hello mods, are ther going to be official boots?

Pegasus

JordyWordy wrote:

the band record all the shows anyway dont they? and No More live version on ITW was from Nijmegen 2007, at Dusseldorf ed mentioned the boots, and at Werchter Ed also said they were recording the show....

....eventually if they want to release them they will

yeah but in LA said something along the lines of 'that's why we don't do bootlegs anymore' (after having said 'Fuck San Diego' )

I have 0 hopes of official bootlegs, so planning on doing all my own taping.. but I'd love to be pleasantly surprised

JordyWordy

Pegasus wrote:

yeah but in LA said something along the lines of 'that's why we don't do bootlegs anymore' (after having said 'Fuck San Diego' )

id forgotten reading about that ! ....eds so cruel, toying with us like that!

it would be a great surprise. that would make my day

vedder_soup

the mods are too busy deleting threads, deleting youtube content and banning people to answer genuine questions that fans want answered...

ashtrayrock

this official band silence about this issue is disheartening

mjb

Pegasus wrote:

yeah but in LA said something along the lines of 'that's why we don't do bootlegs anymore' (after having said 'Fuck San Diego' )

I have 0 hopes of official bootlegs, so planning on doing all my own taping.. but I'd love to be pleasantly surprised

yep he did didn't he...I suspect there has been some kind of "decision" here to try and curb illegal trading while a boot is being offered for sale. I think we'll see some retails boots in our future, but immediate .mp3 (or flac or whatever) seem to be gonzo.

Chazz

Pegasus wrote:

yeah but in LA said something along the lines of 'that's why we don't do bootlegs anymore' (after having said 'Fuck San Diego' )

I have 0 hopes of official bootlegs, so planning on doing all my own taping.. but I'd love to be pleasantly surprised

Unfortunately I think you're right.....I'm sure in one of his radio/internet interviews Stone said something along the lines of "the band being more selective of the material they put out", I hope this is wrong but I've got a bad feeling that we've seen the end of every show in a tour being released....... :(

jeffbr

hopethatuchoke wrote:

I would be THRILLED with that but i'm sure many would complain they aren't flac's, wav's, lossless or whatever the hell all that stuff is.

If they only offered MP3s and wanted to charge us for them, I'd provide them with constructive customer feedback about their product offering (if you call that complaining, so be it). If they offered them for free download I wouldn't. I would never pay for compressed, lower-fidelity music files.

Soybeans

Guess it's back to low quality $50 bootlegs from scumbags taping and selling at shows. I thought we had come further than that.

JP2026766

See, this is what JamilyMan eluded to earlier...the mods could easily nip this in the bud with a short post...

2-feign-reluctance

ThrowUrArmsAroundMe wrote:

See, this is what JamilyMan eluded to earlier...the mods could easily nip this in the bud with a short post...

they could, but isn't it more fun to "step out on the porch" and discuss?

Yellow Ledbelly

I would like to have bootlegs as much as the next fella but seriously, why would we expect the 10C staff to be johnny-on-the-spot with an answer to any question we might ask? Perhaps I underestimate the amount of information to which the staff is readily available and free to share whenever the hell they get ready to.

We would like to have answers, but we damn sure don't deserve answers whenever the hell we think we should have them regarding boots, tours or whatever. Somehow, I don't feel like my loyalty to the band through the years gives me any stock in business decisions.

If I was a 10C staffer my standard answer to a question like "Are we gettng boots? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!" would be:

"THat's for us to know and for you to worry about."

JP2026766

2-feign-reluctance wrote:

they could, but isn't it more fun to "step out on the porch" and discuss?

It is to a point, but then it gets to be too much. Not that I'm saying it's at that point right now, but a response would be nice.

PissBottleMan

Yellow Ledbelly wrote:

I would like to have bootlegs as much as the next fella but seriously, why would we expect the 10C staff to be johnny-on-the-spot with an answer to any question we might ask?

They are a business and we are customers. It's just good business sense to have a good relationship between the two.

Let's say you like Shamrock Shakes from McDonalds. March 1st rolls around and you notice there are no Shamrock Shakes in stores, so you ask the manager of store or call Micky D's headquarters to find out if they are going to carry them and they say, "That's for us to know and you to find out".

Without your customers (i.e. fans), what are you?

If you're not going to carry bootlegs or Shamrock Shakes...that's cool...just give the consumer a heads-up.

PBM

pjsteelerfan

Part of the problem could be everytime there is a thread asking for info about the band/tour/albulm/posters/recordings/pictures/release dates etc. from the mods, they don't want or have time to respond to every single one every single time with "I don't know, when we know, you will know". I am sure there is a lot of stuff they don't have answers for. Another thing could be they are not allowed to give us the info everyone wants. So the only thing they can do is not say anything at all.

PissBottleMan

pjsteelerfan wrote:

I am sure there is a lot of stuff they don't have answers for. Another thing could be they are not allowed to give us the info everyone wants. So the only thing they can do is not say anything at all.

I think that is fine...but, just inform the fans just as if you are a fan and not a contracted employee of 10 Club, Inc.



PBM

Yellow Ledbelly

PissBottleMan wrote:

They are a business and we are customers. It's just good business sense to have a good relationship between the two.

Let's say you like Shamrock Shakes from McDonalds. March 1st rolls around and you notice there are no Shamrock Shakes in stores, so you ask the manager of store or call Micky D's headquarters to find out if they are going to carry them and they say, "That's for us to know and you to find out".

Without your customers (i.e. fans), what are you?

If you're not going to carry bootlegs or Shamrock Shakes...that's cool...just give the consumer a heads-up.

PBM

Really? First off, questions are being asked of people who -- correct me if I am wrong -- probably aren't privvy to all information all the time and do not make decisions about when or when not to release the information they do have.

As for the consumer/business (fan/band) relationship, it is definitely a good idea to maintain a good rapport. Following your example, I love Micky D's McRibs and I would be sad if they never sold them again. If that happened, that would be a business decision to which I as a customer deserve no answer as to why (like with PJ bootlegs). If, say in October, my mouth started watering at the prospect of eating a McRib come December and I contacted McDonalds asking if they were going to have them that year, am I really entitled to an answer? No, its none of my business even if I've bought 1,000 McRibs every year since they have been offered.

People expect different things I guess and people get pissed off about different things, but for my part I look forward to whatever I might have available to me in the future whether it be McRibs or bootlegs or a damn southern tour.

I just don't feel entitled....plus, I've got other things to worry about in lieu McRibs

pjsteelerfan

Yellow Ledbelly wrote:

Really? First off, questions are being asked of people who -- correct me if I am wrong -- probably aren't privvy to all information all the time and do not make decisions about when or when not to release the information they do have.

As for the consumer/business (fan/band) relationship, it is definitely a good idea to maintain a good rapport. Following your example, I love Micky D's McRibs and I would be sad if they never sold them again. If that happened, that would be a business decision to which I as a customer deserve no answer as to why (like with PJ bootlegs). If, say in October, my mouth started watering at the prospect of eating a McRib come December and I contacted McDonalds asking if they were going to have them that year, am I really entitled to an answer? No, its none of my business even if I've bought 1,000 McRibs every year since they have been offered.

People expect different things I guess and people get pissed off about different things, but for my part I look forward to whatever I might have available to me in the future whether it be McRibs or bootlegs or a damn southern tour.

I just don't feel entitled....plus, I've got other things to worry about in lieu McRibs

On a side note, are you saying the McRib is comming back soon? I kind of like McDonalds new ripoff of the Chick-Fil-A sandwich.

ReeenkRoink

I am sure they dont want to say anything until they are sure of the info... Anyone remember Big Bold and Free?? When this is something to say they will say it.

Yellow Ledbelly

pjsteelerfan wrote:

On a side note, are you saying the McRib is comming back soon? I kind of like McDonalds new ripoff of the Chick-Fil-A sandwich.

GOD I WISH!!!

I think I will give them a call and demand some answers on that question....PRONTO!!!

PissBottleMan

Yellow Ledbelly wrote:

If, say in October, my mouth started watering at the prospect of eating a McRib come December and I contacted McDonalds asking if they were going to have them that year, am I really entitled to an answer?

As a consumer and a loyal customer, I'm pretty sure you would get a response. Thus, you are entitled to an answer because without the customer there wouldn't be billions and billions served. It a matter of maintaining good public relations.

PBM