Pearl Jam are doing it just like Grateful Dead did
patrickredeyes
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Meaning they are mixing it up VERY different every nite so far on this tour. Of course they never played the same setlist in the past. But it's just feels and looks different this time around. I'm loving the new Lost Dog songs and just how wild the setlists are. It's giving me something to smile about. 
All we need now is for PJ to bust out the ''Wall of Sound'' hehe
For the non deadheads this is what I mean.
http://www.dozin.com/wallofsound/index.html
All we need now is for PJ to bust out the ''Wall of Sound'' hehe
For the non deadheads this is what I mean.
http://www.dozin.com/wallofsound/index.html
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The Dead and PJ are polar opposites. PJ is repeating songs on a night after night basis while the Dead and other jam bands that follow the different set every night suit would have no repeats at all.
I wish to god they would embrace a no repeats at all policy on back to back nights but its not gonna happen.
The Dead would repeat songs on consecutive nights. Probably not to the extent that PJ does, but they would do it. To call this a horrible comparison is pretty ridiculous.
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/People/gdead/78.html
That being said, Pearl Jam is mixing it up this tour more because they aren't promoting a new album.
musically yes
but as far as the business model and the way PJ approaches their shows, there are a lot of similarities. The dedication of the fans is also very similar.
Not too many groups out there where the fans go to multiple shows on a tour, or follow the band.
IMO
Oh and the Dead had a larger amount of songs to choose from too I think.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
This tour is really awesome because it is for the fans, it seems...rather than plugging an album.
It seems they are playing what they want to. And what they think the fans want to hear.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
i know what you mean pat...ignore the negativity....some people just suck
Taking pills to get along
Creating walls to call your own
So no one catches you?
Drifting off and doing all the things...
That we... all... do
While I completely agree with you and would love to see those songs disappear, You will find instances where the Dead played St. Stephen or Good Lovin for example 3 or 4 shows in a row. Not quite like hearing Why Go every fucking night but still...
Um .... because some people like those songs?
for the least they could possibly do
St. Stephen is an odd example given that they played it three times total after 1979 and that was during October of 1983 ( I caught two of them ).
Taking pills to get along
Creating walls to call your own
So no one catches you?
Drifting off and doing all the things...
That we... all... do
Because there are a good number of people who are probably farmilliar with Pearl Jams early work and are not interested in hearing some rare B-Side. For better or worse, hardcore fans aren't the only people at a Pearl Jam concert.
Shit ... I AM a hardcore fan. I haven't heard Small Town live since 2003, and I've been to seven shows since then. I love how people act like that is played as often as Even Flow or something. It's not. In fact, it's only on this tour that Small Town is being played almost every night.
And I'm glad, because I want to hear it at my shows.
For that reason, I guess, I'm glad PJ are NOT like the Dead.
for the least they could possibly do
I've got no problem with hearing the 'hits' either. Didn't realise Small Town was kind of rare either, sorry.
As for the repeats, I don't think it's fair to expect no repeats from PJ. I say this for the following 3 reasons.
1. Their songs are a lot shorter than the Dead's, so they play A LOT more songs each night than the Dead ever did. I think this ups the challenge of no repeats dramatically.
2. They don't launch 3 tours + 20-30 home-state shows outside of the tour every year like the Dead did. The pressure to play big hits increases dramatically when you don't tour all that often.
3. Grateful Dead had 1 top ten hit in their entire career (touch of grey), and I would say that was definitely their most played song from 1987-1995. So I think if they had a lot of really big hits, you would have seen them play them more often
http://www.last.fm/user/merkinball/
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that is def the case. the dead played a few thousand songs over there 30 plus years of touring.
I think the fact that PJ has a larger catalog now has a lot to do with the varying setlists. that and the fact there not touring in support of an album just opens up a lot of tunes
I dont think the comparison to tGD is horrible but I wouldn't want it to seen like PJ isn't doing there own thing
ill tell ya though, if I was still in college this is the band id be touring with right now
Not so much
tog was played in rotation Mid 80s to early 90's
by no means there most played Song @ this time
And I think throwing stones or maybe hell in bucket may have cracked the top 10, but I could be very wrong about that
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For sure ... And someone said Why Go was played every night?! Um, look at the setlists before you comment.
I said it. And you need to look at the setlists before you comment. It has been played all 5 shows so far this tour and each of the last 7 shows that I have been to. So maybe you need to check your facts.
yeah, the whole "the dead played a different set every night" is a bit of magical illusion, brought on from folklore more than anything else. the new winterland box set (which is very bad-ass, btw), has 3-4 songs played all three nights, and a handful of others played two of the three. there were some tours where bertha was played just as often as evenflow or corduroy is played by PJ (as in, almost every show).
as for pj, i wish they'd mix it up more. they've got enough hits to play 3 or so a night to indulge the masses and use the rest of the time to indulge me! that being said, setlists this tour are totally killer.
I was at that '88 run too (that's the one I was thinking of). David Lindley, Los Lobos, and the Dead. Love the idea of a Pearl Jamboree, that's a great name for it! Now, how do we go about getting this underway?
http://www.last.fm/user/merkinball/
spotify:user:merkinball
damn...
mike is so punk rock