What the hell happened to Our Lady Peace?

thunderDAN

From Naveed-Spiritual Machines they were an awesome band. They fired Mike Turner and hired a new guitarist and Bob Rock to produce them and they haven't put out anything good since. Gravity was just alright, the one in 2005 was horrid, and after a 4 year hiatus they release another pile of crap. It really sucks because I think Raine is very talented, and I think Jeremy is a great drummer. I don't understand them. They started out as an alternative band with influences which would suggest that and they turned into Nickelback. I listened to Burn,Burn once and thought to myself 'it took 4 years to make this?' This sucks

BrainOfJHA

I don't know but they are playing the Vic in Chicago on Aug 22. so anybody that is gonna be in town for Pearl Jam might want to check it out...

ogre1213

they decided to take a new direction musically and artistically , you cant keep making the same album over and over, no band ever does that , every band changes, they change , people change

i love burn burn
i love healthy in paranoid times
i love gravity
and obviously their old shit is awesome

i saw them last night at irving plaza, great show
i saw them 2 times before that and they were just ok
but last night seemed like they were really into it
the only thing is they played for only an hour and half,
but i know every band cant be pj and play for 3 hrs

facepollution

thunderDAN wrote:

From Naveed-Spiritual Machines they were an awesome band. They fired Mike Turner and hired a new guitarist and Bob Rock to produce them and they haven't put out anything good since. Gravity was just alright, the one in 2005 was horrid, and after a 4 year hiatus they release another pile of crap. It really sucks because I think Raine is very talented, and I think Jeremy is a great drummer. I don't understand them. They started out as an alternative band with influences which would suggest that and they turned into Nickelback. I listened to Burn,Burn once and thought to myself 'it took 4 years to make this?' This sucks

I get what you are saying about the change in direction, but honestly do you think they sound ANYTHING like Nickelback, honestly, cause I don't hear it at all. I think they're more chasing the Coldplay/U2 crowd with the piano and jangly guitars.

I think it's a solid album, but it is not the return to the Naveed sound that Raine has talked about. What they really need is a decent producer.

ogre1213

just rock out bro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJV4pYml6Zw

over bends

Saw the band last night at Irving Plaza. One of the best shows of my life. Crowd was balls to the walls and the band sounded tight as a vag. I really like the new album a lot too. It's no Spiritual, but its the best since then.

over bends

ogre1213 wrote:

just rock out bro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJV4pYml6Zw

That's my video man!! WOOO! Thanks for watching.

thunderDAN

facepollution wrote:

thunderDAN wrote:

From Naveed-Spiritual Machines they were an awesome band. They fired Mike Turner and hired a new guitarist and Bob Rock to produce them and they haven't put out anything good since. Gravity was just alright, the one in 2005 was horrid, and after a 4 year hiatus they release another pile of crap. It really sucks because I think Raine is very talented, and I think Jeremy is a great drummer. I don't understand them. They started out as an alternative band with influences which would suggest that and they turned into Nickelback. I listened to Burn,Burn once and thought to myself 'it took 4 years to make this?' This sucks

I get what you are saying about the change in direction, but honestly do you think they sound ANYTHING like Nickelback, honestly, cause I don't hear it at all. I think they're more chasing the Coldplay/U2 crowd with the piano and jangly guitars.

I think it's a solid album, but it is not the return to the Naveed sound that Raine has talked about. What they really need is a decent producer.

Nickelback as in songs made for people to enjoy on the radio.

They were making albums that weren't all the same. Naveed sounds nothing like Happiness... they are both good. If anything, there last 3 all sound the same.

ogre1213

over bends wrote:

ogre1213 wrote:

just rock out bro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJV4pYml6Zw

That's my video man!! WOOO! Thanks for watching.

thanks for recording! good job!

great show!

thunderDAN

over bends wrote:

Saw the band last night at Irving Plaza. One of the best shows of my life. Crowd was balls to the walls and the band sounded tight as a vag. I really like the new album a lot too. It's no Spiritual, but its the best since then.

I'm a huge OLP, or was. Don't get me wrong, I used to love that band. I'm still going to see them in Cleveland in August. This will be the 12th time I have seen them. I've met them on several occasions and a friend of mine who is a local DJ here is personal friends with them. I have a personalized guitar hanging in my living room for crying out loud. I loved the band, I just hate what they have changed in to. I can't listen to Happiness.. or Spiritual Machines enough, they were stepping out of their shells and making music that fit them. They axed Lanni and Mike Tuner and it has never been the same. Bob Rock told them that Raine needed to tone down his vocals, and Jeremy needed to "cool it" on the drums- those were the 2 best things about the band. Listen to the Birdman, that is how Jeremy should play drums, that is how it's done. Listen to their cover of Teardrop and tell me that Raine needs to cool it on the vocals...it's bullshit. I don't get why they listen to that shit over and over when their last 2 albums were flops.

ogre1213

i still like their new shit tho

over bends

thunderDAN wrote:

over bends wrote:

Saw the band last night at Irving Plaza. One of the best shows of my life. Crowd was balls to the walls and the band sounded tight as a vag. I really like the new album a lot too. It's no Spiritual, but its the best since then.

I'm a huge OLP, or was. Don't get me wrong, I used to love that band. I'm still going to see them in Cleveland in August. This will be the 12th time I have seen them. I've met them on several occasions and a friend of mine who is a local DJ here is personal friends with them. I have a personalized guitar hanging in my living room for crying out loud. I loved the band, I just hate what they have changed in to. I can't listen to Happiness.. or Spiritual Machines enough, they were stepping out of their shells and making music that fit them. They axed Lanni and Mike Tuner and it has never been the same. Bob Rock told them that Raine needed to tone down his vocals, and Jeremy needed to "cool it" on the drums- those were the 2 best things about the band. Listen to the Birdman, that is how Jeremy should play drums, that is how it's done. Listen to their cover of Teardrop and tell me that Raine needs to cool it on the vocals...it's bullshit. I don't get why they listen to that shit over and over when their last 2 albums were flops.

I'm not saying you're wrong. Spiritual Machines is a top 5 album of all time for me. Wonderful Future being top 10 song ever written probably, but you can't really expect things to be at the level with every release. Obviously they've shifted to a more "mainstream" sound, but I still thoroughly enjoy it. From the new album, Monkey Brains and Paper Moon in particular are fantastic songs. I'm of the opinion that Raine has a great voice no matter what he does and that Teardrop into Carnival is an unfuckingbelievable performance. He's one of those singers whose tone I simply love.

I don't know if you're hating on Steve as well, but he is a great guitarist nonetheless. Mike fit the band perfectly, but if they needed to part ways Steve is an excellent replacement. It's just that I feel the band never turned him loose until some parts of Burn Burn. His Paper Moon solo is some of his best work. And I also feel like the band really tried with this album as far as not giving us Gravity part 2 and this feels like a very honest effort as opposed to Gravity and more or less Healthy. You don't have to like Burn Burn, but I think it's unfair to call it nothing more than a continuation of what they've been doing most of this decade.

Also... mind giving me that personalized guitar? If not, I'll settle for pics of it! I'm sure it looks great.

thunderDAN

over bends wrote:

thunderDAN wrote:

over bends wrote:

Saw the band last night at Irving Plaza. One of the best shows of my life. Crowd was balls to the walls and the band sounded tight as a vag. I really like the new album a lot too. It's no Spiritual, but its the best since then.

I'm a huge OLP, or was. Don't get me wrong, I used to love that band. I'm still going to see them in Cleveland in August. This will be the 12th time I have seen them. I've met them on several occasions and a friend of mine who is a local DJ here is personal friends with them. I have a personalized guitar hanging in my living room for crying out loud. I loved the band, I just hate what they have changed in to. I can't listen to Happiness.. or Spiritual Machines enough, they were stepping out of their shells and making music that fit them. They axed Lanni and Mike Tuner and it has never been the same. Bob Rock told them that Raine needed to tone down his vocals, and Jeremy needed to "cool it" on the drums- those were the 2 best things about the band. Listen to the Birdman, that is how Jeremy should play drums, that is how it's done. Listen to their cover of Teardrop and tell me that Raine needs to cool it on the vocals...it's bullshit. I don't get why they listen to that shit over and over when their last 2 albums were flops.

I'm not saying you're wrong. Spiritual Machines is a top 5 album of all time for me. Wonderful Future being top 10 song ever written probably, but you can't really expect things to be at the level with every release. Obviously they've shifted to a more "mainstream" sound, but I still thoroughly enjoy it. From the new album, Monkey Brains and Paper Moon in particular are fantastic songs. I'm of the opinion that Raine has a great voice no matter what he does and that Teardrop into Carnival is an unfuckingbelievable performance. He's one of those singers whose tone I simply love.

I don't know if you're hating on Steve as well, but he is a great guitarist nonetheless. Mike fit the band perfectly, but if they needed to part ways Steve is an excellent replacement. It's just that I feel the band never turned him loose until some parts of Burn Burn. His Paper Moon solo is some of his best work. And I also feel like the band really tried with this album as far as not giving us Gravity part 2 and this feels like a very honest effort as opposed to Gravity and more or less Healthy. You don't have to like Burn Burn, but I think it's unfair to call it nothing more than a continuation of what they've been doing most of this decade.

Also... mind giving me that personalized guitar? If not, I'll settle for pics of it! I'm sure it looks great.

The Wonderful Future is my favorite song of theirs. It's awesome and I've even been lucky enough to see it played live.

I'll give Burn Burn another listen before I burn burn it (j/k I had to). I was just expecting something so much different. Like even with the Live CD, It's horrible to listen to because it sounds like a band who is playing for making a live cd. It sounds nothing like them when they actually play a crowd. Know what I'm saying? I guess I'm just used to my two favorite band doing everything right (Pearl Jam and Radiohead) that it pisses me off when I don't dig things one of my favorites for so long has been doing.

I'll post pictures of that axe sometime, it's pretty cool. I wish I had Mike to sign it and not Steve. I don't dislike steve as I have met him and he is probably the nicest person you could ever meet, I just really loved the bands direction and sound before he came in the band

dcfaithful

ogre1213 wrote:

but i know every band cant be pj and play for 3 hrs

No but they should.

dcfaithful

over bends wrote:

Saw the band last night at Irving Plaza. One of the best shows of my life. Crowd was balls to the walls and the band sounded tight as a vag. I really like the new album a lot too. It's no Spiritual, but its the best since then.

Tight as a vag??? .......

allmyrivals

Anyone wondering what Mike Turner is up to ......Check out Crash Karma. They just released their first album. It's kind of a Canadian supergroup. It has Mike turner, Jeff Burrows (Drums.ex Tea Party) and Edwin (original singer from I Mother Earth)
Musics not bad......You can really hear Turners guitar work all over the songs.....it's that old OLP sound alive again.


http://www.myspace.com/crashkarma




AMR

Music For Rhinos

I agree with the original poster.

Our Lady Peace kinda sucks now. I saw them on July 11 at Bayfest, they opened for STP. The set pretty much sucked, they have so many good songs that they could have played and they only played about 2-3 good ones. I stood there relatively motionless and very bored for the majority of their set.

It's a shame because Naveed, Clumsy, Happiness and even Spiritual Machines are all great records. Gravity absolutely sucks, that was the beginning of the end of them for me. I can't say I've really listened to Healthy in Paranoid Times or Burn Burn but they've just lost me.

jambayleaf

Loved Naveed. Clumsy was VERY weak I thought. Way too poppy, then I heard the next released song off the third album, can't remember the name, and that was it. Not sure how they decided to be horrible. I saw them open for Van Halen in the 90's. That's right, Van Halen, in Minneapolis. I thought, man they ruled. They talked about smoking weed alot. I remember that. I think Starseed the singer said was about smoking the biggest bag of weed. I remember that vividly. But yeah, my left nut rocks harder now.

NWOntario

I used to love Our Lady Peace so, so much, but I am not down with their new direction; to me it sounds calculated, which is another way of saying (as nicely as possible about a band that once shaped me as a music fan) that I think they sold out. It's hard for me to write that, since at one point I'd have ranked them just behind Pearl Jam and the Who as my favourite band in the world...but they don't do it for me anymore. At all. (I haven't heard Burn Burn yet; otherwise, apart from "Angels/Losing/Sleep" and "Bring Back the Sun" I haven't liked a single thing they've done since Mike Turner left--and Turner appears on "Bring Back the Sun"!)

This thread made me listen to Happiness...Is Not a Fish That You Can Catch. You used to be so good, Our Lady Peace. What the hell happened, indeed.

gibbits

Everything after spiritual machines is bunk, they ditched their alternative/post grunge flavour to sound more like U2, like the world needs more of that. Those first 4 albums though are all among my favourite works.