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the no b-side trend continues...

choopchoop Posts: 1,060
edited July 2009 in The Porch
so i notice that the bside to the fixer is got some.

i don't care about the small tours that fuck the south.
i don't care that a pair of tickets now used to be two pairs of tickets and a year of 10c membership in 03.
i don't mind that its about the same price to see ed ad to see the whole band.
i don't care that the site is terrible during on sales, that the singles are late, that deep comes sporadically.

what does peeve me tho, is that from riot act to avocado was three years and avocado to backspacer was 3 years, and all we're gonna get is 11 songs.

i'm fine with an 11 song album too, btw, so no complaints there.

i just wish the bsides would come back. i was expecting them to with the return of brendan o'brien for some reason.

i think maybe this is the result of the digital age. other bands like radiohead didn't put out bsides with their last album, but then again wilco did, so i don't know. maybe when a band expects the album to be all over the internet before its released, they don't see a need to give fans a hold over. deathcab for cutie, did however release an ep of leftovers, because they wanted them out there.

i remember falling in love with bsides, feeling like i was getting a bonus for buying a single of an album track.

i don't see why i should get a seven inch of two songs off an 11 song album. sure vinyl sounds better, but the album is being offered on vinly.

sorry if this was long winded, but i'd love to get a discussion going with people offering their insight why there is no bsides, or if other people maybe don't care.

so, what say you?


i'm not trying to sound like everyone else, but
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: The only proof he needed for the existence of God was music." KV Jr.
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  • PJ Fan est. 1990PJ Fan est. 1990 Posts: 1,788
    yeah i know what you are saying...all they have to do is throw in a track that just barely missed the cut of the album, hell even some trash tracks from the avo sessions...they need to build up their stash of tracks for Lost Dogs 2
  • lukin14lukin14 Posts: 287
    PJ Fan est. 1990 wrote:
    yeah i know what you are saying...all they have to do is throw in a track that just barely missed the cut of the album, hell even some trash tracks from the avo sessions...they need to build up their stash of tracks for Lost Dogs 2


    I think there's plenty to pick from for Lost Dogs 2 - but I like your thinking anyhow.
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    and how to do it right
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  • SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,396
    I think that maybe they'll just do a full b-side album every now and then, instead releasing b-sides on a single...then after a few years releasing them again on a compilation
    "Well, I think this band is incapable of sucking."
    -my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
  • JM55546JM55546 Posts: 134
    How do you know we aren't getting any b-sides?
  • SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,396
    JM55546 wrote:
    How do you know we aren't getting any b-sides?

    you can preorder The Fixer in the goods section...Got Some is listed as the b-side.

    so as of right now, no sign of them
    "Well, I think this band is incapable of sucking."
    -my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
  • PearlJamPatriotPearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    It would have been nice to get a track that didnt make it to the album. I always have loved Pearl Jam's outtakes.
    Pearl Jam Shows: 1998 - 9/11 New York, NY (MSG night 2); 9/13 Hartford, CT || 2000 - 8/24 Wantagh, NY (Jones Beach 2); 8/27 Saratoga Springs; 8/29 Mansfield, MA (night 1); 8/30 Mansfield, MA (night 2) || 2003 - 4/29 Albany, NY; 5/3 State College, PA; 7/2 Mansfield (night 1); 7/6 Camden, NJ (night 2); 7/8 New York, NY (MSG night 1) || 2004 - 9/28 Boston, MA (night 1); 9/29 Boston, MA (night 2) || 2005 - 10/3 Philadelphia, PA || 2006 - 5/12 Albany, NY; 5/13 Hartford, CT; 5/24 Boston, MA (night 1); 5/25 Boston, MA (night 2); 5/27 Camden, NJ (night 1); 5/28 Camden, NJ (night 2)|| 2008 - 6/19 Camden, NJ (night 1); 6/24 New York, NY (MSG night 1); 6/25 New York, NY (MSG night 2); 6/27 Hartford, CT; 6/28 Mansfield, MA (night 1); 6/30 Mansfield, MA (night 2); 7/1 New York, NY (Beacon Theater)|| 2009 - 9/21 Seattle, WA (night 1); 9/22 Seattle, WA (night 2); 10/27 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 1); 10/28 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 2); 10/30 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 3); 10/31 Philadelphia, PA (Spectrum night 4)|| 2010 - 5/15 Hartford, CT; 5/17 Boston, MA; 5/20 New York, NY (MSG night 1); 5/21 New York, NY (MSG night 2)|| 2011 - 9/3 East Troy, WI (PJ20); 9/4 East Troy, WI (PJ20) || 2012 - 9/2 Philadelphia, PA, 9/30 Missoula, MT || 2013 - 7/19 Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), 10/12 Buffalo, NY, 10/15 Worcester, MA (night 1), 10/16 Worcester, MA (night 2), 10/18 Brooklyn, NY (night 1), 10/19 Brooklyn, NY (night 2), 10/25 Hartford, CT || 2014 - 10/22 Denver, CO || 2015 -  9/26 New York, NY (Global Citizen Festival) || 2016 - 5/1 New York, NY (night 1), 5/2 New York, NY (night 2), 8/5 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 1), 8/7 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 2) || 2018 - 9/2 Boston, MA (Fenway Park night 1) || 2020 - 3/30 New York, NY
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  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    i know what you are getting at. And I understand. I think the band is far ahead, forward thinking, in many ways, and in other ways they seem sort of out of the loop.

    I think the need to release singles is not as great as it once was. I remember in the 90's how Sam Goody would have an entire section devoted to singles. Now I doubt any record store would have a section like that. I dont think people buy singles anymore. Just like I dont think people buy physical albums anymore. As I have said before. If you are a teen girl, saving up your allowance, and you want to go get a new cd, I dont think you run to the local cd store. I think you download it off kazaa, or your burn a copy that your friend already has, that undoubtedly they have burned. Teens arent hungry for singles. I think the new singles, are people buying one or two or three songs off their favorite artists new cd's on the iTunes store. People buy the one or two "singles" "radio friendly songs" and just move on.

    So I dont think the customer demand is there. And I think artists are alot smarter than record company CEO's. They know, no artist gets any decent profit from cd sales. Thats just a fact.

    WHich surprises me about the Pearl Jam Backspacer offering. Yes the Ten Club or store bought physical versions of the new cd will be alot more interesting and what not than downloading the music, but who really buys cd's anymore? I think Pearl jam should have gone the digital route this album, offered it digitally, and thrown in, maybe some extra songs or something.

    The debate over filesharing vs buying physical cd's always seems to get lost in the idea of right vs wrong, ethical or unethical, fair or unfair. Whats lost is the idea that reguardless of YOUR opinion on the issue, filesharing is the primary means most people obtain music, and is here to stay. I think you either adapt and grow with that knowledge as an artist, or you hang up the guitar and retire
  • StrykerStryker Upstate, NY Posts: 585
    Maybe Backspacer is the b-sides album. Just saying...
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