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Will Eddies voice be strained on Backspacer?

Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,867
edited July 2009 in The Porch
You think it will be as strained and struggling on Backspacer as on S/T (and the live renditions of those songs) or will Eddie have returned to his former self? :)
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  • Much More Than ThisMuch More Than This Brooklyn, NY Posts: 765
    Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
    You think it will be as strained and struggling on Backspacer as on S/T (and the live renditions of those songs) or will Eddie have returned to his former self? :)
    The question crossed my mind as well. It may be time for him to cut back from two-plus bottles of red to a meager 750 milliliters. Then again, maybe not.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Much More Than This wrote:
    Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
    You think it will be as strained and struggling on Backspacer as on S/T (and the live renditions of those songs) or will Eddie have returned to his former self? :)
    The question crossed my mind as well. It may be time for him to cut back from two-plus bottles of red to a meager 750 milliliters. Then again, maybe not.
    It may have more to do with cigarettes.

    From the Fixer clip, sounds like Obrien was using a few tricks to make Ed sound smoother.
  • PortageandMainPortageandMain Posts: 5
    I think maybe he had a cold or something. This 'strain' your talking about shows up occassionally on web footage (Present Tense at the ED Sulivan theatre from 06) but you listen to the boots, esp Hartford 08 and his voice is amazing. On other recordings he does seem to back off a little on parts of State of Love and Trust and Breath for one reason or another but I sure don't think its because can't hit those notes.

    I admit to having caught on to Pearl Jam a little later later than most. Listening to 'Life Wasted' on the radio got me hooked. Frankly I kind of like that voice now more than during the Ten & VS era. Mellowed out but real powerful when called for. Long live that voice. I think the new CD is just going to rock, I can't wait.
  • crazygeocrazygeo Posts: 2,380
    thats why there should NOT be so many shows always!!! Back to back nights of long tours will kill this guys voice in the long run..its just reality people!

    Remember he, like us are getting older, 44 and counting eddie...i'm with ya buddy
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  • SpinTheBlackCircle74SpinTheBlackCircle74 Posts: 1,394
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Much More Than This wrote:
    Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
    You think it will be as strained and struggling on Backspacer as on S/T (and the live renditions of those songs) or will Eddie have returned to his former self? :)
    The question crossed my mind as well. It may be time for him to cut back from two-plus bottles of red to a meager 750 milliliters. Then again, maybe not.
    It may have more to do with cigarettes.

    From the Fixer clip, sounds like Obrien was using a few tricks to make Ed sound smoother.

    Hasn`t he quit smoking?
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  • Bulldog88Bulldog88 Posts: 380
    His voice was stunning in Hawaii this year...he really let loose. After hearing him there, I can honestly say his voice is as strong and beautiful as it's ever been :D
  • crazygeocrazygeo Posts: 2,380
    @ 44 we stop, then start, then stop...
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    backspacer and eddie voice will kick ass... ;)
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  • jecicajecica Posts: 954
    I want this topic to go away and I am a thread killer so this will disappear. Besides, who are we to criticize?

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  • crazygeocrazygeo Posts: 2,380
    reality there sweetheart
    44 will be 54 before you know it
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  • skyeriverwinterskyeriverwinter Posts: 1,894
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  • Ryan_WFCRyan_WFC Posts: 1,350
    Ed rules.
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  • tcaporaletcaporale Posts: 1,577
    I guess the strain on his voice doesn't bother me as much as it does others. I mean, the guy's human. He's getting older and he's been singing his whole life, it can't be easy to keep up the same level of singing ability throughout your entire life.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    Ryan_WFC wrote:
    Ed rules.
    theres your answer.. ;)
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  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    He should sound great on the album....his voice is fine for sitting in the studio and taking cuts one at a time.
    The thing that worries me is if they try to do a full tour around the album next year......

    Ed knows it better than any of us.......I am sure he is fully aware of his voice and will do whatever he thinks is necessary.

    Got some already has cleaner/better vocal delivery than anything on Self-Titled........Ed basically has to growl through all of the rockers on S/T and its very hard to do live
  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    No. I'm sure Brendan O'Brien demands perfection out of everyone and will not settle for anything less than perfect from Eddie.
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  • YieldedYielded Posts: 839
    That answer is: We will find out on September 21st.
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  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    Yielded wrote:
    That answer is: We will find out on September 21st.

    we should have a good indication Monday when the full version of The Fixer is released :D
  • eldarion75eldarion75 Posts: 2,488
    It's hard to explain, but he sounds kinda computery..it's 'cos theyve double tracked a lotta the vocals (John Lennon and Bowie used to get double tracked, it's sposed to fill out the vocal)
    But it sounds odd..we'll get used to it..it fits in context with the production.
  • wescaddle16wescaddle16 Posts: 106
    Why don't you all go "Strain" yourselfs... :D
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    cropduster82 wrote:
    No. I'm sure Brendan O'Brien demands perfection out of everyone and will not settle for anything less than perfect from Eddie.
    ;)
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    wescaddle16 wrote:
    Why don't you all go "Strain" yourselfs... :D
    :lol::lol::lol::lol:
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,867
    I don't think his voice was that big of a "problem" on the 06 tour, listening to the older songs he sounds great. I just listened to TREMOR CHRIST, ALONE and CROWN OF THORNS from the 06-tour and sounded great.

    But...

    ... the way he sings Life Wasted, WWS, Marker sounds so strained/forced and in my opinion bad. And it's the same on the album, so I'm guessing he want it to have a Raw/punkish sound but it doesn't work for me.

    The little snippet of The Fixer I heard it sounds sort of like the strained singing on S/T. I don't like it.
    I more like the way he sings the rock songs on Vitalogy. Poweful, angry, screaming but not strained/Winded etc.

    But I think Eddie handles the older songs great so it's the style for the new songs I don't like. It was the factor, for me, that made S/T grow old really fast, too fast.
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  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    Spiritual_Chaos wrote:
    But I think Eddie handles the older songs great so it's the style for the new songs I don't like. It was the factor, for me, that made S/T grow old really fast, too fast.

    Too bad for you. This isnt '94 anymore. Progress. His voice sounds fine, it's fucking rock and roll. Not an opera.
  • LloydChristmasLloydChristmas Posts: 224
    He sounded great in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago...of course on a more mellow set...which I prefer.
  • Much More Than ThisMuch More Than This Brooklyn, NY Posts: 765
    SpinTheBlackCircle74 wrote:
    Hasn`t he quit smoking?
    If he had quit, then he fell off the wagon when he lit up for "Story Time With Uncle Ed," at the first Tower Theatre show.
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  • Much More Than ThisMuch More Than This Brooklyn, NY Posts: 765
    SolarWorld wrote:
    Too bad for you. This isnt '94 anymore. Progress. His voice sounds fine, it's fucking rock and roll. Not an opera.
    Hear, hear. Ed's voice is well seasoned.
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,303
    I've posted this a few times and got a lot of flak for it.

    In the last 3-4 years, Ed has struggled quite a bit vocally w/ PJ.
    His solo shows seemed a little better, but those songs don't require a lot of range.

    I do think he still has the best voice in rock, but him getting winded, pulling off the mic live, and really struggling to hit "higher" notes, and not being able to hold/sustain a note is very evident.

    I think he should be able to do what he wants, but IMO the smoking has really done some damage.
    I hate using examples, but look at Chris Cornell. He too was sounding rough for a while, he stopped smoking and he now sounds as good as he did in '92.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    Much More Than This wrote:
    SolarWorld wrote:
    Too bad for you. This isnt '94 anymore. Progress. His voice sounds fine, it's fucking rock and roll. Not an opera.
    Hear, hear. Ed's voice is well seasoned.
    ;);)
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    LloydChristmas wrote:
    He sounded great in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago...of course on a more mellow set...which I prefer.
    this is an avatar NUMBER 1!!!!!!!!!! :D
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