people hate Foxy because of the message, yet everyone loves Jeremy. kind of ironic don't you think
I hate Foxy because it just doesn't sound good
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It's just a bonus track that was added at the last minute. Eddie opted to include it on all versions, rather than just the UK or Japan.
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Stupid Mop isn't even on my Ipod. The only song I don't have. It's just odd, listened to it once or twice if that.
I actually really like Aye Davanita and Hummus from Yield.
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I have always hoped for the beat of the song to enter into a live show, perhaps in a transition or sandwhich or something, but I doubt that'll ever happen...
As far as its inclusion in the album, I think it fits nicely and appropriately, though I don't listen to it much (especially when jamming in the car!). But the whole album has a sinister feeling to it, which is heightened throughout FoxyMop, and then cut out in an eerie ending. But, I have always equated the "song" with such things as track 69 on Tool's Undertow: no real meaning, just fucking around.
'Let the rabbits wear glasses.'
And Vitalogy isn't complete without Stupid Mop. Can't really call it a song, but that track puts you pretty close to what was going on in Eddie's head when he recorded that album. Kurt's death, the height of grunge, the band on the verge of breaking up, wearing halloween masks in public, fighting ticketmonster... It's a wonderfully dark album.
Why go, Animal? Foxy Mop in my tree, no way. Gods' Dice Get Right Come back amongst the waves yellow moon. https://www.instagram.com/knowcode/
What I like about the song is that the music embodies the fragmented and disturbing conversation. Like the musis is the girls mind; distorted, confused, fragmented... To me like all "fillers"" (I hate this word for I don't think they are fillers, just different forms of musical expression) they are musical statements tying the meaning of the album together... They are highly symbolic.
Has everyone seen the book Vitalogy from the 20's? It's dark, creeepy, and strange. I think this track compliments in that way. Vitalogy is the study of life and I think that's the point of this track...albeit dark, but about life...and death. It gets you thinking pretty deep...the intended purpose of the track.
The first couple times Iistened to "Vitalogy," FoxyMop terrified me. I avoided it from then on.
Years later, I got curious, and listened to it in headphones hell bent on making it through to the end. Since then, I love it. I'll sometimes listen to it in the dark, just to scare the shit out of myself. One of the things I like most about listening to it, is that to me, it FEELS like a secret. I don't know how to explain it any other way.
The movie "Session 9," about an abandoned asylum being explored by several guys hired to remove the asbestos, helped solidify my appreciation of the song. I'm fascinated by the workings of the mind, especially psychosis and insanity.
I think the song, in a small way, helps bring the stigma of mental illness, suicidal ideation, etc, into the discussion. Here we all are, 15 years after the release, talking about what it might mean or what it means to us individually.
Has everyone seen the book Vitalogy from the 20's? It's dark, creeepy, and strange. I think this track compliments in that way. Vitalogy is the study of life and I think that's the point of this track...albeit dark, but about life...and death. It gets you thinking pretty deep...the intended purpose of the track.
Agreed and the book was more than that; it also "told people how to live". This book is all about conformitism. (The chapter "self pollution" on page 18 always cracks me up; people really believed this!) The album is about non-conformitism; and StupidMop about insanity as defiance. Perfect ending to one of their darkest albums...
Vitalogy is my absolute favourite. In my opinion the top of their artistry. (With no disrespect for the other albums, for I believe that albums like Binaural are highly underestimated.)
In the aftermath of Kurt Cobain's death, Stupid Mop is far from simply "filler". To me it's the dark heart of Vitalogy. It's the aura of the whole record laid bare right at the end. Confused and confusing, frightened and frightening, disturbed and disturbing. And those 23 seconds of silence at the end are the more terrifying than anything that came before. It's what vitalogy is about and I don't think the album would be complete without it.
Oh, and blondieblue, I think that it has been played live, in a way. Here's the 2nd last "song" from one of the first shows after Vitalogy was released. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XP9TH9YQ.This, to me, was an attempt.
93: Slane
96: Cork, Dublin
00: Dublin
06: London, Dublin
07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
09: Manchester, London
10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
Oh, and blondieblue, I think that it has been played live, in a way. Here's the 2nd last "song" from one of the first shows after Vitalogy was released. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XP9TH9YQ.This, to me, was an attempt.
oh wow i didn't know that. thanks for sharing.
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I absolutely love it. Crank it up to 12 on the hi-fi....can't wait for Jeff's bass line to come through....and Jack's drumming...."She prides herself on her fingernails." Perfect Ending
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you guys are nutz :twisted:
how many of us PJchicks like that song?
I hate Foxy because it just doesn't sound good
I actually really like Aye Davanita and Hummus from Yield.
“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world.
'Let the rabbits wear glasses.'
And Vitalogy isn't complete without Stupid Mop. Can't really call it a song, but that track puts you pretty close to what was going on in Eddie's head when he recorded that album. Kurt's death, the height of grunge, the band on the verge of breaking up, wearing halloween masks in public, fighting ticketmonster... It's a wonderfully dark album.
Foxy Mop in my tree, no way.
Gods' Dice Get Right
Come back amongst the waves yellow moon.
https://www.instagram.com/knowcode/
This is my kind of love...
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Years later, I got curious, and listened to it in headphones hell bent on making it through to the end. Since then, I love it. I'll sometimes listen to it in the dark, just to scare the shit out of myself. One of the things I like most about listening to it, is that to me, it FEELS like a secret. I don't know how to explain it any other way.
The movie "Session 9," about an abandoned asylum being explored by several guys hired to remove the asbestos, helped solidify my appreciation of the song. I'm fascinated by the workings of the mind, especially psychosis and insanity.
I think the song, in a small way, helps bring the stigma of mental illness, suicidal ideation, etc, into the discussion. Here we all are, 15 years after the release, talking about what it might mean or what it means to us individually.
Agreed and the book was more than that; it also "told people how to live". This book is all about conformitism. (The chapter "self pollution" on page 18 always cracks me up; people really believed this!) The album is about non-conformitism; and StupidMop about insanity as defiance. Perfect ending to one of their darkest albums...
Vitalogy is my absolute favourite. In my opinion the top of their artistry. (With no disrespect for the other albums, for I believe that albums like Binaural are highly underestimated.)
Plankton, I love your nick. I just wanted to say that!
Oh, and blondieblue, I think that it has been played live, in a way. Here's the 2nd last "song" from one of the first shows after Vitalogy was released. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XP9TH9YQ.This, to me, was an attempt.
96: Cork, Dublin
00: Dublin
06: London, Dublin
07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
09: Manchester, London
10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
oh wow i didn't know that. thanks for sharing.