Cyber bullying

TriumphantAngel

Just finished reading a story about a young girl (14), who took her own life a couple of days ago, allegedly as a result of being subjected to cyber bullying.

Even more disturbing, is the fact that she was the fourth person at her high school, to take her own life in the past six months.

I mean people like to shoot the shit here, and just suck it up when someone is an asshole, because most of us are probably old enough and mature enough to handle it, but i can't imagine what it must be like to be 14 and be subjected to what she must have gone through. It's heartbreaking.

I will never encourage any children i may have, to join facebook, twitter, myspace and shit like that. Pick up the phone, ring your friends, have them over, go to the movies, play sport, live life, be a kid for gods sake.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/ ... 22,00.html

soulsinging

The worst story I heard was a PARENT that made a fake myspace page to mess with some girl her daughter had a grudge against... she pretended to be a cute guy and then tormented this girl and ridiculed her until she killed herself. All via internet. A PARENT. How pathetic do you have to be?

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4861399&page=1

norm

“The first thing the policeman said to me was ‘They’re getting bullied and have problems at school and then they come home and they get on the internet and it’s continuous and there’s no break for them’.”


i never thought of it that way...pretty fucked up


i was bullied when i was a kid...most kids are....but i never let it get to me...it's weird...i was never told by my parents to ignore it i just did...a bully only wants attention and if you react to their taunts it gives them satisfaction and allows them to do further damage...for whatever reason i knew this as a kid and never forgot it...lucky i guess

in some ways technology has made things worse in society....being at home with your family used to be a safe haven from the bullies...now they follow you wherever you go :(

WaveCameCrashin

And to make matters worse the case was thrown out of court. So IMO this woman was responsible for this girls death. And now she's sitting on her ass watching The VIEW every morning like nothing ever happened. :x

TriumphantAngel

soulsinging wrote:

The worst story I heard was a PARENT that made a fake myspace page to mess with some girl her daughter had a grudge against... she pretended to be a cute guy and then tormented this girl and ridiculed her until she killed herself. All via internet. A PARENT. How pathetic do you have to be?

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4861399&page=1

I remember that SS, that is just unbelievable that someone could do that :(

DriftingByTheStorm

we need to either shut down the internet,
or TAX IT HEAVILY!

I can see no other options here.
Besides, the internet is REALLY BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT!

REALLY BAD!

Massive Computer Centers Bad for the Environment

TriumphantAngel

norm wrote:

“The first thing the policeman said to me was ‘They’re getting bullied and have problems at school and then they come home and they get on the internet and it’s continuous and there’s no break for them’.”


i never thought of it that way...pretty fucked up


i was bullied when i was a kid...most kids are....but i never let it get to me...it's weird...i was never told by my parents to ignore it i just did...a bully only wants attention and if you react to their taunts it gives them satisfaction and allows them to do further damage...for whatever reason i knew this as a kid and never forgot it...lucky i guess

in some ways technology has made things worse in society....being at home with your family used to be a safe haven from the bullies...now they follow you wherever you go :(

that's so true. sorry that happened to you norm. it's good that you were able to cope with it and came through ok.

norm

TriumphantAngel wrote:

norm wrote:

“The first thing the policeman said to me was ‘They’re getting bullied and have problems at school and then they come home and they get on the internet and it’s continuous and there’s no break for them’.”


i never thought of it that way...pretty fucked up


i was bullied when i was a kid...most kids are....but i never let it get to me...it's weird...i was never told by my parents to ignore it i just did...a bully only wants attention and if you react to their taunts it gives them satisfaction and allows them to do further damage...for whatever reason i knew this as a kid and never forgot it...lucky i guess

in some ways technology has made things worse in society....being at home with your family used to be a safe haven from the bullies...now they follow you wherever you go :(

that's so true. sorry that happened to you norm. it's good that you were able to cope with it and came through ok.

oh it wasn't bad...nothing more than any kid experiences....but i just didn't let it get to me....and we're talking about the 70's....the bullies were mean but nothing of the extreme there are today

TriumphantAngel

soulsinging wrote:

The worst story I heard was a PARENT that made a fake myspace page to mess with some girl her daughter had a grudge against... she pretended to be a cute guy and then tormented this girl and ridiculed her until she killed herself. All via internet. A PARENT. How pathetic do you have to be?

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4861399&page=1

SS, i know you're a lawyer, so how do you see that she was not able to be charged with her actions that ultimately led to the girls death?

Thank you..

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/lori-d ... -d6s0.html

soulsinging

TriumphantAngel wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

The worst story I heard was a PARENT that made a fake myspace page to mess with some girl her daughter had a grudge against... she pretended to be a cute guy and then tormented this girl and ridiculed her until she killed herself. All via internet. A PARENT. How pathetic do you have to be?

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4861399&page=1

SS, i know you're a lawyer, so how do you see that she was not able to be charged with her actions that ultimately led to the girls death?

Thank you..

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/lori-d ... -d6s0.html

There's just not really a crime to charge her with. You can't go to jail for teasing or emotional abuse. Especially not in a situation like this. That's why they went with this weak computer crime, which is directed more towards hackers than anything else. It was the best they could do. Fraud demands some sort of financial stake. There might be a few misdemeanors, depending on the laws of Missouri... some sort of impersonation perhaps, but it probably wouldn't land her in jail. It's tough to hold somebody guilty of murder unless they really directly caused the death somehow. She didn't.

She's going to get sued in civil court for money I'm sure, and she will undoubtedly lose there and be bankrupted. But there's not a crime with jailtime here really.

Though I just read this at the bottom:

"Jurors decided Drew was not guilty of the more serious felonies of intentionally causing emotional harm while accessing computers without authorisation. The jury could not reach a unanimous verdict on a felony conspiracy charge."

I've never heard of that, but I have no idea why a jury wouldn't convict her of that.

norm

soulsinging wrote:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

The worst story I heard was a PARENT that made a fake myspace page to mess with some girl her daughter had a grudge against... she pretended to be a cute guy and then tormented this girl and ridiculed her until she killed herself. All via internet. A PARENT. How pathetic do you have to be?

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4861399&page=1

SS, i know you're a lawyer, so how do you see that she was not able to be charged with her actions that ultimately led to the girls death?

Thank you..

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/lori-d ... -d6s0.html

There's just not really a crime to charge her with. You can't go to jail for teasing or emotional abuse. Especially not in a situation like this. That's why they went with this weak computer crime, which is directed more towards hackers than anything else. It was the best they could do. Fraud demands some sort of financial stake. There might be a few misdemeanors, depending on the laws of Missouri... some sort of impersonation perhaps, but it probably wouldn't land her in jail. It's tough to hold somebody guilty of murder unless they really directly caused the death somehow. She didn't.

She's going to get sued in civil court for money I'm sure, and she will undoubtedly lose there and be bankrupted. But there's not a crime with jailtime here really.

yeah that's my understanding...and i've watched a lot of law tv shows

seriously though, what kind of person, let alone parent, does this kind of thing?

tybird

Seriously, the internet is for PORN. :twisted:

TriumphantAngel

soulsinging wrote:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

The worst story I heard was a PARENT that made a fake myspace page to mess with some girl her daughter had a grudge against... she pretended to be a cute guy and then tormented this girl and ridiculed her until she killed herself. All via internet. A PARENT. How pathetic do you have to be?

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4861399&page=1

SS, i know you're a lawyer, so how do you see that she was not able to be charged with her actions that ultimately led to the girls death?

Thank you..

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/lori-d ... -d6s0.html

There's just not really a crime to charge her with. You can't go to jail for teasing or emotional abuse. Especially not in a situation like this. That's why they went with this weak computer crime, which is directed more towards hackers than anything else. It was the best they could do. Fraud demands some sort of financial stake. There might be a few misdemeanors, depending on the laws of Missouri... some sort of impersonation perhaps, but it probably wouldn't land her in jail. It's tough to hold somebody guilty of murder unless they really directly caused the death somehow. She didn't.

She's going to get sued in civil court for money I'm sure, and she will undoubtedly lose there and be bankrupted. But there's not a crime with jailtime here really.

Though I just read this at the bottom:

"Jurors decided Drew was not guilty of the more serious felonies of intentionally causing emotional harm while accessing computers without authorisation. The jury could not reach a unanimous verdict on a felony conspiracy charge."

I've never heard of that, but I have no idea why a jury wouldn't convict her of that.

Thanks SS. That makes sense when you explain it like that. What an evil woman. She will have to live with her actions for the rest of her life. It's so sad that anyone, let alone a mother, could do something like that.

iluvcats

I won't say what popular website it is, but my nephew was mocked online. there was a hateful site made up (with his real name and pic used w/o his permission) with disgusting obscenities making fun of him and the sport he excels at. the problem is, he puts too much of his business out there, has been for about 3 years....
so this jealous person made up a hate group with 30 members but called used the category of "spiritual group."
I reported the site, said I was his Aunt , that the language was foul and told his age. It was removed within a week.

JOEJOEJOE

I was bullied by a few people when I was younger....by weird coincidence, 3 of them died young (cancer, heroin OD and car accident). Two of the 3 ended up in jail for drug offenses.

JOEJOEJOE

tybird wrote:

Seriously, the internet is for PORN. :twisted:

Any sort of technical advancement is always initially utilized by the porn industry!

Evil Merlin Part Deux

norm wrote:

“The first thing the policeman said to me was ‘They’re getting bullied and have problems at school and then they come home and they get on the internet and it’s continuous and there’s no break for them’.”


i never thought of it that way...pretty fucked up


i was bullied when i was a kid...most kids are....but i never let it get to me...it's weird...i was never told by my parents to ignore it i just did...a bully only wants attention and if you react to their taunts it gives them satisfaction and allows them to do further damage...for whatever reason i knew this as a kid and never forgot it...lucky i guess

in some ways technology has made things worse in society....being at home with your family used to be a safe haven from the bullies...now they follow you wherever you go :(

You're right about making things worse in society in ways.

It's as if the internet has helped desensitize this generation of teens at a younger age...yet at the same time made them social retards. It's a bully's heaven. Say what you want, run home, hide behind the monitor. There's absolutely no breaks from it anymore. There's no more 'enough is enough' and having a school yard fight to settle it out when something went too far, or letting a teacher, adult, or parent set everyone down and let them know their consequences. That means nothing anymore. You're never truly gone.

If you're a bully, you've become desensitized to the way life is these days and the harsh aspects of it and use it against the others.

If you're bullied, you never really do get a chance to think about your reactions, or really truly react in a social setting as you're being bullied 24/7.

It's a pretty odd state for them all.

Most kids I knew and grew up with all were bullied and did some bullying and then there was the few assholes, and the few spineless. It was apart of growing up. Nothing major. That whole social experiment of growing up with a community and learning to mend it has seemingly gone out the window in many cases.

ajedigecko

i will kick your ass..........................................i mean i will kick your computer.

g under p

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

I was bullied by a few people when I was younger....by weird coincidence, 3 of them died young (cancer, heroin OD and car accident). Two of the 3 ended up in jail for drug offenses.

Cyber bulling I think can be dealt with proper supervision by parents however bullying at school a is another matter entirely. I was bullied in junior high and I dealt with it in my own way after a year of this misery. The following year being a year younger I picked out the weakest bully amongst this clan beat the living daylights out of him. They never messed with me after that again and in fact wanted me to join up with the group.

I gladly chose to hang with another group of friends. The teens today face another whole new realm of the bullies that rome our schools, I don't know if what I back then did would've worked today.

Peace

dunkman

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

we need to either shut down the internet,
or TAX IT HEAVILY!

I can see no other options here.
Besides, the internet is REALLY BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT!

REALLY BAD!

Massive Computer Centers Bad for the Environment

where would you then find pictures of company logos that are circular?

heidihi

This was all over the news in Australia... which lead me to discussing this cyber bullying stuff with my 12 year old. She kindly told me that it is only forum for cowards that do not have courage to face you head on. I was suprised and happy with her response. Her friends had already discussed it and this was their opinion.....shows that kids do take stuff in and can talk about more than bloody Twilight.

As a parent (and a high school teacher) it scares the shit out of me but we need to keep the internet in places where we can see it and be aware of what is going on. Technology is a part of their world and it will not go away so it is up to us as the adults to keep them safe. :? Also we need to kick them off it and send them outside to hang out with real humans.