So is everyone expecting a happy go lucky Ed with Bush gone?
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I know he is not that naive.
are you?
not me!.........I see right through Obama's lying ass...which isn't really hard at all!
but i am curious to hear what Ed will have to say on this coming tour...or if he will be silent (politically)
are you?
not me!.........I see right through Obama's lying ass...which isn't really hard at all!
but i am curious to hear what Ed will have to say on this coming tour...or if he will be silent (politically)
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Whats he lying about?
I know that even if he is lying, its not to start a war in which thousands of Americans will lose thier lives.
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I would love to know what he's lying about as well. That being said this isn't place for a political debate.
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Really...give the man (Obama) a year...I don't know where people are getting happy go lucky...has anyone, besides myself, listened to the lyrics to these new songs? They may be irrelevant at this moment...but not too long ago things weren't so happy... I don't know maybe it's just my perception...but I have been so wrong about Ed before so...what ever
edit: I was referring to Unthought Known, Speed of Sound, The End, Got Some...The Fixer is a little more hopeful I suppose...but again...I am often wrong...
I'll find us a way to make light
I'll dig your grave
We'll dance and sing
What's saved could be
One last lifetime
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Obama's pledge to restrict former lobbyists from serving in his administration
"During 2009 and 2010, existing businesses will receive a $3,000 refundable tax credit for each additional full-time employee hired." ---was not in the "stimulous" bill
it took pretty much 8 years to break it. Its gonna take more than 5-6 months to fix.
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I don't recall him ever being strongly anti-democrat so much as he was (like many) disillusioned with them and thus supporting the green party. He spoke out in defense of Clinton on the 98 tour. It would seem that he (again, like many) saw that there was more danger in having a nutter like Dub in office than there was in having a less than ideal dem in office is all. Other than supporting Obama's candidacy for president, what cheerleading has he done for the democrats?
In any event, the single certainly sounds a lot more upbeat than anything they've done in a while, and both songs I've heard don't seem as overtly political as the stuff on the last two albums, so we may have an album that's a bit more happy go lucky than usual ahead of us.
I know. He kinda threw a grenade in the room and ran.
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I too think he's smarter than that- it doesn't matter republican democrat they are all the same
and our President is a puppet but this wouldn't be the forum for that
I haven't read the new lyrics but i had imagined more family man/ fatherhood might be around this bend
I was looking forward to that
I do think the music he writes when he's angry though is not as poppy and more driving, which I like better.
I'm not antagonizing anyone...i asked a simple question.
what lies?!!! are you people serious or what? I'd get karpaltunnel listing all of them!
just google "Obama lies" and you'll get plenty of returns for that flip flopping fuck!
that "stimulus" ripoff he pulled on us condemning us & our children to debt & future poverty to bail out his wall street banker buddies who were responsible for the mess to begin with was really great!!!! :roll: giving more power to the federal reserve which is digging a hole for us that we won't be able to climb out of was great too! :roll: resigning the Patriot act after he said we wouldn't was great! :roll:
and he IS sending more troops to their deaths, so i don't know what the fuck that person is talking about!
yeah...i don't need to give him a year! he's a fucking sellout dirt bag politician..they say one thing and do another...i can't believe people still swallow their fake ass, theater bullshit!!
some of you people need to spend some time reading other shit besides the 10c message board!!
.....and fuck the moving train...I'm sure Kat will move this shit there anyway...I wouldn't want to bother anyone on the Porch with such important matters.
Kerry was such a lame duck candidate. Getting his photo taken hunting, telling everyone that would listen that he was pro gun ownership. Not taking Bush to task over his military record when G W attacked his own service record. He seemed to spend alot of time pandering to the right and defending himself rather than attacking G W's policies and his first 4 years in office.
By "bailing out his banker buddies" are you talking about TARP? I'm pretty sure that wasn't part of the stimulus. In fact, I'm pretty sure that came from the previous administration. Gripe about the stimulus all you want. I think it will work. I think it will create jobs and move the US towards progressive ways of producing our own energy through the green jobs it creates.
Signing the Patriot Act did suck though...I'll give you that
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Ed and the band have always been outspoken on things they supported. They spoke out against Clintons bombing of Kosovo. And spoke out against the war in Iraq. Avocado wasnt an AntiBush record, even though people made it out to be. The president is mentioned in one song. But thats it. The album is more about what it felt like to be American in 2006. Bush was only one part of that.
Got Some is an attack on Obama. Bush is gone. The only person who is at the head of the war machine, besides the dems and republicans in the house and senate, is Obama. When Ed says are you getting out, have you ever heard of diplomatic resolve, I doubt he is talking about Bush. Its clearly obama.
I hope that in the future Ed and the guys, continue to speak out, no matter who is in office.
Because despite Obama being in office, soldiers are still dying. Just like when Bush held office. Bush can be blamed for some things and should be. But at a certain point, it gets old. Also sharing blame are the countless Dems in the senate and house, who voted in lock step with Bush on virtually everything he did, whether thats the patriot act, or the war, or wiretapping, or torture. No one thought Bush was about the people. Thats what makes the Pelousy's and Reids of the world so evil. They pretend to be "the opposition" and are really just wolves in sheeps clothing. How is Pelousy knowing about torture and saying "they should be doing more" in terms of torture, and then keeping her mouth shut for years, any different than Bush authorizing torture. It isnt
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yes, it was done a month or 2 before the election so that 1 was all Bush and Sec Paulson
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when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
no, why would anyone expect that?
ed at the very least has always appeared to be one to hold our elected officials up to their accountability. i am sure ed views obama in the same light....accountable. if ed grows unhappy with this administration, i am sure we'll hear from him....along with a great # of us who were/are obama supporters. right now, i honestly don't expect too much comment. it's still early, lots in the works...but yea, i do believe ed is hopeful.
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It had both Obama and McCain's vote in the Senate as well.
Guess I'm different. I actually got a high off of the moody lyrics - whether politically inspired or not - because it made me feel so fucking good that Ed/the band/whomever wrote the words felt the same way I did. AND, that the personal frustration I was feeling was being given an outlet through rockin ass music.
I'm not getting the same type of feeling from The Fixer, but that might change as soon as I'm able to hear it LIVE.
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