with 53 Spectrum Sell outs....

    but have only played 4 consecutive shows one time!

    1988: 9/8, 9/9, 9/11, 9/12


    HOWEVER...they did play multiple two night or three night stands in the same calender year many times.


    I am a dedicated dead head....and by no means PJ=GD.......just a fun fact

    What about 10th of September..


    off night!




    and i was in no way comparing the two bands in my OP...just merely pointing out a fun fact about the spectrum. i am a huge dead head, they were my first love.

    "they are not the best at what they do, they are the only ones at what they do" -bill graham
    "there is NOTHING like a grateful dead concert"
    Wachovia Center, Philadelphia - 10/3/05
    Tweeter Center, Camden - 5/27/06
    Verizon Center, Wash. DC - 5/30/06
    Bonnaroo, Manchester, TN - 6/14/08
    Madison Square Garden, NYC - 6/19/08
    Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/28/09
    Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/30/09
    Spectrum, Philadelphia - 10/31/09
    Madison Square Garden, NYC - 5/21/10
    Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 10/21/13
    1st Mariner Arena, Baltimore - 10/27/13
    Wells Fargo Center, Philadelphia - 4/28/16
    Enterprise Center, Saint Louis - 9/18/22
  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    choop wrote:
    i just saw the "built to last" stickers. nice. i wish pj would play a dead song at the spectrum to acknowledge the dead's record there.

    where is this? Im looking at the stickers now
    5/28/06, 6/27/08, 10/28/09, 5/18/10, 5/21/10
    8/7/08, 6/9/09
  • KloddzKloddz Posts: 2,573
    Cob wrote:
    I don't think Pearl Jam will EVER play 9 shows in a row at MSG! :lol::lol::lol::lol:
    But if they did... And I lived in New York... And had the money to afford it... I would so be there all 9 of them! :lol:
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  • KloddzKloddz Posts: 2,573
    demetrios wrote:
    jets521 wrote:
    even better: ZERO repeats over those four nights!!!!

    :shock: :D :shock: 8-) :shock: :mrgreen: :shock:
    Assuming about 27-28 songs a night that would take it to roughly 110 different songs the guys would have to practice... And there's no way Ed could memorize the lyrics to that many at the same time ;)
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,511


    I have a strong connection for Pearl Jam and The Grateful Dead. Both bands mean alot to me in so many ways.

    I love threads like this. :)
    same here
    In lot of ways, PJ filled the live music void left by Jerry's passing.

    And the stickers are in the thread about Calgary merchandise
  • starmap3333starmap3333 Posts: 3,925
    When they DO make the arena to stadium only transition... I can;t wait to hear the bitching!!!! :mrgreen:

    and, please, don't compare them to the grateful dead. you're comparing pitchers and catchers...
  • Interesting thread...I loved the dead and had the oportunity to see them live many times over the years, however, I never cared much for their studio work. Their live shows were where it was at...the music, the crowd and the general atmosphere at the show. It was just fantastic for many years. While they're musically different, I can see some similarities between GD & PJ...besides the fact you can make initials outta their names and people still know who the hell you're talking about. The fanbase is very alike in its adoration of the band....to the point of being zealots at times. Live shows are all different & wonderful to behold. They love their fans and do treat them well (even though i know some don't believe this). I'm glad of the differences...namely, that Eddie wont die of heroin addiction.
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    demetrios wrote:
    jets521 wrote:
    even better: ZERO repeats over those four nights!!!!

    :shock: :D :shock: 8-) :shock: :mrgreen: :shock:


    Except for Evenflow. I need to go to the bathroom knowing I didn't miss anything. :D
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  • CobCob Posts: 858
    When they DO make the arena to stadium only transition... I can;t wait to hear the bitching!!!! :mrgreen:

    and, please, don't compare them to the grateful dead. you're comparing pitchers and catchers...

    Arena to stadium transition! :lol::lol: Good one........
    [img][/img]9/5/92, 11/20/93, 3/14,15/94, 9/16/95, 10/14,15/2000
    4/5,6/9/2003, 9/1/05, 12/7/2005, 7/15,16,18/2006, 8/5/2007
    6/24,25/08,6/27/08,6/28/08,6/30/08
    9/21,22/2009, 10/4/2009
    5/6,7,9/2010, 9/3/2011 9/4/2011, 11/15/2013,
    11/16/2013, 12/8/2013, 10/5/2014, 10/12/2014,
    4/23, 5/10, 5/12, 8/20, 8/22 2016,
    8/8, 8/10, 8/18, 8/20 2018, 5/12, 5/13, 9/20 2022



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