Mr. O nails it again

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    prfctlefts wrote:
    i have a few thoughts.....

    first off i will post the article so everyone will be more willing to read it instead of having to clickthe link...

    ONCE AGAIN, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES NOT PROTECT US

    Wednesday, July 29, 2009
    By Bill O'Reilly

    E-Mail Print Share Here's the front-page headline in The Wall Street Journal Tuesday: "Traders Blamed for Oil Spike."

    The government now admits that greedy speculators artificially drove up the price of oil, hurting all Americans and lighting the fuse for the intense recession. The speculators drove the price of oil from $55 a barrel to $145. Along the way, the oil companies raised their prices to us in concert with that.

    There was no supply and demand issue. There was no refining issue. It was all a big con. The government agency overseeing the commodities market allowed it to happen, and then denied it happened, but Tuesday admitted it happened.

    You may remember that I was the first broadcast journalist to report this story, back in April 2006:

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: Many of us can expect to pay $3 a gallon for gasoline this summer, thanks to some speculators who are bidding up the price of oil and to the oil companies who love that kind of speculation so they can raise prices accordingly.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    Subsequently, I did a number of reports on the oil corruption because it was hurting all of us. I knew it was a bad situation, but I never thought it would ignite a worldwide recession.

    You also may remember that just about every financial journalist told me I was nuts. So did most politicians. Now, I'm not gloating. I am proud that for 13 years, "The Factor" has looked out for you and has been right 95 percent of the time.

    But the bigger question is the federal government. It simply cannot or will not control corruption. Look, we are all suffering now, partially because billions of dollars were taken out of the economy and put in the pockets of the oil companies and the speculators. That led directly to the economic collapse.

    President Bush apparently had no clue. Now President Obama wants the government to run the financial system and the health care industry. In my opinion, that will lead to disaster for this country. Quite simply, the federal government cannot run the economy, health care or assure your personal happiness.

    If President Obama continues down the big government road of social engineering, you will see massive, massive corruption. We might also see the USA go into bankruptcy and the dollar crash. Already some speculators are betting against the dollar, which is troubling because all of our savings and earnings are based on a viable American dollar.

    The federal government's primary job is to protect us from bad people, whether they are terrorists, corrupt speculators or health care charlatans. This oil speculation deal should be an enormous wake-up call for all of us.

    And that's "The Memo."

    Pinheads & Patriots

    A bulletin: A 22-year-old extreme kayaker from Montana breaks a world record. Tyler Bradt went over Palouse Falls in Washington state. The 186-foot drop is the highest kayak descent in the books. When he landed on the bottom, Tyler sank 20 feet, but amazingly his only injury was a sprained wrist. For his daring, if not smarts, Mr. Bradt is a patriot.

    Click here to watch "Pinheads & Patriots"!

    On the pinhead front, our pal Bill Maher continues to define America in rather questionable ways, here while discussing Sarah Palin on CNN:

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: Do you think she has a future nationally as a presidential candidate?

    BILL MAHER, HOST, "REAL TIME WITH BILL MAHER": I don't know about a presidential candidate, but I would never put anything past this stupid country.

    BLITZER: So people are already complaining that you're calling the United States a stupid country and giving you a chance to clarify.

    MAHER: I don't need to clarify. It is.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    Obviously this is not a stupid country, so wise up, Bill, and don't be a pinhead."

    ooooh so big bill breaks the story that we already knew. and of course he claims credit for it.
    "You also may remember that just about every financial journalist told me I was nuts. So did most politicians. Now, I'm not gloating. I am proud that for 13 years, "The Factor" has looked out for you and has been right 95 percent of the time." now i have heard everything. :roll:

    the funniest thing to me is that oreilly and his ilk are all for small government and no interference in the market and now he is calling for government to interfere in the market and clamp down on the speculators. i agree with him on that, but why the sudden change of heart? why now? oreilly speaks of how we are all suffering now. the guy is a multi millionaire so he is not suffering. so much for his populist credibility there. i like how he says bush had no clue, which is what everyone has been saying since day one. then he goes on to say " President Bush apparently had no clue. Now President Obama wants the government to run the financial system and the health care industry. In my opinion, that will lead to disaster for this country. Quite simply, the federal government cannot run the economy, health care or assure your personal happiness." oreilly says this but offers no data on how this will all ruin the country. more opinion and more spreading of fear. i am scared, how about all of you?

    since the kayaker went off the cliff he is now a patriot? that term is being thrown around quite loosely nowadays. i am gonna go all x-games and do a 20 story rail slide. would tha tmake me a patriot? or an idiot like this kayaker clearly is. if he had died would he have been a martyr bill?

    lastly, i agree with maher. from the support she continues to get if she is a major player in national politics this is a very stupid country. guess i am a pinhead. ;)
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Im sorry but I don't know how or else I would, but then again... Not everyone is as intelligent as you are or I could just get you to do it for me. furthermore it's obvious you don't know much about him. his opinions and you have probably never even watched his show or the Millions of dollars he donates to charities but then again Im not surprised you would cos it' pretty obvious any one with a conservative opinion or who doesn't agree with you you just bash anyway. Maybe you should change your user name to givemesomehate 27 it would fit much better. ;) and also History has shown us what will happen when big Gov takes over.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Im sorry but I don't know how or else I would, but then again... Not everyone is as intelligent as you are or I could just get you to do it for me. furthermore it's obvious you don't know much about him. his opinions and you have probably never even watched his show or the Millions of dollars he donates to charities but then again Im not surprised you would cos it' pretty obvious any one with a conservative opinion or who doesn't agree with you you just bash anyway. Maybe you should change your user name to givemesomehate 27 it would fit much better. ;) and also History has shown us what will happen when big Gov takes over.

    you did not address my take on the article, rather you cutely had a go at my screen name and said that everyone is not as intelligent as i am. i addressed the point of the speculators driving up the costs and that i feel the government should intervene. was that not the point of this article?? i also pointed out the irony that oreilly and conservatives are for small government and no intrusion into the market by the governent, yet now he is in favor of it. you can not have it both ways and he is speaking out of both sides of his mouth. how can you and oreilly reconcile that position now? on a side note, you have said before that you do not even need to buy gas, rather you use public transportation, so why are you worried about gas prices and speculation? is it because oreilly cracked the case and the liberal media is ignoring it?

    i do not know much about oreilly, nor do i care. he may give away millions in charity, but he is far from poor. every book he sells and every product that sponsors his show is keeping bill-o quite comfortable. in spite of what he may say. i am bashing the hypocracy, not the conservative viewpoint. i don't know how i can make it any more clear. i have pointed out HYPOCRACY in several other threads. i am not having a go at you on purpose, you just happen to be defending the hypocrates. i am just trying to pry the reasons for your support of these people out of you since you do not say why you support these people.

    and specifically what are you referring to when you say we know what happens when big Gov takes over? i am not following where you were going with that.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • but he is far from poor. every book he sells and every product that sponsors his show is keeping bill-o quite comfortable. in spite of what he may say.
    So is that a crime what' wrong with being successful. Why don't you read his bio on his web site and learn something about him and you will see that he grew up in a middle class family from Levittown NY and busted hiss ass to get where he is today.
    And how can you accuse him of being a hypocrite when you don't even watch his show . BIll doesn't claim to be a Conservative He's an INDEPENDENT with Traditional values.
    yet now he is in favor of it. you can not have it both ways and he is speaking out of both sides of his mouth. how can you and oreilly reconcile that position now?

    He has always had the same stance on gov. smaller gov but it's there job to protect americans from being taken advantage of by greedy corporations or corrupt politicians


    quote="gimmesometruth27"]you have said before that you do not even need to buy gas, rather you use public transportation, so why are you worried about gas prices and speculation? [/quote]

    Why you ask??? because it's hurting americans that's why I care
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    O'Reilly? Really? I'd like to see him nail something, how about a hammer to his head
  • prfctlefts wrote:
    Im sorry but I don't know how or else I would, but then again... Not everyone is as intelligent as you are or I could just get you to do it for me. furthermore it's obvious you don't know much about him. his opinions and you have probably never even watched his show or the Millions of dollars he donates to charities but then again Im not surprised you would cos it' pretty obvious any one with a conservative opinion or who doesn't agree with you you just bash anyway. Maybe you should change your user name to givemesomehate 27 it would fit much better. ;) and also History has shown us what will happen when big Gov takes over.
    I've watched O'reilly.
    Maybe HE should change his name to I CAN'T DO IT, FUCK IT'

    Fucken douche.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJjNVVwRCY
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Im sorry but I don't know how or else I would, but then again... Not everyone is as intelligent as you are or I could just get you to do it for me. furthermore it's obvious you don't know much about him. his opinions and you have probably never even watched his show or the Millions of dollars he donates to charities but then again Im not surprised you would cos it' pretty obvious any one with a conservative opinion or who doesn't agree with you you just bash anyway. Maybe you should change your user name to givemesomehate 27 it would fit much better. ;) and also History has shown us what will happen when big Gov takes over.
    I've watched O'reilly.
    Maybe HE should change his name to I CAN'T DO IT, FUCK IT'

    Fucken douche.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJjNVVwRCY

    *Fuck it* that was hilarious. He seems to have pretty healthy temperment which loses itself quite often. :D

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    prfctlefts wrote:
    but he is far from poor. every book he sells and every product that sponsors his show is keeping bill-o quite comfortable. in spite of what he may say.
    So is that a crime what' wrong with being successful. Why don't you read his bio on his web site and learn something about him and you will see that he grew up in a middle class family from Levittown NY and busted hiss ass to get where he is today.
    And how can you accuse him of being a hypocrite when you don't even watch his show . BIll doesn't claim to be a Conservative He's an INDEPENDENT with Traditional values.
    yet now he is in favor of it. you can not have it both ways and he is speaking out of both sides of his mouth. how can you and oreilly reconcile that position now?

    He has always had the same stance on gov. smaller gov but it's there job to protect americans from being taken advantage of by greedy corporations or corrupt politicians



    quote="gimmesometruth27"]you have said before that you do not even need to buy gas, rather you use public transportation, so why are you worried about gas prices and speculation?

    Why you ask??? because it's hurting americans that's why I care[/quote]
    i read his bio and nope, it does not change my opinion of the man. i still think he is a self righteous know-it-all blowhard. all he is is a dickhead with a microphone and a tv camera. to answer your question no, being successful is not a crime. but to do it in the way that oreilly has might be criminal. to spew the garbage of the bush whitehouse, make the case for going to war and attacking anyone with a rational argument all contributed to the swaying of public opinion on certain important issues. that makes him as responsible as those in power at the time. to be quite honest with you i watched his show for awhile several years ago but i could not deal with the disrespectful manner in which he berated his guests and talked over them. then i realized how to think critically and began to see through his BS and began to get my "news" elsewhere.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • dasvidanadasvidana Grand Junction CO Posts: 1,349
    Mr. ORielly, like Lou Dobbs, Chris Matthews, etc, is a loud mouthpiece for a specific agenda. Barack Obama said it best when he said he didn't watch cable news. He likened it to fake wrestling. Each player has a role to play and each is not really there to further an real honest debate....not worthy of being called news since it is far from impartial..
    It's nice to be nice to the nice.
  • weenieweenie Posts: 1,623
    This is old news. 60 minutes and several other TV news programs did stories detailing oil speculation and how gas prices were manipulated about a year ago. :roll:
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  • OffHeGoes29OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    dasvidana wrote:
    Mr. ORielly, like Lou Dobbs, Chris Matthews, etc, is a loud mouthpiece for a specific agenda. Barack Obama said it best when he said he didn't watch cable news. He likened it to fake wrestling. Each player has a role to play and each is not really there to further an real honest debate....not worthy of being called news since it is far from impartial..

    Don't forget John Stewart to your list....there are plenty of people that take his "fake" new seriously
    BRING BACK THE WHALE
  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    prfctlefts wrote:

    Any thoughts? Ya, stop watching fox news. It's bad for your soul.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    dasvidana wrote:
    Mr. ORielly, like Lou Dobbs, Chris Matthews, etc, is a loud mouthpiece for a specific agenda. Barack Obama said it best when he said he didn't watch cable news. He likened it to fake wrestling. Each player has a role to play and each is not really there to further an real honest debate....not worthy of being called news since it is far from impartial..

    Don't forget John Stewart to your list....there are plenty of people that take his "fake" new seriously
    As Jon Stewart himself said though, 'ITS A COMEDY SHOW'.

    Jon Stewart does not have the responsibility that O'Rielly, Matthews, or Olberman have to report simply because he is an entertainer, not a reporter.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • OffHeGoes29OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    dasvidana wrote:
    Mr. ORielly, like Lou Dobbs, Chris Matthews, etc, is a loud mouthpiece for a specific agenda. Barack Obama said it best when he said he didn't watch cable news. He likened it to fake wrestling. Each player has a role to play and each is not really there to further an real honest debate....not worthy of being called news since it is far from impartial..

    Don't forget John Stewart to your list....there are plenty of people that take his "fake" new seriously
    As Jon Stewart himself said though, 'ITS A COMEDY SHOW'.

    Jon Stewart does not have the responsibility that O'Rielly, Matthews, or Olberman have to report simply because he is an entertainer, not a reporter.

    The Onion is fake news, some people on this board have been known to use The Daily Show as a source
    BRING BACK THE WHALE
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    dasvidana wrote:
    Mr. ORielly, like Lou Dobbs, Chris Matthews, etc, is a loud mouthpiece for a specific agenda. Barack Obama said it best when he said he didn't watch cable news. He likened it to fake wrestling. Each player has a role to play and each is not really there to further an real honest debate....not worthy of being called news since it is far from impartial..


    The Onion is fake news, some people on this board have been known to use The Daily Show as a source
    Those people are idiots.

    I certainly will occaisionally use a point Mr. Stewart or one of his guests brings up, as I feel he is an intelligent man who has a varied guestes on his show!
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    weenie wrote:
    This is old news. 60 minutes and several other TV news programs did stories detailing oil speculation and how gas prices were manipulated about a year ago. :roll:


    many still don't believe it, when i brought it up a month or so a go i was told it was nonsense
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  • weenieweenie Posts: 1,623
    weenie wrote:
    This is old news. 60 minutes and several other TV news programs did stories detailing oil speculation and how gas prices were manipulated about a year ago. :roll:


    many still don't believe it, when i brought it up a month or so a go i was told it was nonsense


    I wish I had a link to one of the programs I saw. I admit, it was pretty hard to stomach, but all the hard evidence was there. 60 minutes did one of the exposes, but the best program (if I recall correctly) was the evening Dateline program. Must have been at least 8 - 9 months ago, if not longer. The Bush administration was complicit and there's really nothing in place to stop something similar from occurring again except awareness.
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  • The federal government knew about this long ago. I posted links to the following report back on the old board while discussing oil prices.

    http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cf ... &Issue_id=

    Hillary discussed this during the democratic primary debates.
  • weenie wrote:
    This is old news. 60 minutes and several other TV news programs did stories detailing oil speculation and how gas prices were manipulated about a year ago. :roll:

    What he said was the Feds are now admitting to it and he reported on this subject back in April of 2006 so I think it's fair to say he was ahead of 60 mins and the mainstream media.
  • weenieweenie Posts: 1,623
    prfctlefts wrote:
    weenie wrote:
    This is old news. 60 minutes and several other TV news programs did stories detailing oil speculation and how gas prices were manipulated about a year ago. :roll:

    What he said was the Feds are now admitting to it and he reported on this subject back in April of 2006 so I think it's fair to say he was ahead of 60 mins and the mainstream media.

    Maybe because he has exaggerated so many stories over his career, that nobody paid attention to him?? I don't know. Bush was in the Whitehouse then so maybe he was just told to shut the hell up. Everybody is aware of Bush's ties to oil and the Saudis.
    ~I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with such things as crawl upon earth.~
    Mohandas K. Gandhi

    ~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
    Henry David Thoreau
  • Exaggerated what stories?? Think about it why would he be number 1 in ratings for as long as he has if he exaggerated all the time ,Nobody would watch his show. Not to mention he was always saying that he thought Rummy should resign for his carelessness for a number of reasons during the war like the issue about the soldiers not getting the armour they needed or the time he was using a stamp instead of signing his name on the letters to the families of fallen soldiers. It doesn't matter to him if it's a Dem or a Republican, if he sees a person or a politician who he think is causing harm to this country or us he's the man who will let you know.
  • weenieweenie Posts: 1,623
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Exaggerated what stories?? Think about it why would he be number 1 in ratings for as long as he has if he exaggerated all the time ,Nobody would watch his show. Not to mention he was always saying that he thought Rummy should resign for his carelessness for a number of reasons during the war like the issue about the soldiers not getting the armour they needed or the time he was using a stamp instead of signing his name on the letters to the families of fallen soldiers. It doesn't matter to him if it's a Dem or a Republican, if he sees a person or a politician who he think is causing harm to this country or us he's the man who will let you know.

    You like him that's fine. I can't stand him. To be honest, you're the first person I can think of that I've heard say that they like him. Maybe I'm just not paying attention. All a matter of taste like everything else.
    ~I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with such things as crawl upon earth.~
    Mohandas K. Gandhi

    ~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
    Henry David Thoreau
  • No worries.. either you love him or you hate him. ;)
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Exaggerated what stories?? Think about it why would he be number 1 in ratings for as long as he has if he exaggerated all the time ,Nobody would watch his show. Not to mention he was always saying that he thought Rummy should resign for his carelessness for a number of reasons during the war like the issue about the soldiers not getting the armour they needed or the time he was using a stamp instead of signing his name on the letters to the families of fallen soldiers. It doesn't matter to him if it's a Dem or a Republican, if he sees a person or a politician who he think is causing harm to this country or us he's the man who will let you know.
    American Idol is the top rated show on TV.

    Also, the 'left' is split by MSNBC, CNN, etc...
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    brandon10 wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:

    Any thoughts? Ya, stop watching fox news. It's bad for your soul.

    Ditto for me. Actually, I refuse to read or watch anything coming from FOX News.
  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Exaggerated what stories?? Think about it why would he be number 1 in ratings for as long as he has if he exaggerated all the time ,Nobody would watch his show. Not to mention he was always saying that he thought Rummy should resign for his carelessness for a number of reasons during the war like the issue about the soldiers not getting the armour they needed or the time he was using a stamp instead of signing his name on the letters to the families of fallen soldiers. It doesn't matter to him if it's a Dem or a Republican, if he sees a person or a politician who he think is causing harm to this country or us he's the man who will let you know.

    When will he let us know that he is causing harm to the country?
  • prfctlefts wrote:
    Exaggerated what stories?? Think about it why would he be number 1 in ratings for as long as he has if he exaggerated all the time ,Nobody would watch his show. Not to mention he was always saying that he thought Rummy should resign for his carelessness for a number of reasons during the war like the issue about the soldiers not getting the armour they needed or the time he was using a stamp instead of signing his name on the letters to the families of fallen soldiers. It doesn't matter to him if it's a Dem or a Republican, if he sees a person or a politician who he think is causing harm to this country or us he's the man who will let you know.
    American Idol is the top rated show on TV.

    Also, the 'left' is split by MSNBC, CNN, etc...
    sorry I should have been more specific... Cable television,news
  • brandon10 wrote:
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Exaggerated what stories?? Think about it why would he be number 1 in ratings for as long as he has if he exaggerated all the time ,Nobody would watch his show. Not to mention he was always saying that he thought Rummy should resign for his carelessness for a number of reasons during the war like the issue about the soldiers not getting the armour they needed or the time he was using a stamp instead of signing his name on the letters to the families of fallen soldiers. It doesn't matter to him if it's a Dem or a Republican, if he sees a person or a politician who he think is causing harm to this country or us he's the man who will let you know.

    When will he let us know that he is causing harm to the country?

    Like what ,be specific please cos I really want to see what you have to say
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