WEAKEST PEARL JAM ALBUM...choices

crazygeocrazygeo Posts: 2,380
edited July 2009 in The Porch
I know this will be a very tuff vote and a wide range of answers..the choices for me would be between

1. Binaural
2. Riot Act....cropduster is lacking

Therefore: Riot Act
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  • crazygeocrazygeo Posts: 2,380
    Crapduster as I call it.... : :shock:
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    • 2003-07-05• 2004-10-01
    • 2005-10-03• 2006-05-27
    • 2008-06-19• 2009-10-27 2009-10-28 •2009-10-30
    • 2009-10-31

    *Tres Mts 2011-03-23
    *Eddie Vedder 2011-06-25
    - 2013-10-21
    - 2013=10-22
    -2016 -04-28
    -2016 -04-29
  • Eh...that's so tough to say. Honestly, it may be Avocado, and I still like that album.

    And you really don't like Cropduster? I love it, one of the highlights on RA for me.
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  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    why does everyone hate those albums they are so good i've been listening to riot act all day
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  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    why does everyone hate those albums they are so good i've been listening to riot act all day

    Cause fans wanna hold onto the ten/vs days. That's why everyone likes the self titled so much. its a return to old pearl jam.
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  • Binaural and Riot Act are probably the strongest albums the band has released.

    Also up there is Vs, what a solid record, and Vitalogy and No Code.

    Then Yield...

    Avocado and Ten are probably at the bottom of the pile for me.

    That being said, I like all 8 records.
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    crazygeo wrote:
    I know this will be a very tuff vote and a wide range of answers..the choices for me would be between

    1. Binaural
    2. Riot Act....cropduster is lacking

    Therefore: Riot Act

    ahahaha

    are you actually serious?
  • Binaural and Riot Act are probably the strongest albums the band has released.


    I dont know about that but they are solid albums. Binaural especially, also Riot Act has All or None which is an amazing song.

    Also I like Cropduster, its one of my favs on Riot Act.
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  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    why does everyone hate those albums they are so good i've been listening to riot act all day

    Indeed, they rock!
  • Binaural and Riot Act are probably the strongest albums the band has released.


    I dont know about that but they are solid albums. Binaural especially, also Riot Act has All or None which is an amazing song.

    Also I like Cropduster, its one of my favs on Riot Act.


    They are brilliant, dynamic albums with deep songs, mature lyrics and great musicianship. Much more depth than albums like Avocado.
  • Stephen FlowStephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    Binaural and Riot Act are probably the strongest albums the band has released.

    Also up there is Vs, what a solid record, and Vitalogy and No Code.

    Then Yield...

    Avocado and Ten are probably at the bottom of the pile for me.

    That being said, I like all 8 records.

    I completely agree with this.
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,303
    Binaural is actually one of my favorites. Def. top 3.


    If I had to pick, I would say Riot Act. I like the album too.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    I BrisK I wrote:
    crazygeo wrote:
    I know this will be a very tuff vote and a wide range of answers..the choices for me would be between

    1. Binaural
    2. Riot Act....cropduster is lacking

    Therefore: Riot Act

    ahahaha

    are you actually serious?
    +1 really,,u just open this post just for fun???u have time to spent till your train arrives?? :o
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    I BrisK I wrote:
    why does everyone hate those albums they are so good i've been listening to riot act all day

    Indeed, they rock!
    no no no,,,,,they FUCKIN Rock!!!!!!!!!!!! 8-)
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  • Binaural and Riot Act are probably the strongest albums the band has released.

    Also up there is Vs, what a solid record, and Vitalogy and No Code.

    Then Yield...

    Avocado and Ten are probably at the bottom of the pile for me.

    That being said, I like all 8 records.

    I can not do anything but agree - Avocado being by far the weakest, just serves clichés. And the songwriting is partially just boring. But - Vitalogy for whatever reason stays my favorite, though not their strongest...
  • SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,396
    metsfan wrote:
    why does everyone hate those albums they are so good i've been listening to riot act all day

    Cause fans wanna hold onto the ten/vs days. That's why everyone likes the self titled so much. its a return to old pearl jam.

    That and Riot Act just isn't that great of an album. I still listen to all the other albums but that one, including Binaural
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    crazygeo wrote:
    I know this will be a very tuff vote and a wide range of answers..the choices for me would be between

    1. Binaural
    2. Riot Act....cropduster is lacking

    Therefore: Riot Act

    both of those albums are better than the last one
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  • Those are great albums. Backspacer is looking to be their weakest.... but looks can be deceiving.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    Those are great albums. Backspacer is looking to be their weakest.... but looks can be deceiving.

    I disagree. All we've heard is Got Some and that has a lot of potential.
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  • It looks the majority would either say Riot Act or the Avocado album. I've read some threads that blast Riot Act...I can understand it a little bit, but c'mon! It's a really good album (Avocado too!) Put those albums up against any other band's albums and you'll see how good they are. The problem is everyone compares them to Ten, Vs, Vitalogy, No Code, Yield, and even Binaural. Of course they'll sound a bit weak then. Pearl Jam set the bar so high with those albums..they're not just the band's best albums...they're some of the best albums period! If Pearl Jam taught us anything...experiment, take a risk, have some fun! Getting to Riot Act, I'm not a big fan of Save You, Help Help, and Bushleaguer. But the b-sides of that album are unreal. Make your own Riot Act or any of their albums you feel weak. Burn it to a disc, your ipod, zune, whatever! Just the track order of an album can change the feeling and flow (that's why the setlists are so important, right?) Here's how I hear Riot Act (and it's not that weak): Side 1: Love Boat Captain, Green Disease, Ghost, Down, I am Mine, All or None, You Are Side 2: Arc, Cropduster, Undone, 1/2 Full, Get Right, Can't Keep, Other Side, Thumbing My Way. Sorry, I didn't mean to go off! Toast to Backspacer!
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    metsfan wrote:
    why does everyone hate those albums they are so good i've been listening to riot act all day

    Cause fans wanna hold onto the ten/vs days. That's why everyone likes the self titled so much. its a return to old pearl jam.

    I don't know if that's true. My fav albums are No Code and Vitalogy, but I think Riot Act sucks and I don't much care for avocado. It's got nothing to do with holding onto Ten or Vs (though they are great albums). It's got to do with a significant drop in song quality. Hell, the band has practically flat out admitted that they were shelving their best songs for years after Ed had a few crazy stalker incidents because they wanted to turn people off and defuse some of the hype around them.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    It looks the majority would either say Riot Act or the Avocado album. I've read some threads that blast Riot Act...I can understand it a little bit, but c'mon! It's a really good album (Avocado too!) Put those albums up against any other band's albums and you'll see how good they are. The problem is everyone compares them to Ten, Vs, Vitalogy, No Code, Yield, and even Binaural. Of course they'll sound a bit weak then. Pearl Jam set the bar so high with those albums..they're not just the band's best albums...they're some of the best albums period! If Pearl Jam taught us anything...experiment, take a risk, have some fun! Getting to Riot Act, I'm not a big fan of Save You, Help Help, and Bushleaguer. But the b-sides of that album are unreal. Make your own Riot Act or any of their albums you feel weak. Burn it to a disc, your ipod, zune, whatever! Just the track order of an album can change the feeling and flow (that's why the setlists are so important, right?) Here's how I hear Riot Act (and it's not that weak): Side 1: Love Boat Captain, Green Disease, Ghost, Down, I am Mine, All or None, You Are Side 2: Arc, Cropduster, Undone, 1/2 Full, Get Right, Can't Keep, Other Side, Thumbing My Way. Sorry, I didn't mean to go off! Toast to Backspacer!

    Not really. I compare RA and s/t to other bands' albums and most of the other bands are far superior. Those albums aren't just weak PJ albums, they're weak albums period and plenty of bands are doing better stuff, even their peers.

    And I've actually done what you suggested... I went through avocado and RA and compiled b-sides and everything else and whittled it down to one-50 minute cd that sounded great. But that means that over the course of 2 albums plus b-sides, they released basically one album's worth of good material. If you go by time, since Binaural, they've basically put out 15 good songs in almost 10 years. That's weak.
  • Soulsinging, I'm not disagreeing with you that they are the weaker of the albums...but they're still good! At least they're still cranking out the tunes after nearly 20 years. A lot of bands haven't...even great ones for that matter. Plus, they must not be that weak if you're checking out the forums.
  • StrykerStryker Upstate, NY Posts: 585
    1. Yield
    2. Avocado
    3. Vs.
    4. Ten
    5. No code
    6. Binaural
    7. Vitalogy
    8. Riot Act

    That list is misleading, though. I absolutely love 1-7. But if a gun was to my head, that's how I'd pick. Riot Act, however, is another story altogether. It's not a bad album by any means, but I feel it just lacks something. Passion, maybe? I don't know. I just doesn't give me the goosebumps like the other albums do.
  • 'Poor' Pearl Jam is still good for any other band.

    That said, I listen to the last album the least. I agree with a previous comment that it serves up cliches.

    Also, No Code doesn't get much rotation but when it does I enjoy most of it.

    I think Backspacer is going to be HUGE, what little we have heard is clean, modern and rockin.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    I've never really liked Vitalogy.. It's got some awesome songs, but easily my least played album.
  • AVOCADO by far. It's a snooze-fest.

    ...and Cropduster is easily one of the best songs on Riot Act. Don't be retarded.
  • I honestly have no idea why we rank the albums.

    It isn't a competition. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. Enjoy them for what they are, not for what you aspire them to be.
  • donravendonraven Posts: 144
    I don't understand all the hate for Avacado its easily one of their best from start to finish, musically and lyrically. I never skip a song on that one.

    Binaural has some of the best lyrics written by the band but the music isn't their best or most exciting. I do find myself skipping quite a few songs on that one. So I would have to say Binaural is their weakest (had they actually put the couple of superior B-sides on that record it would have ranked among their best).
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  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,633
    OK, I'm going to say it...

    Vs

    Sorry, but it's by far my least-played PJ record. It's not a bad album by any means and I do love it but I just played it to death when it came out and I prefer the others. I only listen to Vs songs now if they happen to come on when my ipod is on random.

    Ranks 2-6 are interchangeable but today I would probably rate them:

    1 Yield
    2 Ten
    3 Vitalogy
    4 Pearl Jam
    5 Riot Act
    6 No Code
    7 Binaural
    8 Vs
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  • Riot Act/No Code/Avocado

    all towards the bottom for me
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